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Silver King said:
I'm talking the potential of available athletes for a private religious school in a city of that population (STA seems to draw ok), and with a younger average family age (meaning more working families with a much larger high school age population) that simply dwarfs the potential population of athletes to draw from that Venice, with its retiree population, has.

Miami is like most cities; the very best athletes flock (or are street brokered) to a small group of schools that have the best chance to win it all, and those stay pretty consistent. A lot of the other schools aren't anything special, and those stay pretty consistent too.
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Yeah, I can tell you've never been to Dade LOL.

STA is in Broward first of all, 2nd of all, the schools that you've probably heard about, MNW & Central, are literally in the same school zones, literally a 10 minute bus ride from each other.

If you didn't know just say you didn't know.
 
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CaneSince4Ever said:
Yeah, I can tell you've never been to Dade LOL.

STA is in Broward first of all, 2nd of all, the schools that you've probably heard about, MNW & Central, are literally in the same school zones, literally a 10 minute bus ride from each other.

If you didn't know just say you didn't know.
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No **** STA is in Broward?? Great eye there, Ace. You did see he was talking about a private catholic school not drawing didn't you, nobody other than you thought I was saying STA was in Dade? And Buddy isn't from Venice nor does he talk about **** he don't know or understand. Try reading in context and not guessing.
 
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BigWindyCane1 said:
I looked at the Census numbers for Florida and for South Florida, and it showed a big shift in under 18, working class and African Americans over the last ten years. I will be curious to see what happens over the next ten years. Miami-Dade has a lack of affordable housing and gentrification is rising. Not as many working class black students are in Miami today as there used to be just ten years ago. Palm beach and Broward are still ok, but you see Texas has a growing working class and African American population.

I love South Florida football and I hope demographics don‘t shrink our talent pool
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About ten years ago, Palm Beach started getting kids from Belle Glade (used to be a power house) when the Sugar industry lost jobs. You're right about shifting numbers and with the new growth spurt Florida is going through, it will continue.
 
Silver King said:
Congrats Venice Indians, 8A State Champs! They’re from Florida’s west coast, play in Florida’s largest classification, but draw from a retirement community town with a population of only 25,167.

Venice cruised through the payoffs, beating Columbus last week that draws from a population of 454,279 and Apopka in the championship game that draws from 51,800.

HS Football is alive and well in ALL of Florida.

Dade / Broward and the mega population centers aren't only what makes this the best and highest recruited football state. Florida is nowhere near the size of California or Texas, nor do we have close to the school populations they do, yet this STATE is considered the best. The best teams in college football understand that. Its why Miami needs to recruit the rest of the state better.
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I see what you tried to do here...
But Venice doesn't get their best kids from a "retirement community".
C'mon now.

I lived over there for 2 years. Venice has a monopoly on any piece of football talent from Sarasota on down.
 
Silver King said:
I'm talking the potential of available athletes for a private religious school in a city of that population (STA seems to draw ok), and with a younger average family age (meaning more working families with a much larger high school age population) that simply dwarfs the potential population of athletes to draw from that Venice, with its retiree population, has.

Miami is like most cities; the very best athletes flock (or are street brokered) to a small group of schools that have the best chance to win it all, and those stay pretty consistent. A lot of the other schools aren't anything special, and those stay pretty consistent too.
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Silver King said:
I'm talking the potential of available athletes for a private religious school in a city of that population (STA seems to draw ok), and with a younger average family age (meaning more working families with a much larger high school age population) that simply dwarfs the potential population of athletes to draw from that Venice, with its retiree population, has.

Miami is like most cities; the very best athletes flock (or are street brokered) to a small group of schools that have the best chance to win it all, and those stay pretty consistent. A lot of the other schools aren't anything special, and those stay pretty consistent too.
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STA seems to draw ok becausse there are decades of history at the school in ALL SPORTS. Plus there are actual girls at the school.
STA decimates the public schools in there area for the most part. We are just seeing a recent resurgence in Dillard and Stranahan is respectable now because of other factors.

There are multiple championship public schools or close to that quality that are drawing from what Columbus draws from. The fhsaa or whatever there called legitimately ***** around with the classifications every year because for the most part other than maybe 1a ball there might not be a state classification won by anything other than s.fla teams. ( I do like Venice by the way)

Based on your post i dont think you really know south florida ball like you think you do.
 
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BigWindyCane1 said:
I looked at the Census numbers for Florida and for South Florida, and it showed a big shift in under 18, working class and African Americans over the last ten years. I will be curious to see what happens over the next ten years. Miami-Dade has a lack of affordable housing and gentrification is rising. Not as many working class black students are in Miami today as there used to be just ten years ago. Palm beach and Broward are still ok, but you see Texas has a growing working class and African American population.

I love South Florida football and I hope demographics don‘t shrink our talent pool
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this was talked about a bit a few years ago here and its even more of an issue now that will adversely affect Miami for sure. Gentrification is a major issue and you are right about the impact. We better continue, through Mario now, to expand our recruiting base outside of south florida.
 
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The players from Central, Northwestern, Edison, Jackson, Booker T, Norland, Carol City, North Miami, etc., are all public schools in North Central Miami-Dade, and Killian, South Dade, Homestead, Palmetto and SOUTHRIDGE are public high schools in South Dade. Public high school football is different at each school, the overall brand of public high school football in Dade is unique in this entire country. It doesn’t happen like this in football anywhere else in the United States, and i hope recent demographic trends don't erode public school football because Friday night football games at Traz Is a truly unique cultural experience. And its different from Dade private schools like Columbus and Champangat, that have more in common with Broward private schools, IMHO.

STA, Cardinal Gibbons, Chaminade-Madonna and American Heritage are private schools in Broward, and they all recruit and are sought after, but Heritage has a high number of former NFL players whose kids attend there.

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How is the new tech boom, rising prices and gentrification going to affect Miami football?
 
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How is the new tech boom, rising prices and gentrification going to affect Miami football?
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IMHO, Rising home prices, lack of affordable housing and gentrification has impacted overall Miami-Dade demographics. Over the last 20 years, 2000-2020 census studies show that Miami-Dade increased from about 2.2 million to about 2.7 million. However, the under 18 population actually decreased during that time period 559,000 in 2000 to about 523,000 in 2020. Fewer kids overall are being born and raised in Miami-Dade. Only Deep South Dade has seen a growth in school aged children In the last ten years, but the rest of the county has steeply declined

Also, add on top of that the fact that just in the last 10 years, the black population in Miami-Dade decreased by about 9%. For those of us who live in Dade, we see it these trends all over. The liberty city, Gwen cherry, over town and Miami Gardens optimist program neighborhoods are being chipped away at. Hopefully, these neighborhoods will survive this wave and stay together
 
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Watched Chaminade w/ Davion Gause.
Kid is a special RB. Fingers crossed for UM
 
By the way, i will say that Mario understands this South Florida culture better than anyone. I have seen him attend games over the years by himself without an entourage. He enjoys it. I think he will know how to recruit it better than any coach we have had, but I also think he will recruit other parts of the state of Florida and even nationally. And he will recruit and develop the right guys
 
gogeta4 said:
Belle Glades is still Palm Beach County
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They moved to schools in Palm Beach, you guys added the 'county' discussion. Macho, think you were around when Venice got into that recruiting battle with Bradon River -- but SW and Suncoast are primarily retirement communities, one of the oldest per capita populations in the country.

Venice gets athletes to come because they compete for state titles, some of the area's best athletes go there for the same reason the best in Dade county (Ok you intensive reading experts; I used the word "county" now) leave to go to colleges that win.
 
I don't care how good the football program is, you would have had a hard time convincing the teenage version of myself to go to an all boys school like Columbus.
 
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