How does Richt and staff overcome South Florida complexity?

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Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all bad game-day coaches who couldn't motivate a stripper to get naked, among their other particularized failings. Kids don't want to play for bad coaches. But Golden was a particularly big fail. Look at 2013 and 2015 in particular: respectively, you had only five of 18 and eight of 22 signees from the Tri-County area. He'd get all these top recruits early on (at least partially as a hedge against getting fired) and then they'd commit elsewhere because of his ineptitude on Saturdays.

Don't lecture me about how bad al sucked, I remember vividly.

It's not personal, just calling it as I see it. You're not wrong with respect to this generation of kids not knowing firsthand how great we were in our prime, but the fact remains that we've been in decline and Golden poured gas on the fire.

Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

-FSU recruiting bump: Jimbo took over a program coached by a legendary coach, who won two national titles. Even though that last National Title came in 1999, FSU was still winning the mediocre ACC Atlantic (at that time) and was limping into BCS bowl games. Jimbo could also flash a National Title Ring from his days at LSU. Plain and simple, Jimbo took over a team that was still deemed relevant in many arenas, even winning a bowl game w/ a weak 7-6 record before he took the helm.
compare
-Miami: Richt is taking over a program that just got off of full restrictions and have been in the dumps for 13 years. He's also coming behind two horrid coaches. One coach who refused to recruit ALL So Fla, and the other coach who not only did a poor job in recruiting So Fla, in general, but had us 0-5 against our arch rival and had us blown the F out of the water on national TV. Furthermore, what has Richt truly accomplished? Sure he's won 70% of this games, but he's only been to 3 bowl games of significance in his 15 year career and has no hardware to show.

Richt also has his work cut out for him. At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...all who are either winning their division or in the playoffs. So, yes, building relationship w/ coaches is great, but So. Fla recruits are all about what have you done for me lately.

We're going to lose the pay-off battle, so the only counter action would be winning on the field, and often. I had some reservations about Richt; w/ the crap he's inherited, you need a strong personality, eye for talent, and that mouth piece to turn it around. That's why I wanted Herman or Butch. The whole soft spoken, Christian-man theme, may not cut it here. I think our class winds up being solid, but not elite. I predicted this anyway, b/c we kept Golden one year too late. Unless we had hired a proven coach w/ hardware, it was going to be an uphill battle with both the 16 and 17 classes. However, he has a real shot for the 18 class, but only if the on-the-field product matches our talent. If it doesn't, if we don't win AT LEAST the Coastal next year, look for class of 18 to be shoddy as well.

Can't fault any of that, I'm just in a bad ******* mood. Stupid crootin.
 
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Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all bad game-day coaches who couldn't motivate a stripper to get naked, among their other particularized failings. Kids don't want to play for bad coaches. But Golden was a particularly big fail. Look at 2013 and 2015 in particular: respectively, you had only five of 18 and eight of 22 signees from the Tri-County area. He'd get all these top recruits early on (at least partially as a hedge against getting fired) and then they'd commit elsewhere because of his ineptitude on Saturdays.

Don't lecture me about how bad al sucked, I remember vividly.

It's not personal, just calling it as I see it. You're not wrong with respect to this generation of kids not knowing firsthand how great we were in our prime, but the fact remains that we've been in decline and Golden poured gas on the fire.

Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...

He still had to recruit against all of those schools plus the rest of the SEC bagmen for Georgia recruits.... he had plenty of competition while at UGA...
 
Don't lecture me about how bad al sucked, I remember vividly.

It's not personal, just calling it as I see it. You're not wrong with respect to this generation of kids not knowing firsthand how great we were in our prime, but the fact remains that we've been in decline and Golden poured gas on the fire.

Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

-FSU recruiting bump: Jimbo took over a program coached by a legendary coach, who won two national titles. Even though that last National Title came in 1999, FSU was still winning the mediocre ACC Atlantic (at that time) and was limping into BCS bowl games. Jimbo could also flash a National Title Ring from his days at LSU. Plain and simple, Jimbo took over a team that was still deemed relevant in many arenas, even winning a bowl game w/ a weak 7-6 record before he took the helm.
compare
-Miami: Richt is taking over a program that just got off of full restrictions and have been in the dumps for 13 years. He's also coming behind two horrid coaches. One coach who refused to recruit ALL So Fla, and the other coach who not only did a poor job in recruiting So Fla, in general, but had us 0-5 against our arch rival and had us blown the F out of the water on national TV. Furthermore, what has Richt truly accomplished? Sure he's won 70% of this games, but he's only been to 3 bowl games of significance in his 15 year career and has no hardware to show.

Richt also has his work cut out for him. At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...all who are either winning their division or in the playoffs. So, yes, building relationship w/ coaches is great, but So. Fla recruits are all about what have you done for me lately.

We're going to lose the pay-off battle, so the only counter action would be winning on the field, and often. I had some reservations about Richt; w/ the crap he's inherited, you need a strong personality, eye for talent, and that mouth piece to turn it around. That's why I wanted Herman or Butch. The whole soft spoken, Christian-man theme, may not cut it here. I think our class winds up being solid, but not elite. I predicted this anyway, b/c we kept Golden one year too late. Unless we had hired a proven coach w/ hardware, it was going to be an uphill battle with both the 16 and 17 classes. However, he has a real shot for the 18 class, but only if the on-the-field product matches our talent. If it doesn't, if we don't win AT LEAST the Coastal next year, look for class of 18 to be shoddy as well.

Can't fault any of that, I'm just in a bad ****ing mood. Stupid crootin.

Bro...you and me both. Your avatar is my avatar at work. It's a friendly reminder of how our Canes used to be. Those are the Canes I miss. I'm tired of reliving past glory, both on and off the field. I'm tired of looking at old YouTube clips to get my Cane fix in. Ish is depressing, my guy.
 
It's not personal, just calling it as I see it. You're not wrong with respect to this generation of kids not knowing firsthand how great we were in our prime, but the fact remains that we've been in decline and Golden poured gas on the fire.

Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

-FSU recruiting bump: Jimbo took over a program coached by a legendary coach, who won two national titles. Even though that last National Title came in 1999, FSU was still winning the mediocre ACC Atlantic (at that time) and was limping into BCS bowl games. Jimbo could also flash a National Title Ring from his days at LSU. Plain and simple, Jimbo took over a team that was still deemed relevant in many arenas, even winning a bowl game w/ a weak 7-6 record before he took the helm.
compare
-Miami: Richt is taking over a program that just got off of full restrictions and have been in the dumps for 13 years. He's also coming behind two horrid coaches. One coach who refused to recruit ALL So Fla, and the other coach who not only did a poor job in recruiting So Fla, in general, but had us 0-5 against our arch rival and had us blown the F out of the water on national TV. Furthermore, what has Richt truly accomplished? Sure he's won 70% of this games, but he's only been to 3 bowl games of significance in his 15 year career and has no hardware to show.

Richt also has his work cut out for him. At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...all who are either winning their division or in the playoffs. So, yes, building relationship w/ coaches is great, but So. Fla recruits are all about what have you done for me lately.

We're going to lose the pay-off battle, so the only counter action would be winning on the field, and often. I had some reservations about Richt; w/ the crap he's inherited, you need a strong personality, eye for talent, and that mouth piece to turn it around. That's why I wanted Herman or Butch. The whole soft spoken, Christian-man theme, may not cut it here. I think our class winds up being solid, but not elite. I predicted this anyway, b/c we kept Golden one year too late. Unless we had hired a proven coach w/ hardware, it was going to be an uphill battle with both the 16 and 17 classes. However, he has a real shot for the 18 class, but only if the on-the-field product matches our talent. If it doesn't, if we don't win AT LEAST the Coastal next year, look for class of 18 to be shoddy as well.

Can't fault any of that, I'm just in a bad ****ing mood. Stupid crootin.

Bro...you and me both. Your avatar is my avatar at work. It's a friendly reminder of how our Canes used to be. Those are the Canes I miss. I'm tired of reliving past glory, both on and off the field. I'm tired of looking at old YouTube clips to get my Cane fix in. Ish is depressing, my guy.

God help me, I watch 2001 game DURING THE SEASON. Where are we as a program when I'm rewatching a game from 15 years ago instead of last week?
 
Don't lecture me about how bad al sucked, I remember vividly.

It's not personal, just calling it as I see it. You're not wrong with respect to this generation of kids not knowing firsthand how great we were in our prime, but the fact remains that we've been in decline and Golden poured gas on the fire.

Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...

He still had to recruit against all of those schools plus the rest of the SEC bagmen for Georgia recruits.... he had plenty of competition while at UGA...

No comparison, bro...and you know that. So Fla recruiting vs. GA is recruiting is night and day. There is no type of recruiting like So. Fla recruiting. GA kids are loyal to UGA, UGA is their football team. Same down in So. Cal, So. Cal kids are loyal to USC....USC is So. Cal's team. Ain't no So. Fla kid loyal to us. We may not even be So. Fla team, low key. You got parents auctioning their kids to the highest bidder, w/ no F's given about seeing them play whenever they want to. We just heard a kid say his heart was w/ Bama....BAMA! Kirby Smart is going to clean up on GA prospects as well b/c he won't have any competition for them, AND HE'S A HORRIBLE COACH.
 
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Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

-FSU recruiting bump: Jimbo took over a program coached by a legendary coach, who won two national titles. Even though that last National Title came in 1999, FSU was still winning the mediocre ACC Atlantic (at that time) and was limping into BCS bowl games. Jimbo could also flash a National Title Ring from his days at LSU. Plain and simple, Jimbo took over a team that was still deemed relevant in many arenas, even winning a bowl game w/ a weak 7-6 record before he took the helm.
compare
-Miami: Richt is taking over a program that just got off of full restrictions and have been in the dumps for 13 years. He's also coming behind two horrid coaches. One coach who refused to recruit ALL So Fla, and the other coach who not only did a poor job in recruiting So Fla, in general, but had us 0-5 against our arch rival and had us blown the F out of the water on national TV. Furthermore, what has Richt truly accomplished? Sure he's won 70% of this games, but he's only been to 3 bowl games of significance in his 15 year career and has no hardware to show.

Richt also has his work cut out for him. At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...all who are either winning their division or in the playoffs. So, yes, building relationship w/ coaches is great, but So. Fla recruits are all about what have you done for me lately.

We're going to lose the pay-off battle, so the only counter action would be winning on the field, and often. I had some reservations about Richt; w/ the crap he's inherited, you need a strong personality, eye for talent, and that mouth piece to turn it around. That's why I wanted Herman or Butch. The whole soft spoken, Christian-man theme, may not cut it here. I think our class winds up being solid, but not elite. I predicted this anyway, b/c we kept Golden one year too late. Unless we had hired a proven coach w/ hardware, it was going to be an uphill battle with both the 16 and 17 classes. However, he has a real shot for the 18 class, but only if the on-the-field product matches our talent. If it doesn't, if we don't win AT LEAST the Coastal next year, look for class of 18 to be shoddy as well.

Can't fault any of that, I'm just in a bad ****ing mood. Stupid crootin.

Bro...you and me both. Your avatar is my avatar at work. It's a friendly reminder of how our Canes used to be. Those are the Canes I miss. I'm tired of reliving past glory, both on and off the field. I'm tired of looking at old YouTube clips to get my Cane fix in. Ish is depressing, my guy.

God help me, I watch 2001 game DURING THE SEASON. Where are we as a program when I'm rewatching a game from 15 years ago instead of last week?

(((sigh))) True. ****, I even get on the NCAA 14 to have some sort of semblance of the past. UGH!
 
THE PROBLEM WITH KIDS IN MIAMI IS THE PARENTS ARE OPEN MINDED "I'LL SUPPORT MY SON NO MATTER WHERE HE GOES" Y'ALL AIN'T RAISING THEM KIDS RIGHT MY SON CAN TAKE ALL THE VISITS HE WANTS BUT HE'S ONLY GOT ONE CHOICE WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE HE'S GONNA PLAY FOOTBALL IF HE HAS A MIAMI OFFER HE'S GOING TO MIAMI.


IT'S EITHER THAT OR AS A FATHER I'M DISOWNING YOU I DO NOT LOVE YOU ANYMORE I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THAT YOU BETRAYED ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THIS FAMILY BELIEVES IN.


NO SCHOLLY TO MIAMI THEM WE GO TO BEST POSSIBLE SITUATION.
 
The same way Butch did.

Find 25 great players every year regardless of where they come from.

The Gators and Noles did just fine in recruiting against Butch on a yearly basis if you recall.
 
You don't need Jerry Jeudy and Ahmon Richards to win.

You need a dominant OL, a great QB, two studs RB's and Ahmon Richards paired with a guy like Mike Harley and Dionte Mullins to win.

You must get Navaugn Donaldson and Anthony McFarland to have a shot.

Jerry Jeudy would be a nice luxury but not a necessity to win the ACC and get into the dance.

Get it?
 
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It's not personal, just calling it as I see it. You're not wrong with respect to this generation of kids not knowing firsthand how great we were in our prime, but the fact remains that we've been in decline and Golden poured gas on the fire.

Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...

He still had to recruit against all of those schools plus the rest of the SEC bagmen for Georgia recruits.... he had plenty of competition while at UGA...

No comparison, bro...and you know that. So Fla recruiting vs. GA is recruiting is night and day. There is no type of recruiting like So. Fla recruiting. GA kids are loyal to UGA, UGA is their football team. Same down in So. Cal, So. Cal kids are loyal to USC....USC is So. Cal's team. Ain't no So. Fla kid loyal to us. We may not even be So. Fla team, low key. You got parents auctioning their kids to the highest bidder, w/ no F's given about seeing them play whenever they want to. We just heard a kid say his heart was w/ Bama....BAMA! Kirby Smart is going to clean up on GA prospects as well b/c he won't have any competition for them, AND HE'S A HORRIBLE COACH.

Nah man...the top players weren't loyal to Georgia under Richt. His last 5 full recruiting classes based on 247's top-10 players in Georgia:

2011:
5- UGA
1- Bama
2- Auburn
0- Other SEC schools

2012:
3- UGA
3- Bama
2- Auburn
1- Other SEC schools

2013:
2- UGA
2- Bama
2- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools

2014-
3- UGA
0- Bama
2- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools

2015:
3- UGA
1- Bama
0- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools


Totals:

16- UGA
7- Bama
8- Auburn
10- Other SEC schools

Clearly the numbers doesn't indicate a loyalty to Georgia. 16 out of 50 went to UGA but 34 went elsewhere...
 
Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...

He still had to recruit against all of those schools plus the rest of the SEC bagmen for Georgia recruits.... he had plenty of competition while at UGA...

No comparison, bro...and you know that. So Fla recruiting vs. GA is recruiting is night and day. There is no type of recruiting like So. Fla recruiting. GA kids are loyal to UGA, UGA is their football team. Same down in So. Cal, So. Cal kids are loyal to USC....USC is So. Cal's team. Ain't no So. Fla kid loyal to us. We may not even be So. Fla team, low key. You got parents auctioning their kids to the highest bidder, w/ no F's given about seeing them play whenever they want to. We just heard a kid say his heart was w/ Bama....BAMA! Kirby Smart is going to clean up on GA prospects as well b/c he won't have any competition for them, AND HE'S A HORRIBLE COACH.

Nah man...the top players weren't loyal to Georgia under Richt. His last 5 full recruiting classes based on 247's top-10 players in Georgia:

2011:
5- UGA
1- Bama
2- Auburn
0- Other SEC schools

2012:
3- UGA
3- Bama
2- Auburn
1- Other SEC schools

2013:
2- UGA
2- Bama
2- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools

2014-
3- UGA
0- Bama
2- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools

2015:
3- UGA
1- Bama
0- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools


Totals:

16- UGA
7- Bama
8- Auburn
10- Other SEC schools

Clearly the numbers doesn't indicate a loyalty to Georgia. 16 out of 50 went to UGA but 34 went elsewhere...

IDK man, that looks pretty good to me. "Only" 50%, but what does Miami pull? I realize we've got in-state competition, but still. Plus 2x as many as bama...which you want to say is expected, but again, bama has been coming down here and whipping us on the regular. And bama is closerto GA than SFLA.
 
Can't argue that al wasn't a huge contribute to where we are today, I just think people are over doing it. It's easy to blame al for everything, but it looks more and more like money is the issue from where I'm standing. We don't seem to be getting the crazy recruiting bump that say fsu got when they switched coaches. All the feedback from HS coaches and players is possitive, I think people really like and respect Richt and the staff and we all see the work they're putting in. But we don't seem to be flipping the kind of kids al couldn't touch or getting interest from the top 100 of so recruits, and I have to wonder why. I'm not saying our class won't be pretty good, and god knows we can cruise the coastal and compete for the ACC on what we've got, but at some point we have to start getting more 4* and some of the 5* kids if we want another NC. And I wonder if that can be done without a serious bag game.

I need to put things in perspective [MENTION=6001]kryptonite[/MENTION]...you're my guy, but I want you to follow your boy really quick:

At UGA, there was no competition to recruit top talent from the GA, so do we "really" know how good of a recruiter he is? Now, he has to recruit against FSU, UF, OSU, Clemson, and Bama...

He still had to recruit against all of those schools plus the rest of the SEC bagmen for Georgia recruits.... he had plenty of competition while at UGA...

No comparison, bro...and you know that. So Fla recruiting vs. GA is recruiting is night and day. There is no type of recruiting like So. Fla recruiting. GA kids are loyal to UGA, UGA is their football team. Same down in So. Cal, So. Cal kids are loyal to USC....USC is So. Cal's team. Ain't no So. Fla kid loyal to us. We may not even be So. Fla team, low key. You got parents auctioning their kids to the highest bidder, w/ no F's given about seeing them play whenever they want to. We just heard a kid say his heart was w/ Bama....BAMA! Kirby Smart is going to clean up on GA prospects as well b/c he won't have any competition for them, AND HE'S A HORRIBLE COACH.

Nah man...the top players weren't loyal to Georgia under Richt. His last 5 full recruiting classes based on 247's top-10 players in Georgia:

2011:
5- UGA
1- Bama
2- Auburn
0- Other SEC schools

2012:
3- UGA
3- Bama
2- Auburn
1- Other SEC schools

2013:
2- UGA
2- Bama
2- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools

2014-
3- UGA
0- Bama
2- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools

2015:
3- UGA
1- Bama
0- Auburn
3- Other SEC schools


Totals:

16- UGA
7- Bama
8- Auburn
10- Other SEC schools

Clearly the numbers doesn't indicate a loyalty to Georgia. 16 out of 50 went to UGA but 34 went elsewhere...

Bro, if we landed 3-4 top 10 So Fla recruit each year, we would fly high brody! Lol. Give me that each year.
 
When it comes to recruiting?

I understand winning helps a lot, but I am not convinced that is all that is needed. I look at Jimbos first couple of years of losing 4 games meanwhile racking in top 10 ten classes. Kiffin get fired and Sark is able to pull together a #1 rated class, then Helton as a interim pulls in a top #1 5 class with only 20 commits.

Asking the experts (@PeterAriz [MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION] [MENTION=6088]Tweed[/MENTION]), what does Richt need to do to hold down local kids?

Hold on guys....I've got this one...

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Win games.

Not too ****** hard to figure out.

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