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Mklein13 said:
How was he a 5 star as a JR?
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Don’t think he was. But he was hyped. Rankings of underclassmen are unreliable. Fonal rankings tend to be accurate in part because they reflect the crucible of actual recruiting decisions by top teams. When a kid emds up at Alabama, his final ranking will tend to reflect that. It isn’t perfect - Miami recruits got overrated for a while because people thought Coker could evaluate. But on average, top teams tend to be better at evaluations than recruiting services are, which is why the recruiting services rely on who is recruiting a kid as a measure of quality of kid.
 
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Ethnicsands said:
Don’t think he was. But he was hyped. Rankings of underclassmen are unreliable. Fonal rankings tend to be accurate in part because they reflect the crucible of actual recruiting decisions by top teams. When a kid emds up at Alabama, his final ranking will tend to reflect that. It isn’t perfect - Miami recruits got overrated for a while because people thought Coker could evaluate. But on average, top teams tend to be better at evaluations than recruiting services are.
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I thought he was like a top 20 guy as a junior so idk if that puts him into 5 star range but either way to go from a top guy to no one wanting you is crazy.
 
Mklein13 said:
I thought he was like a top 20 guy as a junior so idk if that puts him into 5 star range but either way to go from a top guy to no one wanting you is crazy.
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Top 20 in Florida, maybe. Top 20 nationally is 5* but don’t think that was him. I might remember wrong, however.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Ok.

You weren't super strong in math were you?

Yes, yes, yes. Your next post will claim you have have a behind the keyboard PhD from MIT in Applied Mathematics and of course your Differential Equations work has been published in several prestigious journals. Just last week, you consulted with Chairman Powell as to where the Fed is taking the US via monetary policy.

We get it, you are a big brain.

Um, wait. I've woken up now from my tequila fueled bender from last night, and have now returned to reality.

Here are facts (IF one considers ranking services as "facts")
- Last 5 years (more important than years 6-10 ago, Miami 2/5 classes were in top 30, 1/5 top 40
- 6-10 years ago, 4/5 classes were top 20 and 1/5 was top 40

Thats a significant reversal when you compare/contrast the two cohorts, and not in a good way.

As I stated previously, Miami is trending that Top 30/40 classes will be the norm AS THEY HAVE ALREADY BASICALLY BEEN last 5 years.

Can Manolo stop this trend? He can, but it will be very hard. If he fails, then MATH indicates continued Top 30/40 classes.

But of course, you knew this.
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I disagree on the trend showing 30/40 classes.
This class will be in the trend. 2020 cannot be in that trend. 2021 we have a **** of a schedule. Cannot afford two years of 30/40 classes.
 
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canecat said:
I feel confident Diaz will close well but that will just save us from ending outside the top 40 like we now . We will end up between 20-30 which given what Richt left him with will be a miracle . But once kids see us succeeding they will flock back and it doesn't need to be winning 12-13 games it just can't be losing 3-5 in a row .
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It could be worse...when Shannon’s left we were down to only 2 recruits in the 2011 class. Just 2.
 
We should bring in mass guys in a sense because we need quantity and Darwin should take over with good coaching. Winning will help recruiting but consistent coastal chips ... consistent battles with wins against clemson.. and consistent big six games will help with recruiting. That's the first steps. 10 wins + bowl win Gotta be one of the goals...
 
jw410 said:
I disagree on the trend showing 30/40 classes.
This class will be in the trend. 2020 cannot be in that trend. 2021 we have a **** of a schedule. Cannot afford two years of 30/40 classes.
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Well, since you say 2020 cannot be in the trend, I'm sure Miami will just magically sign 30 5* athletes.

Why couldn't you say for 2019? Are you the one who wrecked how it turned out?
 
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Empirical Cane said:
What you meant to say (as of today)

2015 - 27
2016 - 22
2017 - 12
2018 - 8
2019 - 33

Fixed it for you.
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Well, this recruiting cycle is not over. I focused on what UM has done over the past 5 years and what primarily is on the roster today. We have plenty of talent to win. Coaching has to be much better.
 
Mklein13 said:
How was he a 5 star as a JR?
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I guess he put up ridiculous stats as a freshman and sophomore but I wouldn't be surprised if we tried to snag him now simply for depth at safety and special teams. If the new strength coach Feeley feels confident he can get him into game shape in a year then I'd take a flier on him
 
561Cane said:
Well, this recruiting cycle is not over...Coaching has to be much better.
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Correct. A concern is class overall quality and quantity actually worsens before final 2019 grade is given.

That might not actually be a terrible thing however, as it is better to take the right fits rather than JAGs that occupy slots that could be used for future larger classes.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
Ok.

You weren't super strong in math were you?

Yes, yes, yes. Your next post will claim you have have a behind the keyboard PhD from MIT in Applied Mathematics and of course your Differential Equations work has been published in several prestigious journals. Just last week, you consulted with Chairman Powell as to where the Fed is taking the US via monetary policy.

We get it, you are a big brain.

Um, wait. I've woken up now from my tequila fueled bender from last night, and have now returned to reality.

Here are facts (IF one considers ranking services as "facts")
- Last 5 years (more important than years 6-10 ago, Miami 2/5 classes were in top 30, 1/5 top 40
- 6-10 years ago, 4/5 classes were top 20 and 1/5 was top 40

Thats a significant reversal when you compare/contrast the two cohorts, and not in a good way.

As I stated previously, Miami is trending that Top 30/40 classes will be the norm AS THEY HAVE ALREADY BASICALLY BEEN last 5 years.

Can Manolo stop this trend? He can, but it will be very hard. If he fails, then MATH indicates continued Top 30/40 classes.

But of course, you knew this.
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Really moron! How has are last to 5 classes been only top 30? Jesus you sound like such an idiot. 2018 class #8, 2017 #12, 2016 transition class #22, 2015 Al golden dead man walking #27, 2014 #12 and so on and so on continued top 15 rankings. Not top 30 or 40. Jesus even fools/bums like randy and golden can pull top ten classes here. I dropped a link to 247 below so you can now see the facts of consistent top 15 classes instead of Your asinine top 30/40 predictions. Smh
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/
 
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How we finish is an absolute mystery.

Anyone that is on the board and uncommitted, outside of OC Brothers is not coming to Miami at time of this post. Maybe if Miami can hire Seider away from Penn State they can land Mark Antony Richards. MAYBE. With that said, anyone that commits here in February isn't on our radar right now.
 
Every year the FIU's and FAU's of the world find some guy who could play for us or at least provide depth for us. These guys are generally 2-3 star guys who went unnoticed. Its embarrassing to be the U and to have to flip players from smaller schools but sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Worse case we sign 1 or 2 more offensive players this class and hit the reset button for next year with a new recruiting strategy.
 
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NicKane said:
Really moron! How has are last to 5 classes been only top 30? Jesus you sound like such an idiot. 2018 class #8, 2017 #12, 2016 transition class #22, 2015 Al golden dead man walking #27, 2014 #12 and so on and so on continued top 15 rankings. Not top 30 or 40. Jesus even fools/bumbs like randy and golden cant pull top ten classes here. I dropped a link to 247 below so you can now see the facts of consistent top 15 classes instead of Your asinine top 30/40 predictions. Smh
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/
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Reading doesn't appear to be a strong suit of yours either.

The link you sent reinforces the points I made.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Reading doesn't appear to be a strong suit of yours either.

The link you sent reinforces the points I made.
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It sure doesn’t because I don’t see any top 40s in there. As a matter of fact I only see a top 25 and 30 and the rest are top 15 and 10s going back to Randy when the downfall really started. So basically we can be **** for ten plus years and still fall *** backwards into top 15 classes. Can you imagine how good of a class we could get if we actually won the crappy Coastal? Oh wait we did last year and we got a number 8 class on 247 and number 6 on rivals. Your full of it bud, so take your top 40 BS and kick rocks! Nobody is buying it here.
 
NicKane said:
It sure doesn’t because I don’t see any top 40s in there. As a matter of fact I only see a top 25 and 30 and the rest are top 15 and 10s going back to Randy when the downfall really started. So basically we can be **** for ten plus years and still fall *** backwards into top 15 classes. Can you imagine how good of a class we could get if we actually won the crappy Coastal? Oh wait we did last year and we got a number 8 class on 247 and number 6 on rivals. Your full of it bud, so take your top 40 BS and kick rocks! Nobody is buying it here.
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For 2019, the current rank is 33 correct?

That would be a top 40 rank sparky.
 
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