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Has College Football Ever Seen a Better Offense?

DTP said:
Cam is Better.

Put Cam on that team and put Burrow on this one and it’s not even close. Burrow had the luxury of just being able to throw it up for grabs and his receivers would just come down with it. Cam doesn’t have that option. He has to buy time to get a receiver open and then throw accurately while scrambling. We rely on Cam to make so many plays. LSU relied on their wide receivers to make plays. Their quarterback just had to put the ball near them.
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Burrow is just as capable of buying time with his feet. Him not having to do it as much doesn’t take away the skill. Joe just processes better than 99% of QBs.
 

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DTP said:
Cam is Better.

Put Cam on that team and put Burrow on this one and it’s not even close. Burrow had the luxury of just being able to throw it up for grabs and his receivers would just come down with it. Cam doesn’t have that option. He has to buy time to get a receiver open and then throw accurately while scrambling. We rely on Cam to make so many plays. LSU relied on their wide receivers to make plays. Their quarterback just had to put the ball near them.
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and it begins.. lol
 
DTP said:
That’s why coaching matters. Eventually someone is going to match your talent. The coach who has the best game plan will win. The old days of one team hoarding all the best players are over. The best teams this year all have flaws. The portal and NIL have made it a lot more interesting.
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But things get taken away if the team we are playing has certain chess pieces to play with. When you see an OC get conservative its for a reason. Same with Tyler we had to call different plays based on his abilities. So its not coaches going into a shell, if someone is creating pressure with 4 we have to get the ball out quick for example. So gameplans change because of the talent, they dont forget how to coach its just being smart. Last year they did an amazing job of winning close games by trying to take it out of Tylers hands. They were terrified to open the playbook with him and I agreed 100%. The staff knows how to coach besides the BS knee and no fumble call, but it is what it is.

OSU (wrs are elite) Oregon (offense for days) Tenn (elite four man rush and elite passer) UGA (elite defense that will wake up in the playoffs) are bad matchups for us IMO, can we win them? Possibly but unlikely. But if things change play call wise its because of matchups we saw on film that we do not trust we can win and I trust this staff that they know wtf they are doing. Our DL has to play better too and create pressure, no one is talking about our DL but they need to be better at getting to the QB.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
Burrow is just as capable of buying time with his feet. Him not having to do it as much doesn’t take away the skill. Joe just processes better than 99% of QBs.
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Ok. My comment was 10% about buying time with feet and 90% about Burrow having the all time greatest receiver room in history. Can can’t just throw it up for grabs like Joe was able to do every game
 
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LSU's WRs were just more aggressive. They snatched everything around them and rarely had drops.
Their little RB was very hard to stop too, especially in space and when he went out wide.

That said, this team can get better and play more consistently. Also, we have not seen all of our players utilized to the best of their abilities yet. Lofton can be such a weapon for us in future games.
Also formations with two tailbacks will be difficult to cover. (Look at Restrepo's record breaking TD when both 6 and 4 were back there.)
 
Dwinstitles said:
But things get taken away if the team we are playing has certain chess pieces to play with. When you see an OC get conservative its for a reason. Same with Tyler we had to call different plays based on his abilities. So its not coaches going into a shell, if someone is creating pressure with 4 we have to get the ball out quick for example. So gameplans change because of the talent, they dont forget how to coach its just being smart. Last year they did an amazing job of winning close games by trying to take it out of Tylers hands. They were terrified to open the playbook with him and I agreed 100%. The staff knows how to coach besides the BS knee and no fumble call, but it is what it is.

OSU (wrs are elite) Oregon (offense for days) Tenn (elite four man rush and elite passer) UGA (elite defense that will wake up in the playoffs) are bad matchups for us IMO, can we win them? Possibly but unlikely. But if things change play call wise it’s because of matchups we saw on film that we do not trust we can win and I trust this staff that they know wtf they are doing. Our DL has to play better too and create pressure, no one is talking about our DL but they need to be better at getting to the QB.
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Taking the ball out of TVD’s hands and just hoping our defense shut out the opponent isn’t good coaching. Good coaching would have found the problem and corrected it. Our coaching just went into a shell and hoped 17 points would be enough to win. If Miami is going to win a championship, coaches are going to have to make adjustments and find ways to best scheme for the players we have. The defensive staff is going to have to come up with something better than “well I hope the offense scores 50 because we’re going to give up 45”.
 
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DTP said:
Taking the ball out of TVD’s hands and just hoping our defense shut out the opponent isn’t good coaching. Good coaching would have found the problem and corrected it. Our coaching just went into a shell and hoped 17 points would be enough to win. If Miami is going to win a championship, coaches are going to have to make adjustments and find ways to best scheme for the players we have. The defensive staff is going to have to come up with something better than “well I hope the offense scores 50 because we’re going to give up 45”.
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They did, in the off season they got Ward
 
Dwinstitles said:
They did, in the off season they got Ward
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If you wait until after the games are over to make a change, you’ve already lost. Cam won’t be here next year. We can’t just pick up new players mid season. Coaches are going to have do something now if they want to win in the playoffs.
 
DTP said:
Ok. My comment was 10% about buying time with feet and 90% about Burrow having the all time greatest receiver room in history. Can can’t just throw it up for grabs like Joe was able to do every game
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Joe is one of the most accurate QBs I’ve ever seen. Calling what he did that year just throwing it up for grabs is disingenuous. Obviously he had a massive advantage in the WR room
 
Dwinstitles said:
When someone does stop us come playoff time because of talent I can already hear the “Dawson isn’t calling a good game” crowd complaining. Because when you face equal talent it won’t be that easy anymore. But someone will point the finger at him I bet 100%. We will get stopped eventually or slowed down for sure
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Agreed

Look Fletcher/Martinez are nice backs but imagine an elite RB like Dalvin Cook in this offense?

Restrepo is a great college WR and will have a nice NFL career but imagine having a guy like Harrison Jr

LSU 2019 offense is elite, NFL starters all over the field

However TrumpyCane is just happy what we have now, especially after 2022. Mario just has to keep stacking offensive talent
 
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DTP said:
If you wait until after the games are over to make a change, you’ve already lost. Cam won’t be here next year. We can’t just pick up new players mid season. Coaches are going to have do something now if they want to win in the playoffs.
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Sometimes teams are just better. Nebraska could of had Nick Saban they weren’t going to do anything schematically to beat the 01 team
 
407cane said:
there's several reasons why it'll be hard for us to match 2019 lsu

1) we are more dedicated to the run

2) the running clock changes (clock continues to run after first downs and out of bounds when not inside 2 minutes of half / end of game) - went into effect this year I believe (maybe last year, can't remember)

we can be equally impressive, even if we dont match up statistically - being #1 in the country in all major categories this year is more important than chasing teams of the past, mainly due to the clock changes
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I’ve been so ******* confused by the first down ****.
 
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DTP said:
Taking the ball out of TVD’s hands and just hoping our defense shut out the opponent isn’t good coaching. Good coaching would have found the problem and corrected it. Our coaching just went into a shell and hoped 17 points would be enough to win. If Miami is going to win a championship, coaches are going to have to make adjustments and find ways to best scheme for the players we have. The defensive staff is going to have to come up with something better than “well I hope the offense scores 50 because we’re going to give up 45”.
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Bringing TVD back was the biggest mistake... wish we had gone with another option..
 
Dwinstitles said:
When someone does stop us come playoff time because of talent I can already hear the “Dawson isn’t calling a good game” crowd complaining. Because when you face equal talent it won’t be that easy anymore. But someone will point the finger at him I bet 100%. We will get stopped eventually or slowed down for sure
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Honestly, I don't know who can slow us down other than ourselves. Teams have to slow the game down to slow us down. You either have to play coverage and hope Cam tries too hard or blitz heavy, which is dangerous with the weapons we have at WR/TE. FSU helping us find our ground game was probably the best thing that has happened this season.
 
aelmiami said:
Honestly, I don't know who can slow us down other than ourselves. Teams have to slow the game down to slow us down. You either have to play coverage and hope Cam tries too hard or blitz heavy, which is dangerous with the weapons we have at WR/TE. FSU helping us find our ground game was probably the best thing that has happened this season.
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I think there is a few teams that can possibly rush four and get to us. I mean we have given up some sacks here and there. And D Mar is fresh for a playoff run and Fletch which is a good thing. Not a lot of miles on those tires
 
KookyArtisan said:
The 83 Cornhuskers had an unbelievable offense. Might want to look at them as one of the greatest ever.
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Speaking on 1983, Steve Young at BYU (his great-great-great grandfather) was well ahead of his time.

306/429 (71.3%) (1st)
3,902 yrds passing (1st)
33 TDs (1st)
41 Total TDs (1st)
168.5 Passing Efficiency (1st)
4,346 total yrds (1st)
8.2 yards/play (1st)

Was 4 points away from going 12-0 instead of 11-1. Mike Rozier won the Heisman that yr, & Mike had a beastly season for a RB on Nebraska in 1983, but for my money I think Steve should’ve won the Heisman that yr.
 
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