Golden on WQAM 11/12/12

[rok]

Luther's daddy called in right after Golden hung up. This guy is a class-A headcase.

Are you serious?

Yes sir I am. Was going off on Dorito.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Luther's daddy called in right after Golden hung up. This guy is a class-A headcase.

Are you serious?

Yes sir I am. Was going off on Dorito.

LULZ

What was he saying this time?

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Why don't people understand...while you are looking at the schedule and thinking "easy win", "must win", "can't lose that one"...Since about 2007, there are people who look at Miami as a gimme game, and it ain't because we got the best players on the planet.

Happens every week here, people see these low level schools think its an automatic W....UH, HELLO....WE DONT HAVE A DEFENSE!!!

 

[rok]

Luther's daddy called in right after Golden hung up. This guy is a class-A headcase.

Are you serious?

Yes sir I am. Was going off on Dorito.

LULZ

What was he saying this time?

Honestly, I did not hear most of what he had to say but Joe Rose and his co-host were talking about it. They mentioned how he went in on Dorito but not so much Golden. He called with a different alias this time. The first time he was Bob from West Palm. This time he was Maurice from ft. liquordale

 

[bbcane]

we have been a 4-7 loss team for what 7 or 8 years. what made anyone think it would change this year. give golden his time, I mean really is there an alternative at this point,

 

[jakeman1]

I think Miami would have beaten UNC if Morris stayed healthy. I think without the injuries and suspensions, the defense would continued to play at least as well as they had been playing. That should have been good enough to win against UVA. There is no room for error with the defense.

 

[Pixelated bukake]

Maurice from Ft. Liquordale. Solid smack right there.

 

[Canesfan1899]

We are what we all thought we were going to be, it sings to lose games like that to a team like Virginia, but it happens when you have youth all over the roster and your best 3 defensive players are out because of suspension or injury. Call it excuses or what you want, to me it's where we are as a program, there are no gimmes anymore.

 

[Cuse2Miami26]

You people wanting a new coach might just get your wish. That interview is the first time I have thought to my self, if Tennessee came in tomorrow and offered Golden the same amount of money (not more) he would be gone.

The man is tired of all the off field **** he is dealing with; from players, to 4 AD's, to probation it has not stopped since the day he got here and he is fed up with it.

If you dont like Golden and want him fired just think to your self, "man I bet a really good coach will want to come in and take this job with all the **** storm of problems we have"

Then think to your self, "Im a ****ing moron"

I LOL'd.
A copula' things though. First beat the ishtty teams on your schedule and things will seem brighter, losing to UNC and UVA were bad losses IMO.
Stop acting like it's all wine and roses at every other program. Everyone has their issues it's just a matter of where you live and if you hear about them.
I like Golden and I'm glad he's the coach, but I don't want to hear any more of this poor Al BS.

Ever think that we are the ****ty team on other team's schedule?

Nope we beat VT so we are back to being world beaters

and if anyone thinks Golden going to Tenn he will have less issues theyre crazy... that team is full of clowns

 

[AllbouttheU]

i dont think anyone is really serious about wanting golden gone. they just want to see a change on D whcih is understandable. we all know u give a HC 4 years w his kids before u make a decision about him.

No they're serious.

 

[rok]

I don't think people want Golden's head just yet, but the honeymoon is most certainly over. He's not making it easy on himself by going 11-11 to begin his tenure here. We (probably unfairly) expected things to be different but it's more of the same on the field as of now.

 

[bg534]

we have been a 4-7 loss team for what 7 or 8 years. what made anyone think it would change this year. give golden his time, I mean really is there an alternative at this point,

We thought it would change this year because we thought Golden was a better coach than that. Two years with a program like Miami and the dude should not lose to a 3-6 UVA team. It bodes poorly for the future.

 

[GoldCane]

I don't think people want Golden's head just yet, but the honeymoon is most certainly over. He's not making it easy on himself by going 11-11 to begin his tenure here. We (probably unfairly) expected things to be different but it's more of the same on the field as of now.

really anyone reasonable shouldnt have expected much better than that. A couple of more games would have been nice, but, people need to be real about where this program is/was coming from. It takes a bit of time. Let this class that Golden just signed (really his first class where he was able to recruit-under the cloud of sanctions no less) become upperclassmen and then judge him. If Duke's class become Juniors and we are not contending for a BCS bowl then it's time to make a move. I have a feeling we won't have to worry about that.

 

[NVA CANE]

we have been a 4-7 loss team for what 7 or 8 years. what made anyone think it would change this year. give golden his time, I mean really is there an alternative at this point,

We thought it would change this year because we thought Golden was a better coach than that. Two years with a program like Miami and the dude should not lose to a 3-6 UVA team. It bodes poorly for the future.

This team without bush, EJ and Perryman is a one maybe two win team. Throw duke in there and we are winless. Think about that. Take away three of those four and we are winless. That's how young and bad the talent is. So when people point to UVAs record and say we should have beaten them, we are and for that game were 3 players short of being worse than them. Without EJ, Perryman and bush it was more like a 3 win UVA playing a 2 win Miami. Not making excuses that's just the reality of the situation.

 

[bg534]

we have been a 4-7 loss team for what 7 or 8 years. what made anyone think it would change this year. give golden his time, I mean really is there an alternative at this point,

We thought it would change this year because we thought Golden was a better coach than that. Two years with a program like Miami and the dude should not lose to a 3-6 UVA team. It bodes poorly for the future.

This team without bush, EJ and Perryman is a one maybe two win team. Throw duke in there and we are winless. Think about that. Take away three of those four and we are winless. That's how young and bad the talent is. So when people point to UVAs record and say we should have beaten them, we are and for that game were 3 players short of being worse than them. Without EJ, Perryman and bush it was more like a 3 win UVA playing a 2 win Miami. Not making excuses that's just the reality of the situation.

I vehemently disagree with that being the reality of the situation. I'm sorry, but we are talent deprived for a MIAMI team, not relative to the rest of the nation. UVA would love to have our guys minus those four (if in exchange they got to keep Perry Jones, basically the only decent player on that team I can think of). Top to bottom, we are better than them from a pure talent perspective. We were better than UNC from a pure talent perspective as well, if you remember the game (although they are a bit more top heavy).

Our defense generally fails at reaction time, we don't suffer an inability to catch these guys from a speed perspective, and we are probably stronger than them too (the one real positive thing Golden has done so far that his predecessors did not). To the untrained eye the reaction time problems may look like a lack of speed or strength, but it is really a mental deficiency that our kids have been suffering from for years, and 9 games into this season it looks like we still suffer from those deficiencies. At this point in the year, a decent coach would have gotten these guys to improve upon that aspect of their game a little bit.

 

[sebastian91]

I vehemently disagree with that being the reality of the situation. I'm sorry, but we are talent deprived for a MIAMI team, not relative to the rest of the nation.

Based on what? This is pure delusion. Vegas saw it (we were an underdog on Saturday). Virtually every major media analyst saw it. ****, even the Beast saw it. The only people who didn't see it are delusional Miami fans stuck in the past.

 

[Shogungts]

I vehemently disagree with that being the reality of the situation. I'm sorry, but we are talent deprived for a MIAMI team, not relative to the rest of the nation.

Based on what? This is pure delusion. Vegas saw it (we were an underdog on Saturday). Virtually every major media analyst saw it. ****, even the Beast saw it. The only people who didn't see it are delusional Miami fans stuck in the past.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you on the talent thing, but everyone 'seeing it' does not mean we were less talented, but simply rather that they thought we would lose; that can be talent, coaching or a combination of both. I actually agree with you that the talent level is horrible, but I dont think your argument holds much weight.

 

[NVA CANE]

we have been a 4-7 loss team for what 7 or 8 years. what made anyone think it would change this year. give golden his time, I mean really is there an alternative at this point,

We thought it would change this year because we thought Golden was a better coach than that. Two years with a program like Miami and the dude should not lose to a 3-6 UVA team. It bodes poorly for the future.

This team without bush, EJ and Perryman is a one maybe two win team. Throw duke in there and we are winless. Think about that. Take away three of those four and we are winless. That's how young and bad the talent is. So when people point to UVAs record and say we should have beaten them, we are and for that game were 3 players short of being worse than them. Without EJ, Perryman and bush it was more like a 3 win UVA playing a 2 win Miami. Not making excuses that's just the reality of the situation.

I vehemently disagree with that being the reality of the situation. I'm sorry, but we are talent deprived for a MIAMI team, not relative to the rest of the nation. UVA would love to have our guys minus those four (if in exchange they got to keep Perry Jones, basically the only decent player on that team I can think of). Top to bottom, we are better than them from a pure talent perspective. We were better than UNC from a pure talent perspective as well, if you remember the game (although they are a bit more top heavy).

Our defense generally fails at reaction time, we don't suffer an inability to catch these guys from a speed perspective, and we are probably stronger than them too (the one real positive thing Golden has done so far that his predecessors did not). To the untrained eye the reaction time problems may look like a lack of speed or strength, but it is really a mental deficiency that our kids have been suffering from for years, and 9 games into this season it looks like we still suffer from those deficiencies. At this point in the year, a decent coach would have gotten these guys to improve upon that aspect of their game a little bit.

I respect your opinion but Larry did two whole threads at how bad our talent is as in DII talent not even worthy of UVA talent. A lot of the upperclassman are JAGS and not Miami jags but college football jags. When 3 of our 4 best players are out this team is cringe worthy bad. And that's not normal for a college team that plays 11 on each side of the ball.

 

[bg534]

we have been a 4-7 loss team for what 7 or 8 years. what made anyone think it would change this year. give golden his time, I mean really is there an alternative at this point,

We thought it would change this year because we thought Golden was a better coach than that. Two years with a program like Miami and the dude should not lose to a 3-6 UVA team. It bodes poorly for the future.

This team without bush, EJ and Perryman is a one maybe two win team. Throw duke in there and we are winless. Think about that. Take away three of those four and we are winless. That's how young and bad the talent is. So when people point to UVAs record and say we should have beaten them, we are and for that game were 3 players short of being worse than them. Without EJ, Perryman and bush it was more like a 3 win UVA playing a 2 win Miami. Not making excuses that's just the reality of the situation.

I vehemently disagree with that being the reality of the situation. I'm sorry, but we are talent deprived for a MIAMI team, not relative to the rest of the nation. UVA would love to have our guys minus those four (if in exchange they got to keep Perry Jones, basically the only decent player on that team I can think of). Top to bottom, we are better than them from a pure talent perspective. We were better than UNC from a pure talent perspective as well, if you remember the game (although they are a bit more top heavy).

Our defense generally fails at reaction time, we don't suffer an inability to catch these guys from a speed perspective, and we are probably stronger than them too (the one real positive thing Golden has done so far that his predecessors did not). To the untrained eye the reaction time problems may look like a lack of speed or strength, but it is really a mental deficiency that our kids have been suffering from for years, and 9 games into this season it looks like we still suffer from those deficiencies. At this point in the year, a decent coach would have gotten these guys to improve upon that aspect of their game a little bit.

I respect your opinion but Larry did two whole threads at how bad our talent is as in DII talent not even worthy of UVA talent. A lot of the upperclassman are JAGS and not Miami jags but college football jags. When 3 of our 4 best players are out this team is cringe worthy bad. And that's not normal for a college team that plays 11 on each side of the ball.

But are these kids bad because they don't have the physical/mental tools, or are they bad because they aren't being developed and/or utilized correctly? No doubt some of these kids are awful for anywhere (Kacy Rodgers comes to mind, also Darius Smith), but the majority of them, I would contend, have very good athletic ability relative to the average college football player. No doubt much of our D-line sucks, but why has Chickillo, a guy who is obviously gifted, taken a step back this year? Is the "bust rate" so high because these kids were always horrible and should have never come to Miami, or is the rate of busts (still) so high because coaches are still not developing these kids properly?

We find out for sure next year, Perryman and Dorsett are the big guys to watch in that regard, both talented kids entering their junior season. It's tough to say with the emergence of Duke, Bush, and Eddie Johnson because even Shannon was able to develop guys into their Sophomore season. It was entering their junior years that everybody except Spence and Hankerson (self starters) failed to develop further.

 

[sebastian91]

I vehemently disagree with that being the reality of the situation. I'm sorry, but we are talent deprived for a MIAMI team, not relative to the rest of the nation.

Based on what? This is pure delusion. Vegas saw it (we were an underdog on Saturday). Virtually every major media analyst saw it. ****, even the Beast saw it. The only people who didn't see it are delusional Miami fans stuck in the past.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you on the talent thing, but everyone 'seeing it' does not mean we were less talented, but simply rather that they thought we would lose; that can be talent, coaching or a combination of both. I actually agree with you that the talent level is horrible, but I dont think your argument holds much weight.

I was only referring to UVa in terms of Vegas, and they thought we would lose on Saturday. The rest refer to preseason predictions on how competitive we'd be over the course of the season. I don't know of anyone with a brain who thought this team would be any good. My argument may not have much weight, but there were countless analysts, like Phil Steele, who do this stuff for a living who thought we'd be a really crappy team this year. They were right. Crappy teams can get beaten by any other crappy team on any given Saturday.