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DMoney said:
If my son had a chance to play FBS, and was passionate about playing, I'd tell him to take it over an Ivy opportunity.

Smart is smart. You don't get dumber by going to a football school. Being different from other candidates gets you noticed. And then it's up to your chops and work ethic.
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Ivy is all need based so he’s definitely going to pay 60k+ a year for him to go there. I’d probably send my kid Ivy over a ****** FBS school. Definitely depends on the type of academic institution it is.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
That is a very valid point. Just like if my son was passionate about being a navy seal, but got into an Ivy League school. I would push for him to got to Navy, since it better fits is goals.

No you don't get dumber by going to a P5 school and yes being different helps you get notice. I also agree that it is up to your work ethic, however, not going to an elite school will close a lot of doors for you.
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Better yet, get him to go to the Naval Academy. He still could involved with the Seals after graduation.

Military Academy degrees look good on a resume or CV. If you played football there, even better.

And here’s a bonus, parents don’t pay a penny out of pocket. Zilch.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Better yet, get him to go to the Naval Academy. He still could involved with the Seals after graduation.

Military Academy degrees look good on a resume or CV. If you played football there, even better.

And here’s a bonus, parents don’t pay a penny out of pocket. Zilch.
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That is exactly what I meant by saying "push him to go to Navy". I should have made it a bit clearer. As in, not have him join the Navy right out of HS, but instead going to the Naval Academy, then join the navy after graduating.

You are 100% correct too, having a degree from those academies look great on your resume.
 
Having an Ivy league degree looks great and all but just a bachelor's degree isn't doing much anymore. You need advanced degrees to move up in big firms and companies and Ivy league tuition is expensive, 60k for tuition probably another 20-30k in housing and expenses per year. You're looking at close to 100k per year especially in a place like Cambridge, Mass. (Harvard) or Long Island, NY (Columbia). Ivies do not give athletic or academic scholarships. It's need based and Manny absolutely does not fit the criteria for aid. If you're a good football player, NFL caliber, it would be a good decision to make all the money you can in the NFL on top of the pension that you get if you play more than 3 years. Its not a crazy amount but still something to fall back on in case things get rough.

At the end of the day, your Ivy degree will always be there and with the average NFL career being what it is, you may still be in your 20s when you stop playing, 30s if you're lucky. Still plenty of time to get in to another field and put your degree to use. Needless to say, although Ivy's look great, they are also not the end all, be all. Plenty of other schools that are just as good, and are not in the "Ivy 8". In a lot of professions its about having the degree, not as much about where its from.
 
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armandose23 said:
Having an Ivy league degree looks great and all but just a bachelor's degree isn't doing much anymore. You need advanced degrees to move up in big firms and companies and Ivy league tuition is expensive, 60k for tuition probably another 20-30k in housing and expenses per year. You're looking at close to 100k per year especially in a place like Cambridge, Mass. (Harvard) or Long Island, NY (Columbia). Ivies do not give athletic or academic scholarships. It's need based and Manny absolutely does not fit the criteria for aid. If you're a good football player, NFL caliber, it would be a good decision to make all the money you can in the NFL on top of the pension that you get if you play more than 3 years. Its not a crazy amount but still something to fall back on in case things get rough.

At the end of the day, your Ivy degree will always be there and with the average NFL career being what it is, you may still be in your 20s when you stop playing, 30s if you're lucky. Still plenty of time to get in to another field and put your degree to use. Needless to say, although Ivy's look great, they are also not the end all, be all. Plenty of other schools that are just as good, and are not in the "Ivy 8". In a lot of professions its about having the degree, not as much about where its from.
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Columbia is in the city not LI but i get your point
 
Go Canes!! said:
I said a kid not that kid, Barney.
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armandose23 said:
Having an Ivy league degree looks great and all but just a bachelor's degree isn't doing much anymore. You need advanced degrees to move up in big firms and companies
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Bachelor’s from an Ivy plus other similar schools still hold more weight even than other schools. You can definitely advance in finance and in big companies without them, as someone who attended one and has seen the different career arcs with his own eyes.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
Bachelor’s from an Ivy plus other similar schools still hold more weight even than other schools. You can definitely advance in finance and in big companies without them, as someone who attended one and has seen the different career arcs with his own eyes.
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you at least get a pay bump and seen vs getting your resume thrown in a pile
 
hoops156 said:
you at least get a pay bump and seen vs getting your resume thrown in a pile
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Exactly, you simply can get in the door at places that many people can’t. That alone is huge. Not to mention how differently your applications at professional schools will be looked at.
 
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AllAboutTheU said:
Bachelor’s from an Ivy plus other similar schools still hold more weight even than other schools. You can definitely advance in finance and in big companies without them, as someone who attended one and has seen the different career arcs with his own eyes.
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Oh ok. Glad to hear they still hold more weight. I think considering how hard you work to get in plus how expensive it is, it’s natural they would. I’m a doctor so, when it comes time to getting a job it’s not a huge deal other than pride unless the chief of your department happened to go to the same ivy. Healthcare is more about having the degree than where it came from. I know law is still about where you got it. Of course both of these mentioned fields require graduate school, not just a bachelors
 
Not every football player is Myron Rolle.
I know two people that attended post grad Ivey league schools.
One went to penn law and the other to Tucks School of business.
They bothe wipe their *** with my salary. My yearly income is less than an expense to them. I’m not exaggerating they got that much bank.
very few nfl players make as much. That nfl money shrinks significantly if you aren’t smart With it and the fact that the average career is 3 years. If my son had d1 talent but not first round talent I would tell him to go Ivey league if he had the opportunity.
 
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TacoCane said:
Yeah I was about to say... they give you "financial aid"
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Non-scholarship schools still work it so that it ends up being close to a scholarship. I was recruited and told to write “football” at the top of the application in order for them to prioritize financial aid packages for you since they couldn’t offer true scholarships.
 
PSU Cane said:
Non-scholarship schools still work it so that it ends up being close to a scholarship. I was recruited and told to write “football” at the top of the application in order for them to prioritize financial aid packages for you since they couldn’t offer true scholarships.
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Non-scholarship schools might, but the Ivies themselves are need based, which is honestly better. They don't have to "prioritize" giving limited funds to their athletes because they have enough money to give financial aid to anyone. If the athlete's parents make less than 60k combined, then the school can just provide them with financial aid rather than giving out limited scholarship funds. My parents made under 40k combined growing up, got me a full ride to Duke.
 
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