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What’s this showing, that he leads in big plays? He has a lot of raw ability, regardless of the gator hate.
That he is like the best true freshman in the last decade in big time throw RATE. While also being at the lower end of turnovers rate. And obviously he has the build that many of these true freshman don't have, which speaks to his future growth potential as well.

If we had a true freshman that was ranked where he draws on this list we'd be very very happy about our future.
 
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That he is like the best true freshman in the last decade in big time throw RATE. While also being at the lower end of turnovers rate. And obviously he has the build that many of these true freshman don't have, which speaks to his future growth potential as well.

If we had a true freshman that was ranked where he draws on this list we'd be very very happy about our future.
I didn’t realize he was that good last year and I was a Lagway proponent who got crap on here for praising him as being a talent for the future. I saw erratic play with highs and lows but apparently it’s a lot more highs.
 
If he can’t see it he can’t see it. It means he will be a first read guy possibly. He can win but elite, we all know when you see elite. They extend plays and throw dots in the face of pressure with ease. He’s going to need Billy to draw things up on first read (which most coaches can do including Billy)

But when they face a team that can make him scan the field that’s when you have a chance to make him under perform. Don’t think he’s a qb that can win you games consistently imo. He’s won’t be like the main reason they win, sort of like Hurts. He has to have a full deck if not he ****ed. And the gators do not have a full deck
Tells you what I know QBs , I thought once the game started slowing down you would. Be able to see more of the field
 
Tells you what I know QBs , I thought once the game started slowing down you would. Be able to see more of the field
Sometimes they just dont have it its that simple. Especially when there is an elite pass rush, how they move in the pocket and extend plays keeps defenders off balance and shook. Thats why it was so difficult to defend Ward he already walked into games with that threat, everyone knew dont get to crazy or you in trouble. That fear factor is crazy it makes teams hesitant asf. That trait you cant really measure at combines or workouts, there is no workout for vision and being confident in the pocket. Thats why so many QBs become Jags, if they had a workout for it there would be less busts. Pause


Its basically a roll of the dice, thats why you see so many QBs from unheralded schools shock people and have good seasons. Now when that QB has a great year at a lesser school everyone knows and the tampering begins, then the kid leaves to a bigger program.
 
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That he is like the best true freshman in the last decade in big time throw RATE. While also being at the lower end of turnovers rate. And obviously he has the build that many of these true freshman don't have, which speaks to his future growth potential as well.

If we had a true freshman that was ranked where he draws on this list we'd be very very happy about our future.
Love your charts. But facts can be deceptive with the right cherry picking. He has a **** of an arm but has inconsistent accuracy to be able to thread the needle. And he's overly confident. His OL won't do him any favors either. I believe Lagway will be a pick machine next year now that everyone has film on him.
 
Love your charts. But facts can be deceptive with the right cherry picking. He has a **** of an arm but has inconsistent accuracy to be able to thread the needle. And he's overly confident. His OL won't do him any favors either. I believe Lagway will be a pick machine next year now that everyone has film on him.
Well of course, this is just looking at one statistical metric. It doesn’t at all tell the whole story. It also sin’t exactly predictive. Though QBs that in general don’t commit many twp typically consistently do so. Again this isn’t TD:Turnover. It’s looking at every throw and assigning a big time throw stat or a turnover WORTHY stat line. Regardless everyone would be a complete liar if they’d say you’d prefer to be a different qb on THIS metric.

Pressure 2 sack ratio is also quite important and actually a bit more predictive. I have that for him somewhere I can post.

I also have his actual accuracy% number I can post for the full season as well. Idr if it was good or not. But it’s more than just comp% obviously.
 
Love your charts. But facts can be deceptive with the right cherry picking. He has a **** of an arm but has inconsistent accuracy to be able to thread the needle. And he's overly confident. His OL won't do him any favors either. I believe Lagway will be a pick machine next year now that everyone has film on him.
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It was the inconsistent accuracy that I recall watching but I still thought he was fine because he’s a true freshman with a nothing great OL, a good couple of RBs, and nothing special catching the ball last season. I felt he needs time and better players around him. I think they got better at the WR spots with the high school class and those guys might step up. I’m not sure about their OL next year. Probably improved because of experience.
 
Well of course, this is just looking at one statistical metric. It doesn’t at all tell the whole story. It also sin’t exactly predictive. Though QBs that in general don’t commit many twp typically consistently do so. Again this isn’t TD:Turnover. It’s looking at every throw and assigning a big time throw stat or a turnover WORTHY stat line. Regardless everyone would be a complete liar if they’d say you’d prefer to be a different qb on THIS metric.

Pressure 2 sack ratio is also quite important and actually a bit more predictive. I have that for him somewhere I can post.

I also have his actual accuracy% number I can post for the full season as well. Idr if it was good or not. But it’s more than just comp% obviously.
How does a guy who got intercepted on nearly 5% of his pass attempts have a low turnover worthy play rate? I couldn’t find his actual ranking because the page that lists individual interception percentages only goes up to 100 but Florida as a team was 123rd. Mertz only threw two of them.

Sometimes these weird PPF stats don’t make any sense.
 
How does a guy who got intercepted on nearly 5% of his pass attempts have a low turnover worthy play rate? I couldn’t find his actual ranking because the page that lists individual interception percentages only goes up to 100 but Florida as a team was 123rd. Mertz only threw two of them.

Sometimes these weird PPF stats don’t make any sense.


Perhaps none of Lagway's interceptions were turnover-worthy? Obviously, it was a Gator fan who compiled the stats...
 
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To me it all comes down to who is teaching him to read defenses. He has all the physical tools, and he can watch all the film he wants. But there’s a world of difference between watching film with Lincoln Riley vs watching film with Billy Napier. He may not pick up those nuances that separate the good from the elite.
 
The kid looks like he may become a talent and a decent QB going forward but as of today the 9th of February he hasn’t earned all the accolades that are being thrown at him in my eyes.

Now I’ll preface this by saying I’m in no way a QB guru like some but I see what I see from watching football for over 60-65 years and just comparing what he has done so far against what others I have seen through the years have done

Maybe he becomes a HOF or just an adequate QB but as of today he’s not the second coming of Tebow as most Gator fans are proclaiming but if he does pan out to be this ill be the first to give the young man his props.
 
The kid looks like he may become a talent and a decent QB going forward but as of today the 9th of February he hasn’t earned all the accolades that are being thrown at him in my eyes.

Now I’ll preface this by saying I’m in no way a QB guru like some but I see what I see from watching football for over 60-65 years and just comparing what he has done so far against what others I have seen through the years have done

Maybe he becomes a HOF or just an adequate QB but as of today he’s not the second coming of Tebow as most Gator fans are proclaiming but if he does pan out to be this ill be the first to give the young man his props.
DJ seems like a poor man's Jalen Hurts to me
 
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How does a guy who got intercepted on nearly 5% of his pass attempts have a low turnover worthy play rate? I couldn’t find his actual ranking because the page that lists individual interception percentages only goes up to 100 but Florida as a team was 123rd. Mertz only threw two of them.

Sometimes these weird PPF stats don’t make any sense.
Relatively low when compared to his big time throw RATE. If you just look at that chart I provided he has the 3rd highest. But again the original chart was JUST listing true freshman. This second one i provided isn't even doing that.

Interceptions may or may not be turnover worthy, regardless whether the defender caught the ball. What if 3 of the interceptions deflected off his WRs hands? What if one of the interceptions was a hail Mary before the end of a half? They'd remove that one.

They also are much stricter about fumbles. They do not care about who recovers the fumble. If they think the fumble was avoidable you will get a turnover worthy play for it even if you recover. And if you look, Lagway has a good fumble grade relative to the rest on this list.
 
Relatively low when compared to his big time throw RATE. If you just look at that chart I provided he has the 3rd highest. But again the original chart was JUST listing true freshman. This second one i provided isn't even doing that.

Interceptions may or may not be turnover worthy, regardless whether the defender caught the ball. What if 3 of the interceptions deflected off his WRs hands? What if one of the interceptions was a hail Mary before the end of a half? They'd remove that one.

They also are much stricter about fumbles. They do not care about who recovers the fumble. If they think the fumble was avoidable you will get a turnover worthy play for it even if you recover. And if you look, Lagway has a good fumble grade relative to the rest on this list.
I guess the guy watching the film determines what’s considered “turnover worthy”. Seems like if 5% of your passes are being intercepted though (one of the worst if not THE worst percentage in the country) it’s more than some bad luck and deflected passes.

Regardless of what someone calls turnover worthy or big play worthy or whatever, his play didn’t translate into more points for the gator offense.
 
I think he will bust. He could have the tools but if he fails Napier will never get out of the QB killer narrative that was stuck to Mario before. I don't see him turning a kid into anything.
 
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