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RVACane said:
How did he pass the moral and religious components of the CFA vetting process? He doesn’t strike me as anything resembling a Saint.
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Facts. My coworker told me about the process. I guess they fly you and your spouse up to Atlanta and interview you separately. He made it seem rougher than sitting for a security clearance. Lol
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
I'm about to say something pretty unfortunate, and I wish it wasn't true, based on my great desire for an on-campus stadium...

...but those on-campus stadiums ain't cheap...

And for the last couple of years, the COVID restrictions cut into Athletic revenue, while the expenses for facilities stayed the same. That's why you see F$U trying to steal sales tax money from Leon County to pay for urinals inside of Doak.

The situations are a bit different, and F$U is in a FAAAR worse position. First, F$U doesn't have an alum base with nearly as much money as the Gaytor alum base. And if you go back a few years, the issues that Jimbo had with the boosters involved not just money (they weren't raising enough) but also control and spending priorities. Yes, the F$U booster club was trying to reorganize itself for the future, but they really got started just before COVID. Womp-womp...

Another big difference is that Doak is an absolute ****hole of a stadium with its infrastructure, notwithstanding the brick facade. That's why they need so much money to fix up the dump, without actually adding seating capacity, because the insides of Doak were never torn down and rebuilt in a modern fashion.

So for F$U, they've never really had big revenue or boosters, they have a very costly stadium without very many amenities (another part of what they want to spend Leon County tax money on), and they were particularly hard-hit by COVID limitations and game cancellations.

On the other hand, the Gaytors have usually run a profit within their Athletic Department, contributing money BACK TO the University. Of course, that has its own complications, as they may have been better-served by diverting that money to future capital expenditures. But at least the Gaytor alums are wealthier and have a better history of making contributions to the booster club. The Gaytors have also made a ton of money as an SEC member, plus they get a nice bump from the Florida-Georgia game being held in Jax every year. And while they also have a lot of upkeep with Florida Field, that stadium has been far-better-maintained over the past several decades, including a very nice north end zone section.

Yes, the hate flows strong with me. I hate both the Gaytors and the SemenHoles. But I also pay attention to them and figure out what they do right and wrong. That's why I know that both UiF and F$U are struggling to get the whole "NIL thing" going. Because they've had a lot of heavy "asks" in fund-raising over the past few years. F$U with coaching buyouts and payouts. UiF with some (belated) capital improvements that they are just finishing up. So to go back to the alums AGAIN just for legal payola is...a stretch.

As I've mentioned before, John Ruiz isn't our only big-money donor. But it becomes a lot easier to get him to arrange NIL money when we haven't been hitting him up for cash for the past decade.
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Maintaining stadiums is costly. I did this post three years ago discussing this:

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Tears - Nole Tears

The boosters aren't gonna keep dishing out money without a say in who the next coach is I understand. However the school has to thank it’s Lucky stars that boosters paid out that money. Without the boosters working out that buyout they wouldn’t be able to afford a high priced coach or high...
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Joe Robbie Stadium opened in 1987, just thirty two years ago.

2006 (18 years old): $318M ($250M unadjusted for inflation) renovation
2015 (28 years old): $379M ($350M unadjusted for inflation)renovation

So in the last 32 years, almost $700M was spent renovating Hard Rock Stadium. That's money that would have had to come from the University of Miami if it was an on campus stadium.

Granted, the renovations were driven by the desire to keep Miami in contention as a Super Bowl host site. So let's look at the Texas Longhorns, which have an on-campus stadium. Dollars listed are adjusted for inflation:

1923: $4.7M Initial cost for 27,000 seat stadium
1927: $1.8M Seating capacity raised to 40,500
1948: $15.0M Seating capacity raised to 60,000
1955: $1.9M light towers added
1971: (?) Upper deck added, capacity raised to 77,809
1986: $16.4M Athletic center added to south end of stadium
1998: (?) Upper deck added to east end of stadium
2005: $19.7M renovations
2006: $10.2M audio/visual improvements
2007: $185.3M expansion project
2009: $32.3M rebuild of Athletic Center
2013: $68.3M renovation to basement of north end zone
2019: $175.0M south end zone expansion
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
I was only joking. I never been there, but looks like from the map and names they are all part of like UFs "food court" type thing. Like how we have Wendys at our food court near the rat.

I just found it hilarious that they have 3 of them right next to each other. I would love to know what moron set that up. At least at Miami it would take you a while to get from wendys on campus to the wendys near Red Rd. This is like Wendys putting one in the food court, one in hecht and one next to the frost school of music.
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They probably had to keep building more because the first Wendy's would get way, way overcrowded on "date night."
 
oso4lyf said:


I guess they don't believe in Sunbelt Billy and his army of average coaches
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They'd have to be to lose to FSU.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
I didn't realize Gainesville had the nicest Papa johns in all of Florida.
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satchels. if you ever make a drive through the state stop by. its pretty good for a state that has not very good pizza.

Gainesville does the local mom and pops pretty well. a lot of that is going away though w the increase in the chains. there was a huge ordeal when they added Cheesecake Factory and pf Changs. Orlando is very chain heavy, miami is trendy and overrated for the most part, and Tampa is just there.
 
hoops156 said:
satchels. if you ever make a drive through the state stop by. its pretty good for a state that has not very good pizza.

Gainesville does the local mom and pops pretty well. a lot of that is going away though w the increase in the chains. there was a huge ordeal when they added Cheesecake Factory and pf Changs. Orlando is very chain heavy, miami is trendy and overrated for the most part, and Tampa is just there.
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I am sure it was a huge deal when Gainesville opened those fine dining establishments. I am sure all the high rollers pulled out their finest pair of jorts from their accordion closets, threw their sisters in the cargo bed, and took them on the best date of their life during the ribbon cutting ceremony.
 
hoops156 said:
satchels. if you ever make a drive through the state stop by. its pretty good for a state that has not very good pizza.

Gainesville does the local mom and pops pretty well. a lot of that is going away though w the increase in the chains. there was a huge ordeal when they added Cheesecake Factory and pf Changs. Orlando is very chain heavy, miami is trendy and overrated for the most part, and Tampa is just there.
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Satchels is the most over rated establishment in Gainesville. I like to try small , mom and pops pizza places in the area and I hit that dump up. Spent 28 bucks on the most mediocre pizza ever. I’d rather had a 5 star pizza and for 11 bucks. That’s coming from a guy who doesn’t buy chain pizza.

Btw nothing personal with the bird emoji. It’s just business.
 
Cribby said:
Satchels is the most over rated establishment in Gainesville. I like to try small , mom and pops pizza places in the area and I hit that dump up. Spent 28 bucks on the most mediocre pizza ever. I’d rather had a 5 star pizza and for 11 bucks. That’s coming from a guy who doesn’t buy chain pizza.

Btw nothing personal with the bird emoji. It’s just business.
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I spent too much time up there when my now wife was finishing up vet school.

Leonardo's for me was the spot. The 1 on millhopper
 
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