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kryptonite said:
So I understand all those words, but the order you put them in...It's kind of confusing me. I don't get how uf and suspending players or a full and fair investigation fit together. Maybe I'm just dense, but I can't wrap my mind around uf and "suspension" being in the same sentence.
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Hence the qualifying sentence afterwards that threw that idea out the window lol
 
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They arguing whether UF is a Top 10 school in the country
 
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Manny brought in Brenda Tracey a few weeks ago to talk to the team. She was raped while in college by 2 Oregon St. Football players. She talked about various things such how it affected her life and so on. I remember seeing multiple players retweet her tweet and thanked her for sharing her story.

Mullen on the other hand......although he says hes against all that stuff his actions even up till today show otherwise

If you think things like this dont go unnoticed....
 
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Canes2082 said:
Manny brought in Brenda Tracey a few weeks ago to talk to the team. She was raped while in college by 2 Oregon St. Football players. She talked about various things such how it affected her life and so on. I remember seeing multiple players retweet her tweet and thanked her for sharing her story.

Mullen on the other hand......although he says hes against all that stuff his actions even up till today show otherwise

If you think things like this dont go unnoticed....
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I googled the name &..
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
When I was at UM, I was a tutor for the Athletic Department. Keep in mind, this was during the years when Alexander Wolff called our program a criminal enterprise, when he told Tad Foote to shut the program down.

And outside of a specific instance I know about (which went through The Honor Council) involving 2 players in a test situation who were accused of looking at another student's test paper, for which they were NOT found guilty, I can tell you that nothing like what just happened at UF ever happened at UM when I was there (and I heard PLENTY of the "other" stories about behavior at parties, clubs, etc.). Players that I worked with, both individually and in groups, stayed for the entire time they were being tutored. And these were "supposedly" among the worst-behaved and "most criminal" of the Miami football players who ever attended The U.

Some of you know Dr. Anna Price, she kept a tight rein on the Academic Support program. It wasn't just some kind of "keep the kids eligible" boondoggle. If you ever went to her office, she had photo after photo from years worth of athletes who were proud to have GRADUATED, some of whom may have been the first in their family to graduate from college (as I was too). Dr. Price would devise individual study plans for every athlete, based on ability and coursework, and some had to do "more tutoring" while others required fewer hours. And the players did well. Miami had eliminated most of the "jock majors" and a good percentage of the athletes were in the School of Business with me. ****, I remember a group project that I did that included both QB Craig Erickson and LS George Michael, we got an A.

The bottom line is that Miami (and JJ's approach to the issue, after Schnellenberger had let too many academic issues slide) has a very legitimate, genuine, and individual approach to helping athletes transition from (often lesser) high school academics to college academics. I tutored Hi-C when he was academically ineligible due to Prop 48, and I helped him to make up for his lack of higher level HS math classes, so that he could handle Business Calc.

A lot of detail gets overlooked when people comment on academic support and tutoring. When I was at UM, the athletes didn't disrespect me or other tutors because they knew they would have to deal with Dr. Price. I knew when certain players were "not played in a game" because they had "broken a team rule" that basically involved not doing their required study hall/tutoring hours.

Anyhow, I know that the NCAA APR rules are something that has arisen over the past 10 or 15 years, but I can tell you that UM has been serious about academic support for the athletes since JJ took the job as head football coach in the 1980s. And people need to stop making excuses for poorly-behaved athletes "because they are young and dumb". I know that people can ***** up sometimes, but most of these college athletes grew up playing at least one sport that uses conformity and discipline to build teamwork and production. The team-sport athletes do better when the rules are enforced, as opposed to people making excuses for them. I've seen our football team, in particular, struggle when there is "star-treatment" given to certain players.

But, sure, we are going to keep hearing stories out of Gainesville about how "no charges were pressed" or that a person being choked "could talk and breathe". Think about that, and then think about why you rarely hear the same kinds of stories at UM. I'm not saying they NEVER happen, I'm just saying that UM does a better job of ACTUALLY dealing with these problems than most schools do. The Gaytors (among others) are a school that tends to react to problems, they do just enough to get by. UF is one of the schools that treats academic support as an "eligibility maintenance" program. Doesn't matter how many athlete study halls they build (they are just trying to compete with other SEC schools), the effort is not genuine and the outcomes are evidence of that.
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Another reason to love UM. Thank you for sharing.
 
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