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For those who say we need an "offensive coach"

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Yards per play is one of my favorite stats. It captures the effectiveness of a unit independent of other factors, like pace. For example, Alabama's 2012 offense ranked only 44th in total yards. But they were 7th in the nation in yards per play.

Yards per play correlates with championships. Here are the last twelve champions and their national rankings in offensive and defensive yards per play:

'14 Ohio State (4th in offense, 11th in defense)
'13 FSU (1st in offense, 1st in defense)
'12 Alabama (7th in offense, 1st in defense)
'11 Alabama (10th in offense, 1st in defense)
'10 Auburn (3rd in offense, 47th in defense)
'09 Alabama (28th in offense, 7th in defense)
'08 Florida (7th in offense, 10th in defense)
'07 LSU (34th in offense, 5th in defense)
'06 Florida (18th in offense, 12th in defense)
'05 Texas (2nd in offense, 9th in defense)
'04 USC (7th in offense, 4th in defense)
'03 USC (6th in offense, 9th in defense)

Three of the last four champions finished first in the nation in yards per play allowed. Nine of the past twelve finished in the Top 10, and only Cam Newton's Auburn team finished outside the Top 15.

Which brings me to Miami. Since the Golden era began, Miami's offense is 10th nationally in yards per play. The only Power 5 teams above Miami are Baylor, Oregon, FSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Georgia and Wisconsin.

The defense hasn't fared as well. They are 74th in the nation over the same period.

Whoever we get needs to fix the defense, immediately. It is the most pressing issue facing the program.
 
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And this is not to say that an offensive coach can't build a great defense, or vice versa. But defense still wins championships.
 
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How about we stop making this about offense/defense and discuss the reality that we need an "elite" coach that can actually coach the game of football at a high level. All of those coaches (outside of Mack Brown) are considered elite coaches and programs. Half of the teams in your stats actually rated HIGHER in yard per play on offense VS. defense, so not really sure what your stat proves. Other than the fact that those teams were great on both....which all programs including ours should strive for.

The argument to bring in an offensive mind is with staff turnover, it's more difficult to maintain continuity and progress when you're changing offensive coordinators every couple years.....and there is no doubt the game has changed over the past decade. If your head man is an offensive mastermind, then that side of the ball will consistently keep you in games, even when the defense has an off day.

Guys comparing coaches like Chip, Herman and Urban to the likes of Mike Leach (who I admit is a terrible coach and does ignore that side of the ball) have just gone full ******.
 
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Big Sky Cane said:
Half of the teams in your stats actually rated HIGHER in yard per play on offense VS. defense, so not really sure what your stat proves.
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It shows that championship teams are great at both, and that our offense is a lot closer to that level than our defense.

It also disproves the notion that it's "an offensive game now." Three of the past four champions were first overall on defense.
 
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Yeah Gene Chizik is elite, you're right.

Big Sky Cane said:
How about we stop making this about offense/defense and discuss the reality that we need an "elite" coach that can actually coach the game of football at a high level. All of those coaches (outside of Mack Brown) are considered elite coaches and programs. Half of the teams in your stats actually rated HIGHER in yard per play on offense VS. defense, so not really sure what your stat proves. Other than the fact that those teams were great on both....which all programs including ours should strive for.

The argument to bring in an offensive mind is with staff turnover, it's more difficult to maintain continuity and progress when you're changing offensive coordinators every couple years.....and there is no doubt the game has changed over the past decade. If your head man is an offensive mastermind, then that side of the ball will consistently keep you in games, even when the defense has an off day.

Guys comparing coaches like Chip, Herman and Urban to the likes of Mike Leach (who I admit is a terrible coach and does ignore that side of the ball) have just gone full ******.
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Dmoney, these numbers mean absolutely nothing and are very misleading if you are not scoring touchdowns or stopping the other team from scoring touchdowns which is what Miami has done under Golden. Miami offense was no where near championship level under Golden, are you kidding with that 3rd down conversion percentage, field goals in the red zone. By the way how can both Miami and Alabama be 10th in 2011??
 
So you need elite units to win championships, that is hardly shocking.

Miami was 15th on defense in yards per play last year. We have had a 2 complete buffoons in charge of the defense, it won't be hard to fix.
 
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and the reason for that was because we played our linebackers and corners 10 yard of the line of scrimmage to prevent the big plays. Hence the low yards per play ranking which means nothing because or defense was terrible.
 
I was going to post about defensive minded coaches but work kept getting in the way. If you look at our history of success and failure minus Golden and Randy because they were both in over their heads, defensive minded coaches have come in and laid the solid foundation for winning championships followed by offensive minded coaches that have returned things to rubble.
 
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Patterson here would return to his days of being the #1 D. Guy would have more talent than he would know what to do with and would be killing teams with a high power offense.
 
Miami's offense...

Points per game - 65th
Rushing offense - 113th
Red zone scoring percentage (TDs and FGs) - 72nd
Touchdown percentage in the red zone - 47%
Third down offense - 107th
Team passing efficiency (with a future early-round QB) - 56th

Both our offense and defense are broken. The defense is obviously worse off, but it's not like our offense is anywhere close to being even remotely ready to help us compete for anything meaningful.

People can question those campaigning for an offensive-minded hire like Herman. But it's another thing entirely for some to be vouching for a defensive-minded candidate like Charlie Strong, for example, whose actions ever since the day he arrived at Texas have shown that he doesn't seem to have the slightest clue what he's doing offensively at another Power 5 program.
 
I just want a good coach, period. Good coaches, regardless of specialty, find good assistants on both sides of the ball and produce strong units. From this list, Urban, Jimbo and Mack Brown are "offensive coaches" but employ good DCs and get good players. And Chizik, despite being a defensive coach, had a crap defense but killer offense due to having a strong OC (and paying for a star player, but that's neither here nor there.) I don't want a strictly offensive or defensive coach if they neglect the other side of the ball.
 
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People can question those campaigning for an offensive-minded hire like Herman.
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Houston is actually 17th in both offensive and defensive yards per play. That balance is one of the reasons I'm so high on Herman.
 
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