For those experts out there - Emory's arm strength Q?

[filmcane]

I feel like we've established that Emory has the leadership and smarts to lead the team, but it seems like there has been a little shade on his arm strength. I'm no expert on arm strength and it's clear even for amateur such as I that Cam has a stronger throwing arm than Emory, but my real question for the pros out there is - is his arm strength adequate to run a pass heavy O or do we HAVE to get another QB with a strong enough arm?

Personal opinion - I think his arm strength is enough to lead the O, but curious as to what you fellas think.....

 

[SPAMM]

He had a higher QBR than Cam earlier this season
Maybe players get bigger and stronger as they get older
Dorsey was not known for a cannon arm.
Check downs require presence not arm strength.

 

[DTP]

His arm is stronger than what I saw when we were recruiting him but it’s still below average. Quarterbacks don’t need rocket launcher arms but there is a minimum threshold to where a weaker arm will actually hurt you if you fall below that point. I don’t know if Emory is below that threshold. Offenses spread the field much wider today so it’s not just a matter of throwing vertically but being able to throw the ball horizontally with good enough quickness. If you can’t get the ball out quick enough on a WR screen, you’re not a starting caliber quarterback.

Check down Charlie’s don’t perform well enough to rely on in today’s game. It’s really had to find a good quarterback in college football with a below average arm. You better be one **** of an athlete/improviser if you don’t have a live arm.

 

[HurricanesR1]

Emory would be a fine QB for bro ball.

 

[Astcloud11]

For the negatives of poor arm strength, watch Quinn Ewers red zone snaps this year. He can not fit the ball in. Hopefully Emory has better strength

 

[Gransapo]

Portal QB and Nickel

 

[3FW]

His arm strength is fine. He’s accurate and processes decisions quicky and correctly. He is a good enough athlete. Until though he shows it consistently in a game, we won’t know if he is a 12 win QB or a 6. I think we’ll see him get 20 snaps against ISU.

Notre Dame is going to return a very good defense and that may not go so well.

 

[Dyalect79]

No one,.. is going to replace Ward. I’ll say it again for the people in the back.
NO ONE IS REPLACING WARD.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I feel like we've established that Emory has the leadership and smarts to lead the team, but it seems like there has been a little shade on his arm strength. I'm no expert on arm strength and it's clear even for amateur such as I that Cam has a stronger throwing arm than Emory, but my real question for the pros out there is - is his arm strength adequate to run a pass heavy O or do we HAVE to get another QB with a strong enough arm?

Personal opinion - I think his arm strength is enough to lead the O, but curious as to what you fellas think.....

I'm certainly not a football authority - and I see this question asked all the time.

Arm strength.

WTF difference does it make if the QB is a slow decision maker - if his vision is too focused - if he can't put the ball where it needs to be?

Just how many long 40 plus yard passes do QB's make per game?

I may have a rifle that will accurately reach out and touch someone at 800-plus meters - but if I can't actually hit the SOB - what difference does it make how far that bullet will go?

A .22 Long Rifle round can go just about a mile in distance. We don't even shoot at targets at half that range.

What we need is a QB that can perform multiple critical tasks extremely effective in the 20-40 yard range in a timely manner, on a regular basis - as opportunities become open.

Then we won't need a steady stream of Hail Mary's - which at least to my game watching over the years - do NOT win that many games.

Because if guys are doing their jobs just - WELL, then we don't have to rely on heroic accomplishments.

He wouldn't be a QB if he can't throw some fairly long passes - but I'd suggest accuracy and vision are much more important.

 

[423Hurricane]

We really don’t know what we have in Emory. In the games he played last year and considering all the circumstances, I think he performed fairly well. His team mates seem to really like him and that’s a plus in and of itself.

 

[pyhooya]

No one,.. is going to replace Ward. I’ll say it again for the people in the back.
NO ONE IS REPLACING WARD.

So we are going with out a QB this year.........

 

[Plymouth99]

His arm strength is fine. He’s accurate and processes decisions quicky and correctly. He is a good enough athlete. Until though he shows it consistently in a game, we won’t know if he is a 12 win QB or a 6. I think we’ll see him get 20 snaps against ISU.

Notre Dame is going to return a very good defense and that may not go so well.

Bill Walsh, "accuracy and the ability to make quick decisions are very important attributes." Arm not so much as the first two ...
I like #17.....

 

[305407cane]

He needs a perfect pocket cause he’s not throwing on the run and he’s not throwing off platform. Ceiling with Emory is probably 30 ppg

 

[UMFarArcher]

No one,.. is going to replace Ward. I’ll say it again for the people in the back.
NO ONE IS REPLACING WARD.

I note a lot of irreplaceable folks in cemetaries.

No one will duplicate Ward - but someone WILL play at QB next season - and I have this from a good, reliable source.

At times, I think we underachieved due to the team relying too much on Ward to carry the team - and he tried! He tried!

If everyone played balls out like Ward did - we'd be sitting in the cat seat right now.

But we didn't.

Coaches relied on Ward - and didn't fully do their job.

 

[Dyalect79]

So we are going with out a QB this year.........

Yall niggaz is clueless. All im saying is we gotta bring our expectations way down. We hope that Emory or whoever will be serviceable, thats it. After this season man, wtf gonna replace Can in the #1 offense, who?

 

[Dyalect79]

I note a lot of irreplaceable folks in cemetaries.

No one will duplicate Ward - but someone WILL play at QB next season - and I have this from a good, reliable source.

At times, I think we underachieved due to the team relying too much on Ward to carry the team - and he tried! He tried!

If everyone played balls out like Ward did - we'd be sitting in the cat seat right now.

But we didn't.

Coaches relied on Ward - and didn't fully do their job.

Well put.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

I'm certainly not a football authority - and I see this question asked all the time.

Arm strength.

WTF difference does it make if the QB is a slow decision maker - if his vision is too focused - if he can't put the ball where it needs to be?

Just how many long 40 plus yard passes do QB's make per game?

I may have a rifle that will accurately reach out and touch someone at 800-plus meters - but if I can't actually hit the SOB - what difference does it make how far that bullet will go?

A .22 Long Rifle round can go just about a mile in distance. We don't even shoot at targets at half that range.

What we need is a QB that can perform multiple critical tasks extremely effective in the 20-40 yard range in a timely manner, on a regular basis - as opportunities become open.

Then we won't need a steady stream of Hail Mary's - which at least to my game watching over the years - do NOT win that many games.

Because if guys are doing their jobs just - WELL, then we don't have to rely on heroic accomplishments.

He wouldn't be a QB if he can't throw some fairly long passes - but I'd suggest accuracy and vision are much more important.

The question of arm strength isn't about how far as QB can throw the ball. It's about how quickly the ball gets to it's intended target. Especially in the quick game (where fractions of a second matter) and the green zone (where passing windows open and close quickly), arm strength absolutely matters.

 

[UMFarArcher]

The question of arm strength isn't about how far as QB can throw the ball. It's about how quickly the ball gets to it's intended target. Especially in the quick game (where fractions of a second matter) and the green zone (where passing windows open and close quickly), arm strength absolutely matters.

In these quick games - would it not be best to have someone with a quick mind and quick play execution?

I've seen a lot of quick games - and that frequently means very little time for longer routes and longer play development.

I think we're saying the same basic thing - but the emphasis on "arm strength" tends of suggest something else.

I didn't care for a lot of our receiver routes this past season - and with only a couple exceptions - just lazy.

Speed is good, but super crisp stops, sharp gradients in breaking free of coverage is where teams get picked apart. That sharp foot plant breaks ankles. Gives a receiver three to five yards of clear space.

But I'm just a dumba** observer.

Have no idea of what I'm talking about . . .

 

[The canesman]

If he’s not ready by now he will never be ready.

 

[pyhooya]

Yall niggaz is clueless. All im saying is we gotta bring our expectations way down. We hope that Emory or whoever will be serviceable, thats it. After this season man, wtf gonna replace Can in the #1 offense, who?

I think everyone should know we are not going to have the same kind of offense. Cam had a great year and nobody is going to come in and duplicate that. Nothing will matter unless the defense is changed(meaning fire Guiry)