Coaching FG / 2 PT Decisions

[Brains]

1. 4th and 3 at GT 23....Take the points and kick the FG. Just over 2 minutes left in the half. We get ball to start 2nd half.

2. 4th and 1 at GT 39...Going for it was correct call. Thats a 56-57 yard FG. Not a gimmie, but certainly with Borregales range. We haven't been stopped all year running Martinez or Fletcher on 4th and 1, but Martinez makes it look easy. Wrong play call and then wrong personnel for that play. I said it before, but Martinez should not have been on the sidelines on that play. Egregious coaching decision.

3. 4th and 16 from GT 22...Take the points. Puts us down 9 points. Still over 10 minutes left in the game. We would only need TD and FG to win. Would need to stop GT at least twice in those 10 minutes, which we actually did. I know, shocking it may be.

Terrible coaching overthinking everything in those all 3 of those situations.

Exactly

 

[Calinative]

1. 4th and 3 at GT 23....Take the points and kick the FG. Just over 2 minutes left in the half. We get ball to start 2nd half.

2. 4th and 1 at GT 39...Going for it was correct call. Thats a 56-57 yard FG. Not a gimmie, but certainly with Borregales range. We haven't been stopped all year running Martinez or Fletcher on 4th and 1, but Martinez makes it look easy. Wrong play call and then wrong personnel for that play. I said it before, but Martinez should not have been on the sidelines on that play. Egregious coaching decision.

3. 4th and 16 from GT 22...Take the points. Puts us down 9 points. Still over 10 minutes left in the game. We would only need TD and FG to win. Would need to stop GT at least twice in those 10 minutes, which we actually did. I know, shocking it may be.

Terrible coaching overthinking everything in those all 3 of those situations.

Lol @ saying kick a fg to go down 9 in the 4th quarter as making sense. That is not overthinking anything, except doing extremely basic math. Kicking the FG turns a 2 score game into a 2 score game where the other team had been running all over our ******* Defense wasting time and limiting our posesssions. Not a ******* single person on this board would be doing anything but ****ting on Mario for kicking a FG there.

The first 4th down yall can ***** about all you want but ultimately if we get it you're on here saying it was an obvious good decision. That was a toss up decision. Given we have an elite offense and we had guys pretty much open all day long, that isn't a bad decision. The play calls on the other hand...

The second 4th down was also a clearly fine decision.

The worst decision Mario made yesterday - and it isn't close - was taking the timeout coming off the 2 minute warning when they punted. Coming off the 2min warning they should have been excessively prepared for them to go for it or run a fake, so why we needed to burn a potentially crucial Timeout was ridiculous.

 

[FreddyCane]

He’s just like us fans and scared crap less about this horrendous defense. You see he called a completely different type of game against FSU and kicked a bunch of FG’s because he knows they can’t score on anyone.

 

[Stats02]

Lol @ saying kick a fg to go down 9 in the 4th quarter as making sense. That is not overthinking anything, except doing extremely basic math. Kicking the FG turns a 2 score game into a 2 score game where the other team had been running all over our ******* Defense wasting time and limiting our posesssions. Not a ******* single person on this board would be doing anything but ****ting on Mario for kicking a FG there.

The first 4th down yall can ***** about all you want but ultimately if we get it you're on here saying it was an obvious good decision. That was a toss up decision. Given we have an elite offense and we had guys pretty much open all day long, that isn't a bad decision. The play calls on the other hand...

The second 4th down was also a clearly fine decision.

The worst decision Mario made yesterday - and it isn't close - was taking the timeout coming off the 2 minute warning when they punted. Coming off the 2min warning they should have been excessively prepared for them to go for it or run a fake, so why we needed to burn a potentially crucial Timeout was ridiculous.

Yes, going for it on that 4th and 1, the second 4th down, was the correct call. We all agree on that. Wrong play call and wrong personnel. Thats all.

On the third 4th down (4th and 16) Kicking a FG to go down 9 should have been the correct call. There was still over 10 minutes left in the game. Turns into a 2 score game, but one of those can now be a FG. Also, it was 4th and 16. If the situation was 4th and short, going for it would have been the correct call. We will just agree to disagree on this one.

 

[ddann]

The 11 minute drive should have told him to take the field goal. Not the opposite.

Analytics tell you in that moment to go for it...just defies logic and my common sense. Take the points. Especially in a game that is going to be played in the phone booth or the backyard. Just get the points and move on. Needed the caveman instincts there...which is why Brent Key beats this guy.

This, this, this, and…this.

 

[ddann]

You have a point. Put Mario has been doing that since he got here and the other CISers just argue back "FGs aren't going to win the game." But I don't think they are good at math.

I couldn’t tell you who the current head of the CiS math department is even if you put a gun to my head.

 

[JASONCOEM]

First fourth down attempt I don’t think anybody had a problem with. But going for two I get it mathematically it looked to be the ideal situation but the percentages were low but fourth and 16 that was just absolutely stupid. No way you go for fourth and 16 you take the points. We didn’t have much momentum yesterday, but going for two and not getting it swings the momentum in their favor fourth and 16 extremely low percent.. just bad, coaching, all around offense and defense and head coach.. Mario seem to put some of the passing game was on drop passes, but frankly, Cam missed numerous open receivers, he was definitely off today.

 

[jwcane97]

1. 4th and 3 at GT 23....Take the points and kick the FG. Just over 2 minutes left in the half. We get ball to start 2nd half.

2. 4th and 1 at GT 39...Going for it was correct call. Thats a 56-57 yard FG. Not a gimmie, but certainly with Borregales range. We haven't been stopped all year running Martinez or Fletcher on 4th and 1, but Martinez makes it look easy. Wrong play call and then wrong personnel for that play. I said it before, but Martinez should not have been on the sidelines on that play. Egregious coaching decision.

3. 4th and 16 from GT 22...Take the points. Puts us down 9 points. Still over 10 minutes left in the game. We would only need TD and FG to win. Would need to stop GT at least twice in those 10 minutes, which we actually did. I know, shocking it may be.

Terrible coaching overthinking everything in those all 3 of those situations.

Technically you wouldn't be down 9 though.

1. Kick the field goal with 2 minutes in the half, go down 14-13.

2. They go up 21-13 in Q3, and you go anyway at 4th and 1, so it stays 21-13

3. You get to 21-20 in Q3 with the Horton TD and you kick the extra point.,

4. The FG at 4th and 16 if you hit it makes it 28-23. and so assuming you get the Restropo TD, that is 29-28.

All should of, could of, would of and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle... Hindsight is 20/20, but this feels like one more notch in the WTF are you doing belt.

 

[scrantoncane]

I thought there was way too much time left to not take 3 when it was 4th and 16.

The other 2, you go for it.