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Tetragrammaton Cane said:
I get it: there’s a LOT of posters just like you … so of course they would find this type of thread interesting. But it reeks of excuse-making. It’s just that “bags”, or “diva” (crybabies word, not mine) SFL recruits, or the SEC, or the media/ESPN were not the reasons Miami lost to Duke, BC, UVA and GT last year. And they’re not the reasons Miami has only won one Coastal title. But, since it makes you feel better, knock yourself out.
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5 of the 6 schools Miami lost to are less "baggy" than we are.
We lost because we were an average team at best.
I'm not one for making excuses.

Although skeptical about this Fed thing,
I would like to see the Bama's and UGA's of the world squirm a little.
 
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mirvin88 said:
Nope. Dude, you honestly think they'd have a case saying "oh we didn't know about income taxes".
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Someone whose never had a taxable income tells a jury “I didn’t know you had to pay tax on a present”.

How do you prove otherwise?


Tax Fraud is an illegal intentional attempt to evade tax laws or defraud the IRS. It is a general term with various meanings and is very hard to prove because the government doesn't have proof that the taxpayer knowingly cheated the government out of taxrevenue.

Besides, what’s the point? The feds are gonna prosecute a bunch of impoverished people rather than use them as witnesses against the bigger fish?

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1mg of Epi said:
Someone whose never had a taxable income tells a jury “I didn’t know you had to pay tax on a present”.

How do you prove otherwise?


Tax Fraud is an illegal intentional attempt to evade tax laws or defraud the IRS. It is a general term with various meanings and is very hard to prove because the government doesn't have proof that the taxpayer knowingly cheated the government out of taxrevenue.

Besides, what’s the point? The feds are gonna prosecute a bunch of impoverished people rather than use them as witnesses against the bigger fish?

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Look, I understand you are TRYING to participate, but you are quoting some random sentence out of context.

First, there would be CLEAR non-reporting of income. That is also a crime.

Second, the words "tax fraud" may include the non-reporting of income, but can also extend to lots of other types of actions that involve judgment or valuation.

Not reporting the income is the crime that the recipients committed. Not filing a gift tax return or claiming the business deduction (or, more to the point, filing a 1099) is the crime committed by the payor.

Stop googling "tax fraud" and cutting-and-pasting random sentences.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Look, I understand you are TRYING to participate, but you are quoting some random sentence out of context.

First, there would be CLEAR non-reporting of income. That is also a crime.

Second, the words "tax fraud" may include the non-reporting of income, but can also extend to lots of other types of actions that involve judgment or valuation.

Not reporting the income is the crime that the recipients committed. Not filing a gift tax return or claiming the business deduction (or, more to the point, filing a 1099) is the crime committed by the payor.

Stop googling "tax fraud" and cutting-and-pasting random sentences.
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Exactly
 
Drewny1 said:
Ignorance of the law is not a plausible defense tho
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Actually that’s not true. From mueller report:

“On the facts here, the government would unlikely be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the June 9 meeting participants had general knowledge that their conduct was unlawful," the report reads. "The investigation has not developed evidence that the participants in the meeting were familiar with the foreign-contribution ban or the application of federal law to the relevant factual context”
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Look, I understand you are TRYING to participate, but you are quoting some random sentence out of context.

First, there would be CLEAR non-reporting of income. That is also a crime.

Second, the words "tax fraud" may include the non-reporting of income, but can also extend to lots of other types of actions that involve judgment or valuation.

Not reporting the income is the crime that the recipients committed. Not filing a gift tax return or claiming the business deduction (or, more to the point, filing a 1099) is the crime committed by the payor.

Stop googling "tax fraud" and cutting-and-pasting random sentences.
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I understand you TRYING to come across as if you have any knowledge of this subject. But like me, you’re just throwing shlt against a wall. So....

Stop copying pasting snippets of a law. Left out the “knowingly committing a crime part”.
 
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DTP said:
Yeah. Go ahead and tell the IRS you didn't pay your taxes because you didn't know it was illegal to not pay your taxes. See how that turns out for you.
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Thats what I said earlier...IRS is coming to get theirs, one way or the other..
 
DTP said:
Yeah. Go ahead and tell the IRS you didn't pay your taxes because you didn't know it was illegal to not pay your taxes. See how that turns out for you.
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And not everybody gets the Notice of Compromise...
 
caneinorlando said:
Thats what I said earlier...IRS is coming to get theirs, one way or the other..
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Exactly. They may not throw the offending party right in jail but they will give them the opportunity to make all unpaid payments plus late fees through a convenient "payment plan". You know the type of plan where they take X amount of money out of your paycheck before you ever get to see it.
 
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1mg of Epi said:
Actually that’s not true. From mueller report:

“On the facts here, the government would unlikely be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the June 9 meeting participants had general knowledge that their conduct was unlawful," the report reads. "The investigation has not developed evidence that the participants in the meeting were familiar with the foreign-contribution ban or the application of federal law to the relevant factual context”
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the mueller report is a farce and a joke to any federal prosecutor. mueller wrote a political document
 
DTP said:
Exactly. They may not throw the offending party right in jail but they will give them the opportunity to make all unpaid payments plus late fees through a convenient "payment plan". You know the type of plan where they take X amount of money out of your paycheck before you ever get to see it.
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Yup...
 
1mg of Epi said:
I understand you TRYING to come across as if you have any knowledge of this subject. But like me, you’re just throwing shlt against a wall. So....

Stop copying pasting snippets of a law. Left out the “knowingly committing a crime part”.
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You ignorant buffoon, I'm a tax attorney. So, yeah, I have actual knowledge of this subject. And unlike you, I am not just throwing **** against a wall.
 
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1mg of Epi said:
Actually that’s not true. From mueller report:

“On the facts here, the government would unlikely be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the June 9 meeting participants had general knowledge that their conduct was unlawful," the report reads. "The investigation has not developed evidence that the participants in the meeting were familiar with the foreign-contribution ban or the application of federal law to the relevant factual context”
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Everyone has "general knowledge" of the IRS.
 
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