Evolution of the Miami Hurricane Fanbase (Offensive Philosop

[TP801]

I just don't want read option, QB running all the time offense.. That's not the brand of football I want to see here.. Other than that, I don't care what they do. Put up points. That's it.

Why not?

 

[WestEndZone]

I just don't want read option, QB running all the time offense.. That's not the brand of football I want to see here.. Other than that, I don't care what they do. Put up points. That's it.

Why not?

I can see his point. It would just be weird. Miami, as we know them, has always been a program that runs current (at the time) pro style everything; even back in 1983 when we ran a split back offense and a 50 slant defense.

Personally I think what Gus Malzahn is doing is awesome, but that's a whole other conversation, lol.

 

[rudebuddha]

Didn't we win two National Championships running the spread under Erickson?

People were going apeshiit about this Appleseed coming in and changing us from a Pro Style to some gimmick offense, but I remember it working out quite well.

Most teams started using spread offenses because you didn't need top talent across the board to run it.

I like our various sets. We run 4-5 wide, 2 tight end, traditional pro set.

Keeps defenses guessing.

The key is, obviously, using the best set that maximizes your talent.
The good thing is that we are incredibly talented right now across the offensive board, that we can run any kind of offense we want.

 

[DaU83]

I just don't want read option, QB running all the time offense.. That's not the brand of football I want to see here.. Other than that, I don't care what they do. Put up points. That's it.

I don't want a QB read option either, but I wouldn't mind our QB linking up in the Gun for 90% of the snaps and just slingin' it around the field with the occasional (20 snaps) hand-off to Duke/Yearby/Gus.

I'm not a huge fan of running from the shotgun, something about it that i don't like, couldn't really tell you what..

Been thinking about it, is because I feel the rb doesn't get as good momentum running from shotgun sets

 

[DaU83]

I just don't want read option, QB running all the time offense.. That's not the brand of football I want to see here.. Other than that, I don't care what they do. Put up points. That's it.

Why not?

I just don't like offensive systems where the QB is expected to run a large percentage of the time, that's not what I want to see 12+ games a year.

 

[Gatorhater]

Didn't we win two National Championships running the spread under Erickson?

People were going apeshiit about this Appleseed coming in and changing us from a Pro Style to some gimmick offense, but I remember it working out quite well.

Most teams started using spread offenses because you didn't need top talent across the board to run it.

I like our various sets. We run 4-5 wide, 2 tight end, traditional pro set.

Keeps defenses guessing.

The key is, obviously, using the best set that maximizes your talent.
The good thing is that we are incredibly talented right now across the offensive board, that we can run any kind of offense we want.

When Howard got here, college football was dominated by the option offense. The wishbone or Nebraska option(very much the "new" read option". Howard brought the pro set to THE U and we changed college football with it. JJ gave us our 4-3 defense and destroyed the wishbone. Now the option has made returned in some new forms, but the team most like THE U, Bama, continues to dominate college football. Our problem has been coaching and lack of proper QB. Dennis brought the one back offense with him from the west coast. It was new and worked well when he had the
"right" one back. It did have issues, problems, and weaknesses. JJ has left him superior players and he was blessed with two outstanding QBs, one of which on a Heisman. Our pro set drop back will be fine once we have a good QB. I will grant that Berlin was perfect for the shotgun and not our drop back.

Saban does not have JJ's 4-3 aggressive to combat the options of today. I am certain that our old defenses would destroy all these fancy option offensives like it did before. How did the read option do against Ray in the super bowl? He learned how to stop it at THE U. I believe he quote after the game was something to the effect that stopping the option was not hard.

 

[Republicane]

OP would really no longer be a Miami fan if they went to the spread? Who gives a ****? My stance is pretty simple: I'm in favor of Miami running an offense that scores copious amounts of points. I am less in favor of offenses that don't score a lot of points. That's all I care about. If you're really picky about how the ball gets into the endzone then I don't know what to tell you.

Obviously there are offenses that I think are more likely and less likely to get that done, but as long as points go on the board I don't care if UM is running Navy's triple option, June Jones' mid 2000's Hawaii air raid offense or something balanced in between.

Points. That's it.

 

[AsylumGodfather]

What I would like to see is the offense to be able to line up and run smash mouth football like they did against UNC when they need to. I was hoping they would do it against Louisville in the bowl game especially when they were doing that stand up DLine bull****. Sometimes I think the OC tries to get to cute with the finesse zone blocking run plays when some good ol power I will work just fine.

Just my opinion

 

[WestEndZone]

What I would like to see is the offense to be able to line up and run smash mouth football like they did against UNC when they need to. I was hoping they would do it against Louisville in the bowl game especially when they were doing that stand up DLine bull****. Sometimes I think the OC tries to get to cute with the finesse zone blocking run plays when some good ol power I will work just fine.

Just my opinion

I'm with you there. I had a big problem last year in how we handled Duke's injury. If we Duke is healthy, then I have no problem being an outside zone or "stretch" team. That guy will pretty much always get a yard for us. When he went down, we didn't have a back on the roster with his skill set. We should have converted to a "power" (referring to man blocking schemes: double-down, kick, lead) team, like how we finished the UNC game. It made sense that we continued having success with our counter game (with Crawford). Counter is under power blocking principles.

I'm sure they have a logical reason why they never made a shift. Maybe they were too invested already. I know that power teams spend a tremendous amount of time teaching complex line calls. A team like Stanford--the quintessential power team right now--runs power to almost any gap they want, based on the defense's front. You almost need that kind of complexity to survive as a power team right now.

But that problem would have been solved with one more legit RB on the roster.

The answer always lies in recruiting.

 

[Coach Macho]

I've been lobbying for the spread around here for years.

There's not a team that could cover Miami if they ran more 10 and 11 personnel.

My logic behind that opinion...

1. When we go 10 personnel it forces defenses to sub in extra DB's. Now we have a kid like Dorsett, Waters, Coley, etc... in the slot and the defense is covering him with their 3rd or 4th best DB. Mismatches all day. Miami's recruiting ground is so fertile with WR talent that we're one of the only teams in the country that can have a slot WR who's actually good enough to be the #1 WR at most schools in the nation. A kid like Coley, who would be most program's #1 WR, could be our slot. Now he's being covered by the defense's 3rd/4th best DB. Then you got guys like Dorsett, Scott, Waters, etc...on the outside.

2. An offense like that would be fun and it would score a bunch of points. Skill players from South Florida would be lining up to play here. A team's scheme should always reflect the school's surroundings. South Florida is a spread area. The 7-on-7 **** is HUGE here and most teams run spread. There's tons of spread players down here, from 5'10" 195lb scat backs to 5'9" 185lb slot WR's who are a ***** to cover in space. WVU had a bunch of success with some of our South FLA spread players.

3. Miami wouldn't have to search far and wide for QB's who could play under center, Linemen who can put their hand in the ground and maul people and Fullbacks who can demolish Linebackers. We also wouldn't necessarily have to search for stud TE's who can do it all. We can recruit more kids who are in the 240lb range to play TE/H-Back. Legit Pro-Style TE's are very hard to find IMO, especially in South Florida. We could stock our shelves in our own backyard as opposed to searching far and wide for the ingredients you need for a successful Pro-Style. People fail to realize that the majority of the players that made our old Pro-Style work weren't from South Florida.

4. When Jacory Harris was here I specifically remember struggling in certain games, being down by a couple scores, going to 10 personnel and marching down the field with ease. Any time we were down late in the game we would spread the ball out and march right down the field. Nobody could cover Benjamin and company. I would watch the game and SMH like "Why don't we do this all game?"

 

[The Dude]

I've been lobbying for the spread around here for years.

There's not a team that could cover Miami if they ran more 10 and 11 personnel.

My logic behind that opinion...

1. When we go 10 personnel it forces defenses to sub in extra DB's. Now we have a kid like Dorsett, Waters, Coley, etc... in the slot and the defense is covering him with their 3rd or 4th best DB. Mismatches all day. Miami's recruiting ground is so fertile with WR talent that we're one of the only teams in the country that can have a slot WR who's actually good enough to be the #1 WR at most schools in the nation. A kid like Coley, who would be most program's #1 WR, could be our slot. Now he's being covered by the defense's 3rd/4th best DB. Then you got guys like Dorsett, Scott, Waters, etc...on the outside.

2. An offense like that would be fun and it would score a bunch of points. Skill players from South Florida would be lining up to play here. A team's scheme should always reflect the school's surroundings. South Florida is a spread area. The 7-on-7 **** is HUGE here and most teams run spread. There's tons of spread players down here, from 5'10" 195lb scat backs to 5'9" 185lb slot WR's who are a ***** to cover in space. WVU had a bunch of success with some of our South FLA spread players.

3. Miami wouldn't have to search far and wide for QB's who could play under center, Linemen who can put their hand in the ground and maul people and Fullbacks who can demolish Linebackers. We also wouldn't necessarily have to search for stud TE's who can do it all. We can recruit more kids who are in the 240lb range to play TE/H-Back. Legit Pro-Style TE's are very hard to find IMO, especially in South Florida. We could stock our shelves in our own backyard as opposed to searching far and wide for the ingredients you need for a successful Pro-Style. People fail to realize that the majority of the players that made our old Pro-Style work weren't from South Florida.

4. When Jacory Harris was here I specifically remember struggling in certain games, being down by a couple scores, going to 10 personnel and marching down the field with ease. Any time we were down late in the game we would spread the ball out and march right down the field. Nobody could cover Benjamin and company. I would watch the game and SMH like "Why don't we do this all game?"

Agree with everything you said, except your first point.

Coley is the most lethal of our WR, and no matter where you line him up, opposing defenses #1 DB will cover him. Your point still remains, there is going to be a mismatch somewhere when you keep putting SF receivers out there 4 or 5 at a time

 

[Coach Macho]

I've been lobbying for the spread around here for years.

There's not a team that could cover Miami if they ran more 10 and 11 personnel.

My logic behind that opinion...

1. When we go 10 personnel it forces defenses to sub in extra DB's. Now we have a kid like Dorsett, Waters, Coley, etc... in the slot and the defense is covering him with their 3rd or 4th best DB. Mismatches all day. Miami's recruiting ground is so fertile with WR talent that we're one of the only teams in the country that can have a slot WR who's actually good enough to be the #1 WR at most schools in the nation. A kid like Coley, who would be most program's #1 WR, could be our slot. Now he's being covered by the defense's 3rd/4th best DB. Then you got guys like Dorsett, Scott, Waters, etc...on the outside.

2. An offense like that would be fun and it would score a bunch of points. Skill players from South Florida would be lining up to play here. A team's scheme should always reflect the school's surroundings. South Florida is a spread area. The 7-on-7 **** is HUGE here and most teams run spread. There's tons of spread players down here, from 5'10" 195lb scat backs to 5'9" 185lb slot WR's who are a ***** to cover in space. WVU had a bunch of success with some of our South FLA spread players.

3. Miami wouldn't have to search far and wide for QB's who could play under center, Linemen who can put their hand in the ground and maul people and Fullbacks who can demolish Linebackers. We also wouldn't necessarily have to search for stud TE's who can do it all. We can recruit more kids who are in the 240lb range to play TE/H-Back. Legit Pro-Style TE's are very hard to find IMO, especially in South Florida. We could stock our shelves in our own backyard as opposed to searching far and wide for the ingredients you need for a successful Pro-Style. People fail to realize that the majority of the players that made our old Pro-Style work weren't from South Florida.

4. When Jacory Harris was here I specifically remember struggling in certain games, being down by a couple scores, going to 10 personnel and marching down the field with ease. Any time we were down late in the game we would spread the ball out and march right down the field. Nobody could cover Benjamin and company. I would watch the game and SMH like "Why don't we do this all game?"

Agree with everything you said, except your first point.

Coley is the most lethal of our WR, and no matter where you line him up, opposing defenses #1 DB will cover him. Your point still remains, there is going to be a mismatch somewhere when you keep putting SF receivers out there 4 or 5 at a time

They can only put their #1 DB on him if they're playing man coverage. If the DC calls a zone coverage and we come out of the huddle with Coley at the slot there's not much they can do. They're not gonna shuffle their whole secondary around. DC's don't put their best CB at the Nickel position and play zone. Now if they're gonna put their best DB on the slot and play man then be my guest. Good luck. LOL

 

[FG305]

I've been lobbying for the spread around here for years.

There's not a team that could cover Miami if they ran more 10 and 11 personnel.

My logic behind that opinion...

1. When we go 10 personnel it forces defenses to sub in extra DB's. Now we have a kid like Dorsett, Waters, Coley, etc... in the slot and the defense is covering him with their 3rd or 4th best DB. Mismatches all day. Miami's recruiting ground is so fertile with WR talent that we're one of the only teams in the country that can have a slot WR who's actually good enough to be the #1 WR at most schools in the nation. A kid like Coley, who would be most program's #1 WR, could be our slot. Now he's being covered by the defense's 3rd/4th best DB. Then you got guys like Dorsett, Scott, Waters, etc...on the outside.

2. An offense like that would be fun and it would score a bunch of points. Skill players from South Florida would be lining up to play here. A team's scheme should always reflect the school's surroundings. South Florida is a spread area. The 7-on-7 **** is HUGE here and most teams run spread. There's tons of spread players down here, from 5'10" 195lb scat backs to 5'9" 185lb slot WR's who are a **** to cover in space. WVU had a bunch of success with some of our South FLA spread players.

3. Miami wouldn't have to search far and wide for QB's who could play under center, Linemen who can put their hand in the ground and maul people and Fullbacks who can demolish Linebackers. We also wouldn't necessarily have to search for stud TE's who can do it all. We can recruit more kids who are in the 240lb range to play TE/H-Back. Legit Pro-Style TE's are very hard to find IMO, especially in South Florida. We could stock our shelves in our own backyard as opposed to searching far and wide for the ingredients you need for a successful Pro-Style. People fail to realize that the majority of the players that made our old Pro-Style work weren't from South Florida.

4. When Jacory Harris was here I specifically remember struggling in certain games, being down by a couple scores, going to 10 personnel and marching down the field with ease. Any time we were down late in the game we would spread the ball out and march right down the field. Nobody could cover Benjamin and company. I would watch the game and SMH like "Why don't we do this all game?"

Agree with everything you said, except your first point.

Coley is the most lethal of our WR, and no matter where you line him up, opposing defenses #1 DB will cover him. Your point still remains, there is going to be a mismatch somewhere when you keep putting SF receivers out there 4 or 5 at a time

Last year, Bridgewater throwing to Coley, Watkins, Cooper and Greene....Yeah, I can fvk with that.

 

[CoCaneHead]

we should switch to a spread... i think the athletes we have would perform better under a spread..

 

[WestEndZone]

I've been lobbying for the spread around here for years.

There's not a team that could cover Miami if they ran more 10 and 11 personnel.

My logic behind that opinion...

1. When we go 10 personnel it forces defenses to sub in extra DB's. Now we have a kid like Dorsett, Waters, Coley, etc... in the slot and the defense is covering him with their 3rd or 4th best DB. Mismatches all day. Miami's recruiting ground is so fertile with WR talent that we're one of the only teams in the country that can have a slot WR who's actually good enough to be the #1 WR at most schools in the nation. A kid like Coley, who would be most program's #1 WR, could be our slot. Now he's being covered by the defense's 3rd/4th best DB. Then you got guys like Dorsett, Scott, Waters, etc...on the outside.

2. An offense like that would be fun and it would score a bunch of points. Skill players from South Florida would be lining up to play here. A team's scheme should always reflect the school's surroundings. South Florida is a spread area. The 7-on-7 **** is HUGE here and most teams run spread. There's tons of spread players down here, from 5'10" 195lb scat backs to 5'9" 185lb slot WR's who are a **** to cover in space. WVU had a bunch of success with some of our South FLA spread players.

3. Miami wouldn't have to search far and wide for QB's who could play under center, Linemen who can put their hand in the ground and maul people and Fullbacks who can demolish Linebackers. We also wouldn't necessarily have to search for stud TE's who can do it all. We can recruit more kids who are in the 240lb range to play TE/H-Back. Legit Pro-Style TE's are very hard to find IMO, especially in South Florida. We could stock our shelves in our own backyard as opposed to searching far and wide for the ingredients you need for a successful Pro-Style. People fail to realize that the majority of the players that made our old Pro-Style work weren't from South Florida.

4. When Jacory Harris was here I specifically remember struggling in certain games, being down by a couple scores, going to 10 personnel and marching down the field with ease. Any time we were down late in the game we would spread the ball out and march right down the field. Nobody could cover Benjamin and company. I would watch the game and SMH like "Why don't we do this all game?"

In short, I agree with you to, but maybe not to the same extent. I think you're proposing something in the Mike Leach model. For me that's a bit overboard.

Your strongest point was regarding recruiting under that system. I'm curious to see what recruiting looks like under that system too. It could be powerful stuff.

You bring up valid points about not having to look for certain types of players. But you need to remember that we're (south florida) just as much of a running back factory; and our team need to reflect that too. I think we still need to recruit nationally. It's irresponsible not to. We don't even recruit fullbacks right now. We haven't had that though a time finding tight ends. We have a ton right now. I think what we're doing with tight ends right now is unique to much of the country.

I think your perception of our offense is a little off. We don't even have a fullback on the roster right now. Walter Tucker is not a fullback. Lol. From the spring film it looks like we've been rotating around 12, 11, and 10.

Beyond the potential recruiting power of your theory, I have a hard time letting go of a run based offense in lieu of a finesse game. If we want to focus on 3 WR sets, then I would have to do something along the lines of what Auburn is doing.

I have access to all22.com and I think I've watched Auburn's entire season 2 times over. Lol.

 

[TreOFive]

just win...I dont care if we run fumble rooski 20 times..if it gets the job done im in

 

[Coach Macho]

I've been lobbying for the spread around here for years.

There's not a team that could cover Miami if they ran more 10 and 11 personnel.

My logic behind that opinion...

1. When we go 10 personnel it forces defenses to sub in extra DB's. Now we have a kid like Dorsett, Waters, Coley, etc... in the slot and the defense is covering him with their 3rd or 4th best DB. Mismatches all day. Miami's recruiting ground is so fertile with WR talent that we're one of the only teams in the country that can have a slot WR who's actually good enough to be the #1 WR at most schools in the nation. A kid like Coley, who would be most program's #1 WR, could be our slot. Now he's being covered by the defense's 3rd/4th best DB. Then you got guys like Dorsett, Scott, Waters, etc...on the outside.

2. An offense like that would be fun and it would score a bunch of points. Skill players from South Florida would be lining up to play here. A team's scheme should always reflect the school's surroundings. South Florida is a spread area. The 7-on-7 **** is HUGE here and most teams run spread. There's tons of spread players down here, from 5'10" 195lb scat backs to 5'9" 185lb slot WR's who are a **** to cover in space. WVU had a bunch of success with some of our South FLA spread players.

3. Miami wouldn't have to search far and wide for QB's who could play under center, Linemen who can put their hand in the ground and maul people and Fullbacks who can demolish Linebackers. We also wouldn't necessarily have to search for stud TE's who can do it all. We can recruit more kids who are in the 240lb range to play TE/H-Back. Legit Pro-Style TE's are very hard to find IMO, especially in South Florida. We could stock our shelves in our own backyard as opposed to searching far and wide for the ingredients you need for a successful Pro-Style. People fail to realize that the majority of the players that made our old Pro-Style work weren't from South Florida.

4. When Jacory Harris was here I specifically remember struggling in certain games, being down by a couple scores, going to 10 personnel and marching down the field with ease. Any time we were down late in the game we would spread the ball out and march right down the field. Nobody could cover Benjamin and company. I would watch the game and SMH like "Why don't we do this all game?"

In short, I agree with you to, but maybe not to the same extent. I think you're proposing something in the Mike Leach model. For me that's a bit overboard.

Your strongest point was regarding recruiting under that system. I'm curious to see what recruiting looks like under that system too. It could be powerful stuff.

You bring up valid points about not having to look for certain types of players. But you need to remember that we're (south florida) just as much of a running back factory; and our team need to reflect that too. I think we still need to recruit nationally. It's irresponsible not to. We don't even recruit fullbacks right now. We haven't had that though a time finding tight ends. We have a ton right now. I think what we're doing with tight ends right now is unique to much of the country.

I think your perception of our offense is a little off. We don't even have a fullback on the roster right now. Walter Tucker is not a fullback. Lol. From the spring film it looks like we've been rotating around 12, 11, and 10.

Beyond the potential recruiting power of your theory, I have a hard time letting go of a run based offense in lieu of a finesse game. If we want to focus on 3 WR sets, then I would have to do something along the lines of what Auburn is doing.

I have access to all22.com and I think I've watched Auburn's entire season 2 times over. Lol.

Nah, I'm not saying I want the Leach offense, I'm just saying that I'd like to see a lot more 3 and 4 WR sets.

Over the years South Florida has become more and more of a finesse area. I have no problem finessing defenses to the tune of 45 points per game. It doesn't mean we have to be finesse on defense. Also, utilizing more 10 and 11 personnel doesn't mean we can't run the ball.

Yeah, South Florida is a RB area but guys like McGahee ain't falling out of trees anymore down here. It's more guys like Duke, Cook and Yearby. (i.e. your typical scat RB's)

And I disagree about TE. Yeah, we have a bunch of them on the roster right now but how many of them are legit threats? When's the last time we recruited a legit threat at TE? If you run TE sets then all you do is bring extra defenders in the box. Well if your TE isn't a legit pass-catching threat then you can't make the defense pay for bringing that Safety down. As a DC I love nothing more than playing against a 21 personnel that doesn't have a legit pass-catching TE. It's cake.

If you're playing against Miami and they're running the spread, it puts your defense in a dilemma. Duke and Yearby are racking 5 yards a pop and you wanna bring an extra defender in the box. Well then how do you recover Miami's three WR's out of single-high?

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I am not tied to a specific offense, but I do love to see one run over people when they can. I hate when a nice drive it going and a team goes away from what works for the home run and then ends up punting. Always a time and place for the money shot, but knowing that time and place is the key.

Ain't that the truth.


As much as I am in the "Just Win at All Costs" mindset in terms of the offense, it still brings me nostalgia seeing a team like Bama being able to run it on 3rd and 3 and know that 98% of the time, they are going to pick up the first down. That used to be the Canes, and that is why I struggled for so long to fight change.

Now, if they throw a go-route on 4th and inches, I don't care, as long as they pick up the first down.

I'm with you. I think my comment applies in reverse as well -- if we are passing all over a team, don't just run for the sake of running, make them stop what you are doing first. Sneak in a few run plays as part of the dominance, or to run the clock out at key spots, but stay with what is working.

THIS. How many times have we seen an OC get "cute" when something is working? Makes me want to choke puppies.

This thread is for discussion of the Canes offense only. Not about animal abuse.

Try to stay exactly on the precise topic. Thx.

 

[ghost2]

I am not tied to a specific offense, but I do love to see one run over people when they can. I hate when a nice drive it going and a team goes away from what works for the home run and then ends up punting. Always a time and place for the money shot, but knowing that time and place is the key.

Ain't that the truth.


As much as I am in the "Just Win at All Costs" mindset in terms of the offense, it still brings me nostalgia seeing a team like Bama being able to run it on 3rd and 3 and know that 98% of the time, they are going to pick up the first down. That used to be the Canes, and that is why I struggled for so long to fight change.

Now, if they throw a go-route on 4th and inches, I don't care, as long as they pick up the first down.

I'm with you. I think my comment applies in reverse as well -- if we are passing all over a team, don't just run for the sake of running, make them stop what you are doing first. Sneak in a few run plays as part of the dominance, or to run the clock out at key spots, but stay with what is working.

THIS. How many times have we seen an OC get "cute" when something is working? Makes me want to choke puppies.

This thread is for discussion of the Canes offense only. Not about animal abuse.

Try to stay exactly on the precise topic. Thx.

LOL touché!

 

[WestEndZone]

I've been lobbying for the spread around here for years.

There's not a team that could cover Miami if they ran more 10 and 11 personnel.

My logic behind that opinion...

1. When we go 10 personnel it forces defenses to sub in extra DB's. Now we have a kid like Dorsett, Waters, Coley, etc... in the slot and the defense is covering him with their 3rd or 4th best DB. Mismatches all day. Miami's recruiting ground is so fertile with WR talent that we're one of the only teams in the country that can have a slot WR who's actually good enough to be the #1 WR at most schools in the nation. A kid like Coley, who would be most program's #1 WR, could be our slot. Now he's being covered by the defense's 3rd/4th best DB. Then you got guys like Dorsett, Scott, Waters, etc...on the outside.

2. An offense like that would be fun and it would score a bunch of points. Skill players from South Florida would be lining up to play here. A team's scheme should always reflect the school's surroundings. South Florida is a spread area. The 7-on-7 **** is HUGE here and most teams run spread. There's tons of spread players down here, from 5'10" 195lb scat backs to 5'9" 185lb slot WR's who are a **** to cover in space. WVU had a bunch of success with some of our South FLA spread players.

3. Miami wouldn't have to search far and wide for QB's who could play under center, Linemen who can put their hand in the ground and maul people and Fullbacks who can demolish Linebackers. We also wouldn't necessarily have to search for stud TE's who can do it all. We can recruit more kids who are in the 240lb range to play TE/H-Back. Legit Pro-Style TE's are very hard to find IMO, especially in South Florida. We could stock our shelves in our own backyard as opposed to searching far and wide for the ingredients you need for a successful Pro-Style. People fail to realize that the majority of the players that made our old Pro-Style work weren't from South Florida.

4. When Jacory Harris was here I specifically remember struggling in certain games, being down by a couple scores, going to 10 personnel and marching down the field with ease. Any time we were down late in the game we would spread the ball out and march right down the field. Nobody could cover Benjamin and company. I would watch the game and SMH like "Why don't we do this all game?"

In short, I agree with you to, but maybe not to the same extent. I think you're proposing something in the Mike Leach model. For me that's a bit overboard.

Your strongest point was regarding recruiting under that system. I'm curious to see what recruiting looks like under that system too. It could be powerful stuff.

You bring up valid points about not having to look for certain types of players. But you need to remember that we're (south florida) just as much of a running back factory; and our team need to reflect that too. I think we still need to recruit nationally. It's irresponsible not to. We don't even recruit fullbacks right now. We haven't had that though a time finding tight ends. We have a ton right now. I think what we're doing with tight ends right now is unique to much of the country.

I think your perception of our offense is a little off. We don't even have a fullback on the roster right now. Walter Tucker is not a fullback. Lol. From the spring film it looks like we've been rotating around 12, 11, and 10.

Beyond the potential recruiting power of your theory, I have a hard time letting go of a run based offense in lieu of a finesse game. If we want to focus on 3 WR sets, then I would have to do something along the lines of what Auburn is doing.

I have access to all22.com and I think I've watched Auburn's entire season 2 times over. Lol.

Nah, I'm not saying I want the Leach offense, I'm just saying that I'd like to see a lot more 3 and 4 WR sets.

Over the years South Florida has become more and more of a finesse area. I have no problem finessing defenses to the tune of 45 points per game. It doesn't mean we have to be finesse on defense. Also, utilizing more 10 and 11 personnel doesn't mean we can't run the ball.

Yeah, South Florida is a RB area but guys like McGahee ain't falling out of trees anymore down here. It's more guys like Duke, Cook and Yearby. (i.e. your typical scat RB's)

And I disagree about TE. Yeah, we have a bunch of them on the roster right now but how many of them are legit threats? When's the last time we recruited a legit threat at TE? If you run TE sets then all you do is bring extra defenders in the box. Well if your TE isn't a legit pass-catching threat then you can't make the defense pay for bringing that Safety down. As a DC I love nothing more than playing against a 21 personnel that doesn't have a legit pass-catching TE. It's cake.

If you're playing against Miami and they're running the spread, it puts your defense in a dilemma. Duke and Yearby are racking 5 yards a pop and you wanna bring an extra defender in the box. Well then how do you recover Miami's three WR's out of single-high?

If you're going to base your run game in 10 or 11(passing set) personnel then you need the QB to be a legit threat. That's pretty much law. No one in college football is scared of guard wraps or long traps.

Our TEs are threats. Be realistic. Clive can ball. So can Standish. I know exactly what you're referring to. We used to place robber (cov2 invert) coverage against 21. It was unfair, but the ACC is not high school.

Another McGahee and another Gore and another Bratton will come around. Duke is pretty ridic. You can't sell him short. We're always going to be a RB factory. All our best teams down here are still running teams--even from the spread.