Ernest Suttles

[SFbayCane]

Pete is saying he would be eligible to play this season

I'd be interested in the specifics of this.

 

[bbcane]

this is the guy that took one for us

Lol

 

[rudebuddha]

Pete is saying he would be eligible to play this season

I'd be interested in the specifics of this.

I think there is a difference depending on whether the player asks to transfer or the school cuts him. Since scholarships are renewable annually it doesn't seem logical that a school can cut someone from a scholarship and still hinder his athletic/academic pursuits. Then again, this is the NCAA so logic is usually a scarce commodity.

 

[Ernie McCracken]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

If I recall correctly, I believe the kid has to actually matriculate at the University. I believe the language is (or was) related to the first day of classes. Maybe if this kid hasnt attended any classes yet, there is a chance he wont have to seek a release from the Nebraska coach/AD. I think he still has to sit out a semester instead of a full year, so I do not think he'll be eligible for this season but I do think he can transfer and start on scholarship in the spring without having to get the blessing of the NU coach. I could be wrong but that's my understanding from back in the day.

If Nebraska is kicking him off the team, of course he'd be eligible to play right away. I can't see how it could be any other way.

 

[SFbayCane]

http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...cles/bhsn/2013/6/27/ex_gaither_de_ernest.html

 

[SFbayCane]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

If I recall correctly, I believe the kid has to actually matriculate at the University. I believe the language is (or was) related to the first day of classes. Maybe if this kid hasnt attended any classes yet, there is a chance he wont have to seek a release from the Nebraska coach/AD. I think he still has to sit out a semester instead of a full year, so I do not think he'll be eligible for this season but I do think he can transfer and start on scholarship in the spring without having to get the blessing of the NU coach. I could be wrong but that's my understanding from back in the day.

If Nebraska is kicking him off the team, of course he'd be eligible to play right away. I can't see how it could be any other way.

Im gonna hang my hat on the first day of class rule. We need a bat signal for Ace64.

 

[pook187]

That's an SEC name. Depending on his haircut I may be really excited about this pickup.

 

[DMoney]

I believe Suttles would have to sit until 2014. Pete has been working this story for the past week, if/when it's official he will give you guys the scoop.

 

[SFbayCane]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

If I recall correctly, I believe the kid has to actually matriculate at the University. I believe the language is (or was) related to the first day of classes. Maybe if this kid hasnt attended any classes yet, there is a chance he wont have to seek a release from the Nebraska coach/AD. I think he still has to sit out a semester instead of a full year, so I do not think he'll be eligible for this season but I do think he can transfer and start on scholarship in the spring without having to get the blessing of the NU coach. I could be wrong but that's my understanding from back in the day.

If Nebraska is kicking him off the team, of course he'd be eligible to play right away. I can't see how it could be any other way.

Its the NCAA, brother!!! You need to remove all common sense from the equation and dig into their bylaws.

 

[HurricaneMolina]

As long as he doesn't cause trouble.

 

[Shogungts]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

Didn't Seantrel Henderson sign with USC and then get released and was able to play at Miami that year? Now, I don't know if getting kicked off them team is that same as being released from your LOI, especially since he had already enrolled, but I do think you can play immediately at another school after signing a LOI if you are released.

 

[Cribby]

The only reason I could see him not being immediately eligible is if he was an EE.

Was he enrolled already ?

 

[CanesAreAble]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

Didn't Seantrel Henderson sign with USC and then get released and was able to play at Miami that year? Now, I don't know if getting kicked off them team is that same as being released from your LOI, especially since he had already enrolled, but I do think you can play immediately at another school after signing a LOI if you are released.

That was different because of SC's sanctions. Freshmen and Sophomores were given free releases.

 

[SFbayCane]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

Didn't Seantrel Henderson sign with USC and then get released and was able to play at Miami that year? Now, I don't know if getting kicked off them team is that same as being released from your LOI, especially since he had already enrolled, but I do think you can play immediately at another school after signing a LOI if you are released.

Yes. That example is on point.


http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5358730

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/10/sports/ncaafootball/10henderson.html?_r=0

 

[Cribby]

If you're not enrolled and the school gives you a release then you're free to play that fall. That's why the LB from Fsu didn't go to USC , he'd had to sit out a year because they wouldn't give him a full release.

 

[SFbayCane]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

Didn't Seantrel Henderson sign with USC and then get released and was able to play at Miami that year? Now, I don't know if getting kicked off them team is that same as being released from your LOI, especially since he had already enrolled, but I do think you can play immediately at another school after signing a LOI if you are released.

That was different because of SC's sanctions. Freshmen and Sophomores were given free releases.

According to one of the articles I linked above, it said the NCAA overlords only allow juniors and seniors to transfer without penalty if a school is put on probation.

 

[Shogungts]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

Didn't Seantrel Henderson sign with USC and then get released and was able to play at Miami that year? Now, I don't know if getting kicked off them team is that same as being released from your LOI, especially since he had already enrolled, but I do think you can play immediately at another school after signing a LOI if you are released.

That was different because of SC's sanctions. Freshmen and Sophomores were given free releases.

According to one of the articles I linked above, it said the NCAA overlords only allow juniors and seniors to transfer without penalty if a school is put on probation.

Yeah, pretty sure it was Lane and the AD that ok'd the release, not the NCAA.

 

[nycane]

senatrel got a release because they lied to him.

 

[The Franchise]

Pretty sure once you sign that LOI you have to sit out a year before playing at another D1 school unless there is some crazy hardship where the ncaa will give you a waiver. I'm not sure that getting kicked out changes that.

Didn't Seantrel Henderson sign with USC and then get released and was able to play at Miami that year? Now, I don't know if getting kicked off them team is that same as being released from your LOI, especially since he had already enrolled, but I do think you can play immediately at another school after signing a LOI if you are released.

Pretty sure the NCAA opened up the USC recruits after their penalties were announced. Different situation.

 

[nycane]

exactly, they misled seantrel about the upcoming sanctions so he was allowed to transfer. they thought if they misled kids and they signed, the kids were trapped.