Eric Winston On Miami Defense

[252cane]

A few quotes from a interview he did on ITU.

"The problem is everything-with scheme and philosphy and then it tricles down to what the kids need to do and how they're executing."

"Like i said they're not dictating the game to the offense. They're just trying to counter-punch the whole time."

"We run the same play over and over. It does not matter if the TE is gashing us, the Rb gashing us, the short passes.... we still line up in the same formation with the same play.... opposing OCs must have a field day. I wonder what they say to themselves."

"If AG is a former DC and the D is our major problem, why has he not stepped in? Friends or not, in the real world you have to worry about your livelihood and family first and foremost.... flat out, your product is not getting it done on the field. Talent or not, these guys don't play as a cohesive unit on D"

 

[DeadPoets]

Nailed it

 

[AUcane]

real talk. Have always loved that dude from the day he told his step-dad to F off that he was going to miami.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

They have scholarship players too Eric

 

[LuCane]

Sounds like a member of CanesInsight.com.

 

[beantowncane]

real talk. Have always loved that dude from the day he told his step-dad to F off that he was going to miami.

Care to elaborate? Where did his step dad want him to go?

 

[bransuperpower]

If AG is a former DC and the D is our major problem, why has he not stepped in?

i promise i was wondering the same thing

 

[88]

Field day

 

[Consigliere]

"If AG is a former DC and the D is our major problem, why has he not stepped in? Friends or not, in the real world you have to worry about your livelihood and family first and foremost.... flat out, your product is not getting it done on the field. Talent or not, these guys don't play as a cohesive unit on D"

Not that it matters but I am curious about this as well.

I really want to know whether Golden directly has his hands on the D (i.e. they are doing the game plan and he signs off) or whether he indirectly has his hands on the D (i.e. he hired Mark and has his hands off).

I know some have theories but I would really like to know the answer.

 

[caneaddict]

Time for me to fallback, it's starting to resonate amongst pros and even Desmond Howard alluded to it on Rosé today....FML

 

[mapcane]

It's perturbing that we have had three straight coaches who fail to remedy mistakes readily apparent to message board posters. Look, all coaches make mistakes, and all schemes require adjustments and improvements. But we're almost done with Year 3 of the Golden Project, and this defense looks more pathetic, lost, and hopeless than it did on Day 1. THAT is exceedingly troublesome, and runs counter to the trend you see when a legitimately good coach takes over a team. When a good coach comes in, it may take some time, but things improve markedly over time.

To me, what we're seeing here is clearly an indictment of coaching, not the players. The players are not elite, no doubt, but as pointed out by many people, a lot of other teams have managed to hold VT's and Duke's offenses without the benefit of star-studded defensive players. Again, we're taking a group of players and massively failing to maximize their collective talent. If Golden doesn't see that he needs to go back to drawing board on defense, including by firing his friend, then we're ****ed and he's punching his ticket back to the MAC.

 

[cowboycane]

He nailed the central point.

Most of us don't really know **** about X's and O's, and very few of us really care whether we run a 3-4 or a 4-3 or a 1-6. We are aesthetic fans and we know what a good defense looks like because we have seen it before. We want big changes made, and a certain someone to be offered as a sacrifice that will symbolize change, because we are consistently awful and yet we do nothing to change it.

We do not play to our strengths, and we are dogmatic about an approach that doesn't produce a competitive, fun to watch defense. That means the coaching staff is essentially embracing the awful, and that **** just isn't right.

I for one believe that we are just as capable of running a 3-4 as anyone, but the style of the 3-4 we run has to match our personnel. Three years is enough time to prove to me that this defense isn't going to work here, for whatever reason. Simplify it for the kids and make it more fun for them to play in (add blitzes, bump and run at the line, etc.) or get rid of it entirely...but change t or get out of town.

 

[NateDogg]

"If AG is a former DC and the D is our major problem, why has he not stepped in? Friends or not, in the real world you have to worry about your livelihood and family first and foremost.... flat out, your product is not getting it done on the field. Talent or not, these guys don't play as a cohesive unit on D"

Not that it matters but I am curious about this as well.

I really want to know whether Golden directly has his hands on the D (i.e. they are doing the game plan and he signs off) or whether he indirectly has his hands on the D (i.e. he hired Mark and has his hands off).

I know some have theories but I would really like to know the answer.

willing to bet my LIFE that golden has had his fingerprints on the defense since day number ONE, with everything from daily coaching to gameplanning to scheme development (can't believe i just typed 'scheme' and 'development' together, SMDH)

I, too, would love actual confirmation...but again...i would bet anything that golden has been focused on the defense since day 1, thats his background...and its always tough for guys that become a HC to really delegate 100% or even 50% to another coach when it relates to something they know themselves (or think they know)

only way golden will ever succeed here is if he commits to being a CEO, gets someone that can run the defense on their own...and uses his extra time to focus on his actual strengths (as opposed to his perceived strengths) which would be: recruiting, relationship building in SOFLA (coaches, hs administrators), recruiting, selling the U brand via media interviews, and recruiting.

 

[DutchieFlair]

Again, I feel like we're back in Shannon/Coker territory with this guy.

 

[AUcane]

real talk. Have always loved that dude from the day he told his step-dad to F off that he was going to miami.

Care to elaborate? Where did his step dad want him to go?

Dad was a huge aTm fan. Wanted him to go there. Winston wanted to go to Miami and step-dad did not approve. I think they were estranged for a while.

 

[Consigliere]

"If AG is a former DC and the D is our major problem, why has he not stepped in? Friends or not, in the real world you have to worry about your livelihood and family first and foremost.... flat out, your product is not getting it done on the field. Talent or not, these guys don't play as a cohesive unit on D"

Not that it matters but I am curious about this as well.

I really want to know whether Golden directly has his hands on the D (i.e. they are doing the game plan and he signs off) or whether he indirectly has his hands on the D (i.e. he hired Mark and has his hands off).

I know some have theories but I would really like to know the answer.

willing to bet my LIFE that golden has had his fingerprints on the defense since day number ONE, with everything from daily coaching to gameplanning to scheme development (can't believe i just typed 'scheme' and 'development' together, SMDH)

I, too, would love actual confirmation...but again...i would bet anything that golden has been focused on the defense since day 1, thats his background...and its always tough for guys that become a HC to really delegate 100% or even 50% to another coach when it relates to something they know themselves (or think they know)

only way golden will ever succeed here is if he commits to being a CEO, gets someone that can run the defense on their own...and uses his extra time to focus on his actual strengths (as opposed to his perceived strengths) which would be: recruiting, relationship building in SOFLA (coaches, hs administrators), recruiting, selling the U brand via media interviews, and recruiting.

Oooo you made might high come down, Nate.

I would like to know myself. I believe that is the only way he can fix the mess (bring in a new DC and DL coach) and has a hands off approach.

 

[sebastian91]

"If AG is a former DC and the D is our major problem, why has he not stepped in? Friends or not, in the real world you have to worry about your livelihood and family first and foremost.... flat out, your product is not getting it done on the field. Talent or not, these guys don't play as a cohesive unit on D"

Not that it matters but I am curious about this as well.

I really want to know whether Golden directly has his hands on the D (i.e. they are doing the game plan and he signs off) or whether he indirectly has his hands on the D (i.e. he hired Mark and has his hands off).

I know some have theories but I would really like to know the answer.

Joe Rose asked him that question yesterday. His answer was that he's directly involved in all 3 phases. He didn't really elaborate beyond that, and I wouldn't really expect him to anyway.

 

[CANE]

Not that it matters but I am curious about this as well.

I really want to know whether Golden directly has his hands on the D (i.e. they are doing the game plan and he signs off) or whether he indirectly has his hands on the D (i.e. he hired Mark and has his hands off).

I know some have theories but I would really like to know the answer.

In his interview with Joe Rose it's mental and physical, DL and LBs, "errors within the system" etc.. Go to 7:00-8:40 mark says "he's involved in all three phases... "

http://wqam.com/2013/11/18/al-golden-with-big-dog-11-18/

 

[NateDogg]

It's perturbing that we have had three straight coaches who fail to remedy mistakes readily apparent to message board posters. Look, all coaches make mistakes, and all schemes require adjustments and improvements. But we're almost done with Year 3 of the Golden Project, and this defense looks more pathetic, lost, and hopeless than it did on Day 1. THAT is exceedingly troublesome, and runs counter to the trend you see when a legitimately good coach takes over a team. When a good coach comes in, it may take some time, but things improve markedly over time.

To me, what we're seeing here is clearly an indictment of coaching, not the players. The players are not elite, no doubt, but as pointed out by many people, a lot of other teams have managed to hold VT's and Duke's offenses without the benefit of star-studded defensive players. Again, we're taking a group of players and massively failing to maximize their collective talent. If Golden doesn't see that he needs to go back to drawing board on defense, including by firing his friend, then we're ****ed and he's punching his ticket back to the MAC.

 

[Consigliere]

"If AG is a former DC and the D is our major problem, why has he not stepped in? Friends or not, in the real world you have to worry about your livelihood and family first and foremost.... flat out, your product is not getting it done on the field. Talent or not, these guys don't play as a cohesive unit on D"

Not that it matters but I am curious about this as well.

I really want to know whether Golden directly has his hands on the D (i.e. they are doing the game plan and he signs off) or whether he indirectly has his hands on the D (i.e. he hired Mark and has his hands off).

I know some have theories but I would really like to know the answer.

Joe Rose asked him that question yesterday. His answer was that he's directly involved in all 3 phases. He didn't really elaborate beyond that, and I wouldn't really expect him to anyway.

I am more curious how much he is involved, the more he is the more scary it is.