Ed Reed wants to coach once he is done with football

[Ned_Zawalski]

not being retained doesnt mean he was a bad coach though the raiders change coaches like the weather too so not surprising if someone came in and wanted an entirely new staff, im not surprised the steelers would have him go that route though as they usually have a top notch staff i wouldnt expect him to supplant someone in pittsburgh

Not being retained by one team and being treated like a college student getting course credit by another team isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

 

[I'm Hurt Dawg]

not being retained doesnt mean he was a bad coach though the raiders change coaches like the weather too so not surprising if someone came in and wanted an entirely new staff, im not surprised the steelers would have him go that route though as they usually have a top notch staff i wouldnt expect him to supplant someone in pittsburgh

Not being retained by one team and being treated like a college student getting course credit by another team isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

The whole staff including the GM got fired and it was 1st year coaching.

 

[58straight]

not being retained doesnt mean he was a bad coach though the raiders change coaches like the weather too so not surprising if someone came in and wanted an entirely new staff, im not surprised the steelers would have him go that route though as they usually have a top notch staff i wouldnt expect him to supplant someone in pittsburgh

Not being retained by one team and being treated like a college student getting course credit by another team isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

in your opinion, i still cant say if he was a bad coach unless i was die hard that followed the raiders. do you know if many teams turned him away? or did he just try in pittsburgh? how many teams even had an opening for him? he may have just felt comfortable there since thats where he spent most of his career. i dont know

 

[LuCane]

Bet he'd kill to be back at the corner benches of Memorial building - just breaking bread off to pigeons and relaxing before work.

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

not being retained doesnt mean he was a bad coach though the raiders change coaches like the weather too so not surprising if someone came in and wanted an entirely new staff, im not surprised the steelers would have him go that route though as they usually have a top notch staff i wouldnt expect him to supplant someone in pittsburgh

Not being retained by one team and being treated like a college student getting course credit by another team isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

The whole staff including the GM got fired and it was 1st year coaching.

Great. Do we have any evidence at all that he was any good at what they hired him to do? Vrabel was a good example. Woodson, not so much. Please tell me that your second best example isn't a guy who's current job is training camp intern. Tell me you have more Vrabels to show us.

 

[58straight]

not being retained doesnt mean he was a bad coach though the raiders change coaches like the weather too so not surprising if someone came in and wanted an entirely new staff, im not surprised the steelers would have him go that route though as they usually have a top notch staff i wouldnt expect him to supplant someone in pittsburgh

Not being retained by one team and being treated like a college student getting course credit by another team isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

The whole staff including the GM got fired and it was 1st year coaching.

Great. Do we have any evidence at all that he was any good at what they hired him to do? Vrabel was a good example. Woodson, not so much. Please tell me that your second best example isn't a guy who's current job is training camp intern. Tell me you have more Vrabels to show us.

i used those guys as examples of former high profiles guys being given the opportunity to coach not as evidence of some magical coaching success, just to put it out there that it can happen

 

[58straight]

also im curious as to why you consider vrabel hire to be a success for ohio st when he was on the staff that was very mediocre and that miami actually beat. is urban meyer now making him look better than he is? i guess if woodson had been coaching on a winning team like the packers he would've been a success to you

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

also im curious as to why you consider vrabel hire to be a success for ohio st when he was on the staff that was very mediocre and that miami actually beat. is urban meyer now making him look better than he is? i guess if woodson had been coaching on a winning team like the packers he would've been a success to you

I don't consider Vrabel a success, he just happens to be the sole example that you guys can come up with of a former player jumping right in at his alma mater as a coach. If you don't consider him a success, which is fine, then you guys now have no examples of former players being successful coaches when they get jobs without learning at lower levels first.

 

[I'm Hurt Dawg]

also im curious as to why you consider vrabel hire to be a success for ohio st when he was on the staff that was very mediocre and that miami actually beat. is urban meyer now making him look better than he is? i guess if woodson had been coaching on a winning team like the packers he would've been a success to you

I don't consider Vrabel a success, he just happens to be the sole example that you guys can come up with of a former player jumping right in at his alma mater as a coach. If you don't consider him a success, which is fine, then you guys now have no examples of former players being successful coaches when they get jobs without learning at lower levels first.

and you don't have any examples are of ones that failed.

 

[58straight]

also im curious as to why you consider vrabel hire to be a success for ohio st when he was on the staff that was very mediocre and that miami actually beat. is urban meyer now making him look better than he is? i guess if woodson had been coaching on a winning team like the packers he would've been a success to you

I don't consider Vrabel a success, he just happens to be the sole example that you guys can come up with of a former player jumping right in at his alma mater as a coach. If you don't consider him a success, which is fine, then you guys now have no examples of former players being successful coaches when they get jobs without learning at lower levels first.

like i said from the start I dont know, i just used examples for people who were hired at least i never said they were good coaches or mediocre, just that they were given a shot

 

[nycane]

he sees the game at a different level than the regular player plus he is a true leader. he will probably be a great coach if brought up right.

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

and you don't have any examples are of ones that failed.

Not sure how we got back to this, but it's because HEAD COACHES AREN'T THAT DUMB. They don't hire coaches like that in the first place. It's like asking me to show you teams that have failed by using one QB and ten linemen. Yeah, you got me, I can't find any teams that have failed in that philosophy.

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

also im curious as to why you consider vrabel hire to be a success for ohio st when he was on the staff that was very mediocre and that miami actually beat. is urban meyer now making him look better than he is? i guess if woodson had been coaching on a winning team like the packers he would've been a success to you

I don't consider Vrabel a success, he just happens to be the sole example that you guys can come up with of a former player jumping right in at his alma mater as a coach. If you don't consider him a success, which is fine, then you guys now have no examples of former players being successful coaches when they get jobs without learning at lower levels first.

like i said from the start I dont know, i just used examples for people who were hired at least i never said they were good coaches or mediocre, just that they were given a shot

And if the guys on CanesInsight have it all figured out, wouldn't you think that some major programs with dozens of successful NFL alumni would have given it a shot?

 

[LA'Cane818]

Ed Reed has been a coach the last 10 years. Who gives a **** if its on the field or on the sideline. Guy is a born leader and commands a huddle. I would hire him as DB coach day he retired.

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

he will probably be a great coach if brought up right.

Truth. And he should be brought up right by the guys at Aquinas, then at Mississippi Gulf Coast, etc.

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

Ed Reed has been a coach the last 10 years. Who gives a **** if its on the field or on the sideline. Guy is a born leader and commands a huddle. I would hire him as DB coach day he retired.

I don't disagree with that for one second, but he has been surrounded by motivated professionals for those ten years. When we say that he needs to learn, it's not to learn football, it's to learn how to work with kids as a non-player. He just might not know how to handle a kid who is distracted by snatch, classes, missing momma, etc.

 

[I'm Hurt Dawg]

and you don't have any examples are of ones that failed.

Not sure how we got back to this, but it's because HEAD COACHES AREN'T THAT DUMB. They don't hire coaches like that in the first place. It's like asking me to show you teams that have failed by using one QB and ten linemen. Yeah, you got me, I can't find any teams that have failed in that philosophy.

Urban Meyer or Tressell did

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

Ed Oregeron is a great example of what I am saying. He says that he is a different coach today because of his failures as a head coach at Mississippi. And this is a guy who started as a GA and finally got a head coaching job after 20 years. And he admits that he STILL wasn't ready. Now in his 30th year of coaching he feels like he is doing things right. But we want to throw a guy out there who hasn't been around a college player in 12 years?

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

Urban Meyer or Tressell did

So with 120 teams and 10 coaches each, you have found 1 example out of 1200 coaches, and we don't even know if that guy is doing any good. Why haven't the coaches at Texas, USC, Florida, Alabama, etc., had the insight that you have?