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NC_Canes_11 said:
It works on every level. Stealing bases is all about technique and the jump you get. If you don’t waste any steps on your get off, perfect crossover etc. and get a good jump you will never be thrown out when a catcher goes to his knees outside, of Yadi in his prime. The best base stealers are normally not the fastest, of course there are guys like Billy Hamilton who are both. Kid made a play, it happens. Hats off to Gates for trying to make something happen when we were dead
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HE WASN'T STEALING THE BASE FOR **** 1000TH TIME!!! HE SAW THE PITCH DOWN IN THE DIRT AND TRIED TO TAKE 2ND!! GOT THROEN OUT!!!
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
HE WASN'T STEALING THE BASE FOR **** 1000TH TIME!!! HE SAW THE PITCH DOWN IN THE DIRT AND TRIED TO TAKE 2ND!! GOT THROEN OUT!!!
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Nobody said he was. It’s the same concept. It’s about your jump. We aren’t talking about Toral here. Gates is plenty athletic to do that
 
Number1CanesFan said:
Then why are you saying you run before the ball hits the ground? That's not the case for everyone. In fact it's only for a few and Gates isn't one of them. Basically, only the guys that steal bases.
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Guys that steal bases will see a pitch is going to be in the dirt. They have the speed to take a base because the catcher is going to block the ball 9/10 times. They are fast enough to take the base before the catcher can retrieve the ball and throw. Everyone else must see the ball get far enough away from the catcher. It's not a steal. It's advancing on a wild pitch. Gates was not stealing. He was trying to make a play that Lala, Jenkins or Zamora would make. He's not that dude. Needs to stay in his lane.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Nobody said he was. It’s the same concept. It’s about your jump. We aren’t talking about Toral here. Gates is plenty athletic to do that
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That's why he got thrown out. The only guys that SHOULD do it are the ones that steal bases because they will take the base even if the catcher makes a play.
 
It is a good thing the team played the game with "no urgency". Have to laugh at some of the posts on here during the game.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
Guys that steal bases will see a pitch is going to be in the dirt. They have the speed to take a base because the catcher is going to block the ball 9/10 times. They are fast enough to take the base before the catcher can retrieve the ball and throw. Everyone else must see the ball get far enough away from the catcher. It's not a steal. It's advancing on a wild pitch. Gates was not stealing. He was trying to make a play that Lala, Jenkins or Zamora would make. He's not that dude. Needs to stay in his lane.
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As long as you aren’t Toral slow you can take second on a ball in the dirt if the catcher goes to his knees to block it, if you get a good read on it.

Maybe the team you played for hit 1000 Home runs a year or had guys that ran either 6.2s and under or 8.0s and higher, so you had restrictions. But most college programs operate the way Gates handled it. Some guys might have to see it get away but the majority do not
 
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Glad we won. We didnt play well but this was the type of game we've let slip far too often this season so actually winning it is big.

Toral might break the school HR record if he keeps this up. Would be incredible to do that with a BBCOR bat
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
As long as you aren’t Toral slow you can take second on a ball in the dirt if the catcher goes to his knees to block it, if you get a good read on it.

Maybe the team you played for hit 1000 Home runs a year or had guys that ran either 6.2s and under or 8.0s and higher, so you had restrictions. But most college programs operate the way Gates handled it. Some guys might have to see it get away but the majority do not
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I played D-1 baseball. Ah, no. Only for certain dudes. Maybe Gates thinks he's that guy. I don't see it. If that were the case, he would have been safe. Even our announcers said Gates needed to make sure the ball got far enough away. So, they know Gates made a play that he shouldn't have.
 
CTCANE said:
It is a good thing the team played the game woth "no urgency". Have to laugh at some of the posts on here during the game.
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If you think this team was ready to play out of the gate idk what to tell you. It took us 5 innings to get into the game. Solo homeruns aren’t a recipe for success. Just bc you win the game does not mean you played great
 
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