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I think the redshirt is necessary for his own interest (growth, maturity, ease into the system) and if he needs it then he should redshirt. If he can help us in 2013 (whatever that means) then there is no need to redshirt the player.

I am not concerned with the 2017 season like many of you (this would be Olsen's 5th year in the program). I am not concerned with competition (i.e. Kayaa v. Olsen and one leaving). It is survival of the fittest and the best should play. If one transfers, it wasn't meant to be.
 
Golden said the other day that Olsen will compete and not automatically redshirt. I don't think we see him in any "mop up game". With our D we don't have those and Golden will not burn the shirt for a little playing time. If, God forbid, Morris gets hurt and we are in the hunt for ACC, then Golden will go with who gives us the best chance to win. That might not be Olsen at that time. This staff has shown some skill at making player better instead of worse, remember Harris look much better with this staff. The guys who have been here 2 or 3 years might give us the best chance to win. Remember, Williams has actual game experience and was FL hs champion. I know we have not seen much, but could be more than capable of pulling off a couple wins. Kaaya is more raw than Olsen and I think he definately redshirts. It is nice to be talking about a year down the road and debating which qb should redshirt instead of "do we have any other QBs?" Nice to have a plan.
 
252cane said:
At least yet any way i have heard that he has looked good throwing the ball and even morris mentioned how talented he is. I say let him compete for the #2 spot. I believe he could beat out williams and crow on pure talent. He would still have 3yrs to be the guy and he could get in game reps this year vs fau,savannah st.,usf and maybe wf and uva. That could be great because you then rs kayaa and that will put him 2yrs behind olsen. Because i do believe if olsen rs which ever guy wins the job the other will leave. I know i shouldn't worry about that know but i think it's the best option this year and for the future.
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I have actually been thinking the same thing lately. I was very much in favor of him redshirting but the reps could get him ready to start next year and then you could redshirt Kaaya and have some separation at the QB spot.
 
I will chime in on what GatorHater said. If Olsen picks up the playbook quickly and shows that he can handle the system and beats out #2 or #3 then he will not redshirt. The best players play. The next best players prepare with the "Next Man Up Mentality". If Olsen shows that over Williams, Crow and Dew then do not expect him to reshirt. I think Kaaya will probably redshirt regardless just for the sake of separation of classes. That doesn't have to be the case with Olsen.
 
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You do not declare him as a redshirt at the beginning of the season...why would Golden do that?

This should be obvious to everyone. If Olsen wins the #2 job outright he will be the #2 QB. If Morris goes down then Olsen steps in and doesn't redshirt. If Morris stays healthy then we shirt Olsen. The other scenario is that Olsen doesn't win the #2 spot b/c he isn't physically ready...at the end of the year he will take his redshirt. Its simple.
 
IF he is the number 2 qb on the, the 2nd best qb on the team and the likely starter in 2014, you play him this year and get him game experience. you don't have going into next year w/out game experience. and the coaches can tell pretty early on if he is ready or almost ready or if he is 2-3 years from starting.
again, IF he is the 2nd best qb and likely starter next year, u play him this year. and if he's that good, he might play here more than 4 years anyway.
so, he plays as true freshman and leaves after his 4 years, or he possibly redshirts and leaves after his jr year anyway, if he's that good.
 
I understand all your comments but it was just something i thought about because i have heard a lot a great things about both guys and i felt that could be a good way to allow both to get there turn.
 
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wright's mop up duty has nothing to do w/ Olsen's. a lot of kids are coming in as true freshmen and making an impact. no reason olsen cant handle some meaningful minutes as the number 2, if that's what he is, to get him ready for 2014.
 
I don't think a lot of you guys understand what redshirt means. He can still be the #2 QB and redshirt.
It's not like NCAA on Xbox where you redshirt guys before the season and they are removed from the depth chart. If he is legitimately the #2 then you keep him there to get those practice reps in the event Morris gets injured and then he can step in and contribute. If Morris stays healthy then you redshirt him after the season but he still got all the #2 reps during the season giving him a little more practice time for next season which he wouldn't have if he is the #3 or #4.
 
ZCanes said:
I don't think a lot of you guys understand what redshirt means. He can still be the #2 QB and redshirt.
It's not like NCAA on Xbox where you redshirt guys before the season and they are removed from the depth chart. If he is legitimately the #2 then you keep him there to get those practice reps in the event Morris gets injured and then he can step in and contribute. If Morris stays healthy then you redshirt him after the season but he still got all the #2 reps during the season giving him a little more practice time for next season which he wouldn't have if he is the #3 or #4.
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I think the assumption is that if he doesn't redshirt, he's expected to see time whether it be mop up duty or a specific offensive play or series designed for him.
 
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valid said:
ZCanes said:
I don't think a lot of you guys understand what redshirt means. He can still be the #2 QB and redshirt.
It's not like NCAA on Xbox where you redshirt guys before the season and they are removed from the depth chart. If he is legitimately the #2 then you keep him there to get those practice reps in the event Morris gets injured and then he can step in and contribute. If Morris stays healthy then you redshirt him after the season but he still got all the #2 reps during the season giving him a little more practice time for next season which he wouldn't have if he is the #3 or #4.
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I think the assumption is that if he doesn't redshirt, he's expected to see time whether it be mop up duty or a specific offensive play or series designed for him.
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I know that's what some people posting are thinking but a lot are under the assumption that if someone isn't deemed a redshirt at the beginning of the year they wasted the year.
I'm all for him getting the number 2 reps in practice and and throwing him out there if its NEEDED. As far as mop up duty I would be all for Williams or one of the other guys leapfrogging Olsen on the depth chart to get in those game situations. I know that's not typical but that would be the best scenario.
 
I say ***** a red shirt lets get him some reps this year to have some experience going into next year. If he's the number 2 that is
 
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Olsen has done nothing at this stage to warrant being number 4 no less number 2...If he is that MUCH better than Williams then Morris needs to worry...THE only difference in Morris and Williams is arm strength..IMO

Olsen will RS so will other guys that YOU want to see play ASAP...its the proper way to build depth and a champion...

Duke was sensational last year, but if Lamar would have stayed Duke could have still been our KO guy and not got punished carrying the load at times ( injuries and not CFB ready)..some guys are not going to RS and play...goal is to RS as many as you can and look to the bench and see guys ready to play and not just coming from their proms
 
He needs the reps if he's going to be the starter next year. If he doesn't win #2, I think you plan to shirt him and let him get his game reps next year as the back up. If he wins #2, he's in line to start next year and probably should get some reps. It all hinges on whether or not he's going to be the guy next year
 
Gamineal said:
Olsen has done nothing at this stage to warrant being number 4 no less number 2...If he is that MUCH better than Williams then Morris needs to worry...THE only difference in Morris and Williams is arm strength..IMO

Olsen will RS so will other guys that YOU want to see play ASAP...its the proper way to build depth and a champion...

Duke was sensational last year, but if Lamar would have stayed Duke could have still been our KO guy and not got punished carrying the load at times ( injuries and not CFB ready)..some guys are not going to RS and play...goal is to RS as many as you can and look to the bench and see guys ready to play and not just coming from their proms
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not in today's college football. The goal is to find guys that can come and contribute to your program and be gone in 3-4 years. Look at some of the SEC schools everyone drools over. They bring in kids and sell playing time ASAP. Redshirting is reserved for injuries and for guys who just weren't physically ready. That's why you they don't have a lot of 5th year guys. It's the old school college football or how schools like Wake Forest stay relevant every four years. You don't save kids for a rainy day anymore because if they're good enough to be gone in 3-4yrs they will be gone in 3-4 years anyway. The ones that aren't good enough to do that get processed out.
 
am1640 said:
Gamineal said:
Olsen has done nothing at this stage to warrant being number 4 no less number 2...If he is that MUCH better than Williams then Morris needs to worry...THE only difference in Morris and Williams is arm strength..IMO

Olsen will RS so will other guys that YOU want to see play ASAP...its the proper way to build depth and a champion...

Duke was sensational last year, but if Lamar would have stayed Duke could have still been our KO guy and not got punished carrying the load at times ( injuries and not CFB ready)..some guys are not going to RS and play...goal is to RS as many as you can and look to the bench and see guys ready to play and not just coming from their proms
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not in today's college football. The goal is to find guys that can come and contribute to your program and be gone in 3-4 years. Look at some of the SEC schools everyone drools over. They bring in kids and sell playing time ASAP. Redshirting is reserved for injuries and for guys who just weren't physically ready. That's why you they don't have a lot of 5th year guys. It's the old school college football or how schools like Wake Forest stay relevant every four years. You don't save kids for a rainy day anymore because if they're good enough to be gone in 3-4yrs they will be gone in 3-4 years anyway. The ones that aren't good enough to do that get processed out.
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Okay....
 
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