Donna Dangles: We Skate

The NCAA needs to get ready, because there will be a lot of schools after them after the truth comes out. It seems to me thr NCAA is hiding a lot of mistakes to the public, because they are showing everyone they wanted to hit us hard. The truth will come out. Emmert should be forced to resighn, he is completly imcompetent! Miami will fight this and win! I am ****ed off that this is happening and the media, which killed Miami when the yahoo report came out, isnt killing the ncaa for this debacle.

most of the media goes with whats trendy at the time. when this started it was all death penalty or bust, then we should get serious sanctions, then everyone saying we should definitely self impose (and again) because of what we "had done", then it was well looks like the NCAA was out of line in its investigations, now people are saying everyone from the NCAA enforcement arm should be removed and why isn't Miami fighting back. People don't usually look further back or ahead of what's going on at the moment so that is why you have these reactions

see here is a quote from Dinich who even just as soon as last week on OTL was still bringing up the possible sanctions we facing in regards to our recruiting: "Miami has followed the NCAA’s playbook on cooperation in this investigation every step of the way, while the NCAA reached a jaw-dropping new low with its investigative tactics. Instead of swinging back, Miami’s athletic department has punished itself with its tail between its legs"
 
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Statement from President Donna E. Shalala

http://www.miami.edu/index.php/news/releases/um_responds_to_statement_on_ncaa_investigation/

"The University takes full responsibility for the conduct of its employees and student-athletes. Where the evidence of NCAA violations has been substantiated, we have self-imposed appropriate sanctions, including unilaterally eliminating once-in-a-lifetime opportunities for our students and coaches over the past two years, and disciplining and withholding players from competition.

"We believe strongly in the principles and values of fairness and due process. However, we have been wronged in this investigation, and we believe that this process must come to a swift resolution, which includes no additional punitive measures beyond those already self-imposed.

"In September 2010—two and a half years ago—the University of Miami advised the NCAA of allegations made by a convicted felon against former players and, at that time, we pledged our full cooperation with any investigation into the matter. One year later, in August 2011, when the NCAA's investigation into alleged rules violations was made public, I pledged we would 'vigorously pursue the truth, wherever that path may lead' and insisted upon 'complete, honest, and transparent cooperation with the NCAA from our staff and students.'

"The University of Miami has lived up to those promises, but sadly the NCAA has not lived up to their own core principles. The lengthy and already flawed investigation has demonstrated a disappointing pattern of unprofessional and unethical behavior. By the NCAA leadership's own admission, the University of Miami has suffered from inappropriate practices by NCAA staff. There have also been damaging leaks to the media of unproven charges. Regardless of where blame lies internally with the NCAA, even one individual, one act, one instance of malfeasance both taints the entire process and breaches the public's trust.

"There must be a strong sense of urgency to bring this to closure. Our dedicated staff and coaches, our outstanding student-athletes, and our supporters deserve nothing less."
 
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Go get 'em, President!

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I know the initial poster appears to be a conspiracy theorist, but just take a look at this article on Shariff Floyd's adoption http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...arrif-floyd-adoption-ncaa-kevin-lahn/1702147/ -SEC is ridiculous... we should do the same thing lol
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The worst NCAA violations occur at schools in the SEC and other major programs. I know for a fact (because I know the players) that Alabama, Tennessee and Florida State have used a loophole in the system where they have the players' parents sign legal adoption papers. The player is then given benefits, including cash and cars, from their adopted parents (boosters) without penalty. They NCAA has all kinds of ridiculous rules but they do not limit gifts given from parents. This has been going on for years. So if you want a real story, just find out which players have been recently adopted, you would be shocked.
 
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NCAA is going to get shalalahandled. Some strong words here no doubt and no way she is just talking smack.
 
Better believe the Shalala is very well connected and will most likely use it. **** these ******** Pres!!
 
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the report, no doubt prepared by civil practitioners, suggested that no specific law or NCAA bylaw had been violated....Hmmmmmm...not so fast my friend....

federal criminal laws (e.g., mail fraud and wire fraud) make it a crime for people to execute or attempt to execute a "scheme to defraud" when certain fedderal jurisdictional elements are met, like the use of the mails, fed ex, or interstate wires are used, to further the scheme.

a scheme to defraud usually involves the intent to deceive, to make others believe what is not actually happening, usually to obtain money. (MEP ought to know all about this because this is most likely the kind of thing that put Nevin in prison.)

well, did you kinow? a scheme or artifice to defraud, under federal law also includes a sheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right of honest services (see, 18 usc 1346)

the question here is: did anyone at the ncaa (with Mep) engage in a scheme to defraud?, and if so who's the victim?

some (emmet) might argue the NCAA was victimized, it lost money, paying for legal services (weren't the disbursements orriginally identified as photocopying expenses?) or paying Nevin's commisary funds (perhaps identified as communication expenses).

If NCAA money was improperly spent, contrary to NCAA instruction or understanding, and if the truth had been made known, and the ncaa (as an institution) would not have authorized payment for the real reason the funds were spent the NCAA might be the victim (if were it shown that, in fact, the funds were actually used to subvert the bankruptcy proceeding and improperly secure deposition testimony, or to pay a witness under the table, and the NCAA if truth be known would not have allowed funding.)

a more esoteric theory of possible criminal liability involves the a scheme or artifice to deprive others of honest services, the question here is who's services. (this type of prosecution can best be understood with activities like bribery, where the public is deprived of the honest service of a public official, but the theory is not limited to that behavior.)

It could be argued, and i don't know how forcefully, that people, in particularl litigants, court officers, and personell in the bankruptcy court system, have the right to expect and receive the honest sevices of the bankruptcy court and its legal processes, according to its rules and procedures. If persons, lawyers, scheme to deprive others (e.g., bankruptcy creditors) of the honest functions of government court offices, someone might argue that a (new) scheme to defraud (again) made victims of the bankruptcy creditors and the court as well. A stretch ? maybe, but the equities here militate for some external consequences, outside just the santions of the bar associations. Some of the folks involved might not be lawyers and so would otherwise face no consequences.

Don't assume that all this has not crossed the mind of the bankrupcy judge. he has friend at the US attorneys office.

Anywho, time for all y'all (that's plural for y'all) time for all ya'll to lawyer up.

who's got the popcorn?




The truth is that no one knows.

The Cadwalader report says that enforcement did not violate any NCAA bylaw
s, but breached ethical standards that should govern investigations. It appears that the NCAA has excised substantial parts of what would be the NOA directed to UM because of the ethical breaches and things like the entirety of Sean Allen's testimony will be out.

My guess is that the NCAA has to save face by continuing and concluding the process and that its findings ultimately will justify the bowl bans we put in place, plus maybe some small scholarship losses and a perhaps a period of probation. I don't know what happens to any coaches involved in the investigation.
 
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Next time some ***** *** comes around saying "Shalala don't curr bout dis football team, just money" show em this. Nobody better have the audacity to say she doesn't have the football teams best interests in mind. She is sticking it right to the NCAA.

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Shalala just tossed her ****ies over her shoulders and put up her dukes.......lets goooooo Emmert!
 
"We have been wronged in this investigation, and we believe that this process must come to a swift resolution, which includes no additional punitive measures beyond those already self-imposed."

Couldn't have said it better Donna
 
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