Diaz talks team as UM looks to bounce back from 0-2 start

[We'retheBoss]

I agree with your overall sentiment and message. However, I don't think it's fair to equate "showing fire" or emotions during a press conference to success. Golden killed his first press conference. Muschamp was one of the most fiery guys on the field and off. Belichick looks the exact same way no matter what the outcome is.

Belichick, Noll, Walsh, handled their business like men on the sideline, not reacting like tween girls at a Justin Beiber concert. Some of these posters would rather have Gruden instead just because he "shows fire." Dumb people think any action = progress.

 

[ALLoverCANE]

Yes let’s be happy cause a bunch of nerd stats that say we are better than last year. Manny the analytics genius is a nerds wet dream, and If we go 6-6 and the S-P 500 or sauron from power rangers say we are in the top 30 we should all be happy. It’s all about expectations people, silly you for wanting you team to win games and not be happy about a bunch of stats created by a bunch of geeks jerking off to third down conversations inside of three minutes on cloudy days. Not attacking you just stating my two cents.

I don't feel attacked. It's clear you don't understand how analytics work - it's about finding stats that correlate with long-term sustainable success, not about finding random situational factoids - so why would I put any credence in your views on analytics.

But I understand that at the end of the day we all just want our team to win, and when it doesn't happen for whatever reason, it's upsetting.

 

[ALLoverCANE]

SloppyTop, I appreciate you defending this young man’s honor. But his post was so sappy and cliche-riddled that I assumed it was schtick. If he was serious it makes it even funnier.

The dude actually said results don’t matter, and you think that post is anything worth reading or responding to? Come on.

You must be right. You've posted on the same free internet message board 14 times per day, every day, for the last 7 years. That's about once per waking hour for the better of a decade. At this point, I would hope you are pretty good at determining which posts are worth reading and responding to.

I'm not going to defend my comments. Clearly winning arguments on CIS is important to you, so I'll happily let you have it.

 

[PoppaTop]

Yes let’s be happy cause a bunch of nerd stats that say we are better than last year. Manny the analytics genius is a nerds wet dream, and If we go 6-6 and the S-P 500 or sauron from power rangers say we are in the top 30 we should all be happy. It’s all about expectations people, silly you for wanting you team to win games and not be happy about a bunch of stats created by a bunch of geeks jerking off to third down conversations inside of three minutes on cloudy days. Not attacking you just stating my two cents.

Underlying analytics anticipate the probability of a win. It doesn't mean a team will win, but it is a good indicator of the percentage of time a team will win a specific game, and how many wins they will get over the course of a full season.

Obviously a loss sucks any way you slice it - but if there are underlying statistics that suggest that your team typically would have come out on top based on how they played, it's a good indicator for the future. No one is taking solace in close losses. It sucks, and it shouldn't have happened.

It's the probability of a solid foundation and future sustainability that's encouraging. Long term, I'd rather be 0-2 with indications that we can be a good team than 2-0 while getting outgained 950-100 and winning because the opposing QBs tossed us 8 pick-6's. That's quite obviously unsustainable. Short term, give me the wins. But this is a long term project we're getting started on.

 

[Bipolarcane]

I don't feel attacked. It's clear you don't understand how analytics work - it's about finding stats that correlate with long-term sustainable success, not about finding random situational factoids - so why would I put any credence in your views on analytics.

But I understand that at the end of the day we all just want our team to win, and when it doesn't happen for whatever reason, it's upsetting.

I think your insulting me but I can’t tell cause you sound smart as ****. But For some reason I really agree with what you wrote.

 

[Bipolarcane]

You must be right. You've posted on the same free internet message board 14 times per day, every day, for the last 7 years. That's about once per waking hour for the better of a decade. At this point, I would hope you are pretty good at determining which posts are worth reading and responding to.

I'm not going to defend my comments. Clearly winning arguments on CIS is important to you, so I'll happily let you have it.

**** that’s some analytics for you right there .

 

[TheMatador]

We’re playing Bethune-F*cking-Cookman.

Prepare like it's Bama. Don't play down to the level of competition.

 

[TheMatador]

I think your insulting me but I can’t tell cause you sound smart as ****. But For some reason I really agree with what you wrote.

I don't understand what he wrote, but I agree too. In fact I didn't read it....."analytics", "factoids"........

Why bother?

 

[TheEye]

We’re playing Bethune-F*cking-Cookman.

Yes, but UL Monroe nearly beat FSU.

 

[TheMatador]

Back in the early Cane years when the dynasty was being form there was a nose tackle Tony Fitzpatrick short guy not big at all 5'10" 2430 maybe but what a load he was always double teamed he was a nightmare to block he played the way he trained one tough dude he was.

GOCANES

Yes. Took on the all-world Nebraska center (was that Dave Rimington?) in '84 OB and did well against a supposed monster.

I think his backup was Darin MacMurray who was even smaller, around 230. A 280lb OL was huge then.

Did not know Fitzpatrick was only 5'10". Listed at 6'.
.
I think Tony ended up coaching at Houston.

 

[TheEye]

Manny is doing an incredible job so far. Right now, it's not about results. It's about process. This team isn't winning anything, other than potentially the pathetic coastal, so the focus needs to be on sustained improvement.


The process is heading undeniably in the right direction:
-Incredible progress from the QB position. 71% completions after 2 away games vs solid P5 teams is incredible. We were at 50% in all games last year. This is a huge part of football and cannot be understated.
-OL is extremely young, yet is running the ball very well, and pass pro is improving quickly.
-Special teams remains a work in progress. But the fact he knows he personally has to fix it, and is therefore dedicating his time to it, is encouraging. The way he talks about it is also encouraging. You can see he clearly focuses on KPIs. This is how big-time managers solve problems in the real world: he has broken it down into its component parts, has defined success criteria for each of them (e.g. hidden yardage in punting), and is working towards solutions aligned with that success criteria.
-The recent changes to our recruiting policies were long over due.
-The way he talked about his decision-making processes for going for it on 4th downs and using timeouts was excellent. He is analytical, well-prepared, and knows how to apply theory to reality. He seems like the type of person that would excel in anything he does, be it coaching football, had he stayed at ESPN, or had he entered the business world.


Fans need to stop worrying about wins and losses. Results don't always track performance in the short-term - especially in close games. You need larger sample sizes for that to happen. The most respected analytical systems (Sagarin, FPI, S&P) all have us in the top 30. This is a solid young team headed in the right direction.

This is what all Temple coaches say.

 

[TheMatador]

I think that Manolo is being way to ho-hum about the problems that we are encountering. Accountability is something which is held in high regard in any successful organization.

He needs to start by growing a pair and putting people on notice, meaning Baker, Patke, Banda, Baxa, etc.. Our special teams have been atrocious for years. He needs to hire a real special teams coach with experience and success.

If Baker can’t hack it, then Manolo needs to call defensive plays and let Baker be the DC in title only. Can’t risk another terrible season. The stakes with our future recruiting classes are too high to be complacent.

You bet your *** that Saban, Meyer, and Dabo would be holding coaches and players accountable for the **** show that we’ve been subjected to thus far this season.

I understand that we have a bunch of young players at very important positions. But some of the errors that have cost us big in the first 2 games are coaching 101. Dude needs to stop being so nice, and start being a ****.

He needs to put Julio Frenk on notice. Schools with the right priorities make the president accountable to the football coach.

 

[TheMatador]

Here's my take , when you put in the work and I'll steal a ROCKY movie phase I heard when the bald trainer said " with all your love with all your blood " may be off a little bit here but you get the message.
When you've trained physically till you drop in exhaustion and still crawl for more when your studying film and playbook till you doze off a sleep and wake up to do more.
Doing these things you raise your game to levels your competitor can't touch another quote Michael Irvin when asked about him not being fast enough back in the day his reply was " I'll run a 4.7 all day long and never stop" see this is the separation factor.

One more story YES I'M PUMPED , spoke years ago with Jim Mandich at a family wedding about what was it was like in the huddle with Dolphin greats in the 70's mad dog said something about looking at ZONKA with his nose pushed into the side of his face blood dripping covering his jersey and he's grumbling GIVE ME THE BALL, this again is the seperation factor now when your whole team is like this YOU DON'T GET BEAT.

GOCANES

Yeah! You don't need your nose to run the ball!

 

[TheMatador]

Manny is doing an incredible job so far. Right now, it's not about results. It's about process. This team isn't winning anything, other than potentially the pathetic coastal, so the focus needs to be on sustained improvement.


The process is heading undeniably in the right direction:
-Incredible progress from the QB position. 71% completions after 2 away games vs solid P5 teams is incredible. We were at 50% in all games last year. This is a huge part of football and cannot be understated.
-OL is extremely young, yet is running the ball very well, and pass pro is improving quickly.
-Special teams remains a work in progress. But the fact he knows he personally has to fix it, and is therefore dedicating his time to it, is encouraging. The way he talks about it is also encouraging. You can see he clearly focuses on KPIs. This is how big-time managers solve problems in the real world: he has broken it down into its component parts, has defined success criteria for each of them (e.g. hidden yardage in punting), and is working towards solutions aligned with that success criteria.
-The recent changes to our recruiting policies were long over due.
-The way he talked about his decision-making processes for going for it on 4th downs and using timeouts was excellent. He is analytical, well-prepared, and knows how to apply theory to reality. He seems like the type of person that would excel in anything he does, be it coaching football, had he stayed at ESPN, or had he entered the business world.


Fans need to stop worrying about wins and losses. Results don't always track performance in the short-term - especially in close games. You need larger sample sizes for that to happen. The most respected analytical systems (Sagarin, FPI, S&P) all have us in the top 30. This is a solid young team headed in the right direction.

I'm not throwing in the towel yet. Two losses by total of 7 points to decent teams. Maybe lost one due to bad calls.

Lot of young players, down by ten in total number on scholarship? Lot still needs to be corrected. We also have a lot of first time starters.

Lot of neurotic fans....getting this right could take more time than I figured. Willing to wait.

 

[TheMatador]

Manny is doing an incredible job so far. Right now, it's not about results. It's about process. This team isn't winning anything, other than potentially the pathetic coastal, so the focus needs to be on sustained improvement.


The process is heading undeniably in the right direction:
-Incredible progress from the QB position. 71% completions after 2 away games vs solid P5 teams is incredible. We were at 50% in all games last year. This is a huge part of football and cannot be understated.
-OL is extremely young, yet is running the ball very well, and pass pro is improving quickly.
-Special teams remains a work in progress. But the fact he knows he personally has to fix it, and is therefore dedicating his time to it, is encouraging. The way he talks about it is also encouraging. You can see he clearly focuses on KPIs. This is how big-time managers solve problems in the real world: he has broken it down into its component parts, has defined success criteria for each of them (e.g. hidden yardage in punting), and is working towards solutions aligned with that success criteria.
-The recent changes to our recruiting policies were long over due.
-The way he talked about his decision-making processes for going for it on 4th downs and using timeouts was excellent. He is analytical, well-prepared, and knows how to apply theory to reality. He seems like the type of person that would excel in anything he does, be it coaching football, had he stayed at ESPN, or had he entered the business world.


Fans need to stop worrying about wins and losses. Results don't always track performance in the short-term - especially in close games. You need larger sample sizes for that to happen. The most respected analytical systems (Sagarin, FPI, S&P) all have us in the top 30. This is a solid young team headed in the right direction.

Where do you see Sagarin and the other ratings? I used to see that stuff years ago....

 

[SayWhat]

Want to bet Bethune-Cookman hangs around until nearly the end of the game until we finally wear them down until the 4th quarter? This team is pure ####. Just like it is every year since 2003.

Sure, name your bet. Easy money here for me.

 

[TheMatador]

Wait was he 2,430lbs or was he from the future year 2,430?

Both, really only in the future will we have defensive lineman that large...through intelligent and state-of-the art use of steroids, other hormones and supplements, modern diet, and human evolution, we will have defensive linemen over one ton.

Tony was a freak-of-nature who Nebraska's All-World (in 1983 standards) center could not block. He arrived on the scene way early as a one-of-a-kind player.

 

[ALLoverCANE]

I think your insulting me but I can’t tell cause you sound smart as ****. But For some reason I really agree with what you wrote.

LOL, I honestly wasn't.

 

[ALLoverCANE]

Where do you see Sagarin and the other ratings? I used to see that stuff years ago....

I just usually Google them.

But for Sagarin, go to sagarin.com, haha.

Here is FPI: http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings

S&P is tougher to find, because the guy who invented it and updates it (Bill Connelly) just got hired by ESPN. He says they're working on incorporating it into the ESPN site, but it's not on there yet. So far, he's been tweeting out updates, so I usually just go to his Twitter feed to try to find it.

I don't know what to make of this site: https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm. It is some sort of composite, but the ratings on there all seem to be measuring different things. Miami is ranked 50th on the composite, but that is because a lot of the ratings are not predictive ratings. For example, RPI is on there. RPI is backwards-looking, so obviously Miami (as an 0-2 team) is going to look bad.

 

[bubbie72]