Diaz talks team as UM looks to bounce back from 0-2 start

[acento]

I want him to show some fire. After every loss, J.J., Dennis and Butch all looked like they had just been to a funeral. They hated losing more than anything else. Just haven’t seen that out of Manny yet. Little Nicky and Urban Liar both have exhibited that same trait throughout their careers.

If the HC doesn’t show the players that a loosing culture is unacceptable by holding everyone accountable, including himself and the other coaches, then it’s a bad sign from the get go.

‘Bama can win a game 45-3, and Saban will look and sound deflated. He’ll talk about how it’s unacceptable to play lackadaisical, and if you don’t want to be there, he’ll ship you out. We were once like that. Under the last few regimes it seems like we’ve become more like a country club.

It’s called not resting on your laurels and expecting greatness every rep, every practice, every day and every Saturday. I’ll say it again, it all starts at the top.

I’m not giving up on Manolo yet, it’s too early in his tenure, but the warning signs are there. If he is flexible in his thinking and really wants to win big, he’ll do what needs to be done when the time comes. If not, he’ll be another carcass in the ever growing list of failed UM corches. I’m hoping that it’s the former.

I agree with your overall sentiment and message. However, I don't think it's fair to equate "showing fire" or emotions during a press conference to success. Golden killed his first press conference. Muschamp was one of the most fiery guys on the field and off. Belichick looks the exact same way no matter what the outcome is.

 

[The Franchise]

It's a lot easier to dismiss a post altogether than it is to debate against the individual points, isn't it?

I can't find much in the post to disagree with, unless you're just set against a general positive tone.

SloppyTop, I appreciate you defending this young man’s honor. But his post was so sappy and cliche-riddled that I assumed it was schtick. If he was serious it makes it even funnier.

The dude actually said results don’t matter, and you think that post is anything worth reading or responding to? Come on.

 

[Salt]

Why treat special teams like red headed step child? Everyone pitching in means no one really puts the time into it. That phase of the game is why we are still 0-2. Hire a dedicated special teams guy already!

 

[WhatTheHell]

“Here’s the rare thing - he’s a guy that stayed, a guy that loves Miami.”

Manndy has been saying this dumb shlt a lot, especially in recruiting. “We want guys “who LOVE Miami.” How about recruiting studs that can play ball instead?

I love Miami, Manndy— could you milk me?

 

[g8rh8rMD]

I don't care what anyone says at this point. The results on the field will speak for themselves.

Get. It. Done.

 

[PoppaTop]

SloppyTop, I appreciate you defending this young man’s honor. But his post was so sappy and cliche-riddled that I assumed it was schtick. If he was serious it makes it even funnier.

The dude actually said results don’t matter, and you think that post is anything worth reading or responding to? Come on.

I don't see that statement anywhere, French Fries. Extrapolate as you see fit, but what was said is that win/loss results don't always track performance in the short term - which is accurate.

In 2013 we won our first 7 games, but our underlying numbers were atrocious. Everyone knew the bottom would fall out, and it did. This season to date is a bit of an inverse scenario where regression to the mean is bound to happen eventually.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Back in the early Cane years when the dynasty was being form there was a nose tackle Tony Fitzpatrick short guy not big at all 5'10" 2430 maybe but what a load he was always double teamed he was a nightmare to block he played the way he trained one tough dude he was.

GOCANES

A very close friend..attended ND game with him.

 

[CanefaninBuckeyeland]

SloppyTop, I appreciate you defending this young man’s honor. But his post was so sappy and cliche-riddled that I assumed it was schtick. If he was serious it makes it even funnier.

The dude actually said results don’t matter, and you think that post is anything worth reading or responding to? Come on.

I get what he was trying to say, but he definitely should have left out the "winning doesn't matter " part. At the end of the day, this is a zero-sum proposition: either you win or you lose (lose not loose, lol). BUT winning does have to be reproducible, sustainable, and purposeful. That's where the systems in place, culture, etc. come into play. The elite programs have these in place. An example would be two years ago when we were winning but, if we were being honest with ourselves, we knew it wasn't sustainable with Malweak Rosier and CMR's antiquated way of doing things. And when we started losing again, there were no mechanisms or systems to fall back on to get back to winning. I think this is what Diaz is doing, but we need to see some results real soon. Jmo

 

[CaneDogX]

“Here’s the rare thing - he’s a guy that stayed, a guy that loves Miami.”

Manndy has been saying this dumb shlt a lot, especially in recruiting. “We want guys “who LOVE Miami.” How about recruiting studs that can play ball instead?

I love Miami, Manndy— could you milk me?

Instead of kids that bolt at the first sniff of the NFL... end up drafted in the 7th round then flame out and make a practice squad. Listen to what the man is saying, jeesh.

 

[GOCANES05]

A very close friend..attended ND game with him.

He was a lion heart fierce competitor.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

He was a lion heart fierce competitor.

He's without question one of the nicest people I know...100% class act...

 

[ALLoverCANE]

Here we go yet again. We’ve gone through this same **** over and over again for over 15 years now. Porsters like yourself blindly defending whatever new HC is supposed to be the new savior of the U, all else be damned. It’s beginning to resemble Groundhog Day.

As I stated before, I’m pulling for Manolo to succeed, as the Canes winning is what matters most at the end of the day.

As far as Saban’s comments are concerned, you can find tape of him from just a couple of years ago lambasting the team after they had won by over 40 points. That’s called staying on top of ****. Most players don’t like Saban’s personality, but they know two things about him:

1. He’ll be tough on them, many times he’ll be an @$$hole, but at the end of the day they will win at a high rate.

2. He will develop them and put them in positions to succeed on the field.

I can’t stand the guy, but he can coach. He also surrounds himself with competent people. The bag game helps him land the top fish, but you can have a team filled with 5-Star players and still suck. In this day and age, coaching and development are paramount.

How am I "blindly defending" anyone? I gave a detailed explanation of why I believe he's doing a great job, including providing specific, supporting evidence and data, at both granular and big picture levels.

Your comments on Saban are a big fat nothing burger. It takes more than screaming at players to be a great coach. For some coaches, it's the opposite: Brian Kelly mellowed out a few years ago and ND has been a perennial NY6 team ever since. Dabo succeeds with a totally different personality than either of them. So does Urban Meyer. Saban has his own style, which goes well beyond yelling at his players. We live in a data- and information-rich world. Surely you can craft a better argument than that.

But I guess that's just the formula at CIS. Rather than make rational arguments and counter-arguments based on evidence, just tell the other person that they're "blindly defending" or "slurping", if they're in favor of the coach, or that they're a "hater" or "Butch lover" if they're against the coach.

 

[SWFLHurricane]

He was a lion heart fierce competitor.

 

[GOCANES05]

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Awesome brother, please share with him that he left a mark that's still here.

GOCANES

 

[SWFLHurricane]

Awesome brother, please share with him that he left a mark that's still here.

GOCANES

He Bleeds Orange and Green...Lives outside of Houston.

 

[Bipolarcane]

Manny is doing an incredible job so far. Right now, it's not about results. It's about process. This team isn't winning anything, other than potentially the pathetic coastal, so the focus needs to be on sustained improvement.


The process is heading undeniably in the right direction:
-Incredible progress from the QB position. 71% completions after 2 away games vs solid P5 teams is incredible. We were at 50% in all games last year. This is a huge part of football and cannot be understated.
-OL is extremely young, yet is running the ball very well, and pass pro is improving quickly.
-Special teams remains a work in progress. But the fact he knows he personally has to fix it, and is therefore dedicating his time to it, is encouraging. The way he talks about it is also encouraging. You can see he clearly focuses on KPIs. This is how big-time managers solve problems in the real world: he has broken it down into its component parts, has defined success criteria for each of them (e.g. hidden yardage in punting), and is working towards solutions aligned with that success criteria.
-The recent changes to our recruiting policies were long over due.
-The way he talked about his decision-making processes for going for it on 4th downs and using timeouts was excellent. He is analytical, well-prepared, and knows how to apply theory to reality. He seems like the type of person that would excel in anything he does, be it coaching football, had he stayed at ESPN, or had he entered the business world.


Fans need to stop worrying about wins and losses. Results don't always track performance in the short-term - especially in close games. You need larger sample sizes for that to happen. The most respected analytical systems (Sagarin, FPI, S&P) all have us in the top 30. This is a solid young team headed in the right direction.

Yes let’s be happy cause a bunch of nerd stats that say we are better than last year. Manny the analytics genius is a nerds wet dream, and If we go 6-6 and the S-P 500 or sauron from power rangers say we are in the top 30 we should all be happy. It’s all about expectations people, silly you for wanting you team to win games and not be happy about a bunch of stats created by a bunch of geeks jerking off to third down conversations inside of three minutes on cloudy days. Not attacking you just stating my two cents.

 

[GOCANES05]

He Bleeds Orange and Green...Lives outside of Houston.

One of the things I was trying to get across and Tony is a perfect example , people look at his picture take a good look he's not a big man at all. Tony played over some of the toughest dudes in college football and if any could be asked what they thought of Tony I assure you they'd say he was one bad dude to battle for 4 quarters.

The only way he can do what he did was to refuse to get beat in practice or the game giving all his heart (love) and blood this is the mindset / heart-set we're trying to achieve take all this and make it contagious through out the team and we DO NOT LOOSE.

GOCANES

 

[SWFLHurricane]

One of the things I was trying to get across and Tony is a perfect example , people look at his picture take a good look he's not a big man at all. Tony play over some of the toughest dude in college football and if any could be asked what they thought of Tony I assure you they'd say he was one bad dude to battle for 4 quarters.

They one way he can do what he did was to refuse to get beat in practice or the game giving all his heart (love) and blood this is the mindset / heart-set we're trying to achieve take all this and make it contagious through out the team and we DO NOT LOOSE.

GOCANES

He said he was 100% Totally spent after the 84 Nebraska game...completely exhausted

 

[GOCANES05]

He said he was 100% Totally spent after the 84 Nebraska game...completely exhausted

Question please people , how many players on this team now can say this about the first (2) games totally spent physically, this is one of the REASONS AND THE WHYS were 0-2

GOCANES

 

[The Franchise]

I don't see that statement anywhere, French Fries. Extrapolate as you see fit, but what was said is that win/loss results don't always track performance in the short term - which is accurate.

In 2013 we won our first 7 games, but our underlying numbers were atrocious. Everyone knew the bottom would fall out, and it did. This season to date is a bit of an inverse scenario where regression to the mean is bound to happen eventually.

SloppyTop, your boyfriend said “it’s not about results.” If you’re over the age of 15 and have any life experience at all, you would know it’s always about the results. He followed that putrefaction up with even more loads of sappy cheerleader cliches. That’s why I assumed it was schtick.

I’m not one of the dopes who has made a determination on Shanny in either direction. I gave him the benefit of the doubt up to squirting the sheets against a vastly inferior UNC team. Now I’m in the “show me” mode because he removed from the “benefit of the doubt” mode by doing exactly what the last 4 failures have done—fielding a sloppy, unprepared team that can’t put together an even performance in all 3 phases.