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Diaz speaks on Pitt win, personnel updates, and FSU rivalry

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MIA42178 said:
dominating means huge kick returns, blocks, and turnovers

we just didn’t **** up this week

manny continues to lower the bar in every phase
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+15 yards of field position, on average, is total domination.

The national average is to start a drive on your own 29. Pitt started on their own 24. We started on our own 39. Some of that was turnovers, but we netted a lot of yards on kicks.

It was an A or A- performance on special teams. Hedley and Baxa combined for 25 penalty yards, otherwise it was a perfect special teams performance.

If you don't think it matters to play on an 85 yard field vs a 100 yard field, you're probably the type of guy that watches sports for the home runs and the dunks. Those things are great, but there's a lot more that goes into winning and losing.

Special teams has been a thorn in our side for 2 years now. Huge performance out of that unit Saturday.
 
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Rellyrell said:
OBM, just stop bro.

Just b/c something “worked” doesn’t mean it’s the right move.

Allow me to refresh your mind to how we got here:


He pulled JW after a bad quarter against VT; he then says Jarren is still our guy, publicly, only to start Perry the next game against UVA.

He then says Perry started over Jarren b/c Jarren was dealing w a separated shoulder.

Perry struggles a bit against GT, gets injured, JW, miraculously, comes in, gets sacked, Perry comes back in after said injury. We lose.

No QB decision is made as to who starts against Pitt, although it was reported both QBs r dealing w separated shoulders.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, a healthy Tate is not given any consideration, yet was promised a “fair” shot. He’s now gone on “medical” leave of absence.

OK, back to the corridors of Green Tree; Perry gets the nod, although Perry is injured, and JW is most healthy. Oh, did I neglect to mention that JW was given the approval that he was the man to start the season, that he wouldn’t have to look over his shoulders, and that was very important for a young QB to know he’s the guy? (Enos/Diaz words).

Alright, ff back to the Pitt game....Perry is now given the keys, and is not able to drive the car w two hands on the wheel. It’s OK, b/c he’s been given the nod to start, but all of a sudden, Perry is too injured, and JW gets the keys. Wait, let me back it up....JW was supposedly healthy, and Perry was injured, yet Manny went w the injured QB.

OK, OK, back to the Pitt game; Jarren comes in, leads a come back win. His reward? Wait to see if his efforts were good enough to get the nod to start at FSU come Wed.


NOTHING about this is appropriately handled. Diaz has no plans and that’s why we look like schmucks on the field, winning games 16-12 against ACC Corstal teams.
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You are making a lot of speculative assumptions regarding player health here without really knowing the extent of how badly each player was hurt. Not every shoulder separation, or injury is the same, nor do we know how these injuries affected each QB

You are also omitting the effect the situation that supposedly occured at practice Wednesday influencing who got the start.

There seems to have been a lot of moving parts to what affected the QB situation last Saturday, and we really don't t know any of it.

Jmo.
 
Go Canes!! said:
You are making a lot of speculative assumptions regarding player health here without really knowing the extent of how badly each player was hurt. Not every shoulder separation, or injury is the same, nor do we know how these injuries affected each QB

You are also omitting the effect the situation that supposedly occured at practice Wednesday influencing who got the start.

There seems to have been a lot of moving parts to what affected the QB situation last Saturday, and we really don't t know any of it.

Jmo.
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How am I making “assumptions?”

Furthermore, if accountability is really of utmost importance, then Williams had no business playing if he w/d from practice Weds for no valid reason other than frustration.
 
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Rellyrell said:
How am I making “assumptions?”

Furthermore, if accountability is really of utmost importance, then Williams had no business playing if he w/d from practice Weds for no valid reason other than frustration.
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You are assuming Jarren was healthy enough to "be the guy" after VT but Perry still got the start.

You are assuming Perry was hurt and Jarren "was mostly healthy"

You are assuming something other than injury had Jarren "looking over his shoulder" after being named starter.

You are assuming Tate's medical leave had anything to do with not getting the start or a chance at QB when you really don't know.

You are assuming the punishment for Jarren bolting Wednesday was anything more than him getting his starting job yanked.

You are assuming not naming a starter against FSU is something other than trying to get a strategic advantage.
 
Rellyrell said:
OBM, just stop bro.

Just b/c something “worked” doesn’t mean it’s the right move.

Allow me to refresh your mind to how we got here:


He pulled JW after a bad quarter against VT; he then says Jarren is still our guy, publicly, only to start Perry the next game against UVA.

He then says Perry started over Jarren b/c Jarren was dealing w a separated shoulder.

Perry struggles a bit against GT, gets injured, JW, miraculously, comes in, gets sacked, Perry comes back in after said injury. We lose.

No QB decision is made as to who starts against Pitt, although it was reported both QBs r dealing w separated shoulders.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, a healthy Tate is not given any consideration, yet was promised a “fair” shot. He’s now gone on “medical” leave of absence.

OK, back to the corridors of Green Tree; Perry gets the nod, although Perry is injured, and JW is most healthy. Oh, did I neglect to mention that JW was given the approval that he was the man to start the season, that he wouldn’t have to look over his shoulders, and that was very important for a young QB to know he’s the guy? (Enos/Diaz words).

Alright, ff back to the Pitt game....Perry is now given the keys, and is not able to drive the car w two hands on the wheel. It’s OK, b/c he’s been given the nod to start, but all of a sudden, Perry is too injured, and JW gets the keys. Wait, let me back it up....JW was supposedly healthy, and Perry was injured, yet Manny went w the injured QB.

OK, OK, back to the Pitt game; Jarren comes in, leads a come back win. His reward? Wait to see if his efforts were good enough to get the nod to start at FSU come Wed.


NOTHING about this is appropriately handled. Diaz has no plans and that’s why we look like schmucks on the field, winning games 16-12 against ACC Corstal teams.
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These meandering posts are really ineffective at making your point. I have no idea what you're trying to say or what your primary argument is.

It somewhat sounds like you are advocating for having started Jarren? Maybe?

Assuming that's the case...let me remind you that Jarren decided to skip practice last week. People have said the word "unacceptable" a lot this year. Jarren just not showing up one day is by far the most unacceptable thing that has happened this year.
 
Rellyrell said:
OBM, just stop bro.

Just b/c something “worked” doesn’t mean it’s the right move.

Allow me to refresh your mind to how we got here:


He pulled JW after a bad quarter against VT; he then says Jarren is still our guy, publicly, only to start Perry the next game against UVA.

He then says Perry started over Jarren b/c Jarren was dealing w a separated shoulder.

Perry struggles a bit against GT, gets injured, JW, miraculously, comes in, gets sacked, Perry comes back in after said injury. We lose.

No QB decision is made as to who starts against Pitt, although it was reported both QBs r dealing w separated shoulders.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, a healthy Tate is not given any consideration, yet was promised a “fair” shot. He’s now gone on “medical” leave of absence.

OK, back to the corridors of Green Tree; Perry gets the nod, although Perry is injured, and JW is most healthy. Oh, did I neglect to mention that JW was given the approval that he was the man to start the season, that he wouldn’t have to look over his shoulders, and that was very important for a young QB to know he’s the guy? (Enos/Diaz words).

Alright, ff back to the Pitt game....Perry is now given the keys, and is not able to drive the car w two hands on the wheel. It’s OK, b/c he’s been given the nod to start, but all of a sudden, Perry is too injured, and JW gets the keys. Wait, let me back it up....JW was supposedly healthy, and Perry was injured, yet Manny went w the injured QB.

OK, OK, back to the Pitt game; Jarren comes in, leads a come back win. His reward? Wait to see if his efforts were good enough to get the nod to start at FSU come Wed.


NOTHING about this is appropriately handled. Diaz has no plans and that’s why we look like schmucks on the field, winning games 16-12 against ACC Corstal teams.
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I don't disagree with a single word of that. You're 100% correct, it has not been handled correctly. But the only thing I said was in response to you saying you can't trust Manny or that he was lying. He was not lying. The plan was to not play Williams. I happen to vehemently disagree with that plan, but that's beside the point. All I was saying is plans change. If Perry plays well, Williams never gets into the game. I guess, technically he could have said, "We're going to start Kosi and have no plans to have another QB play, unless it's necessary"....but that doesn't instill very much confidence in your starter.

There's a lot to ***** about around here these days, much of it deserved and self-inflicted. But people are nitpicking every tiniest thing. Like the Einstein earlier in this thread said, "more talk". Um, it's a press conference. Should he have stood there silently? Hunger strike? Played Angry Birds on his phone? He's the head coach of a football team at a Monday press conference, he's literally there for one singular reason......to talk.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I don't disagree with a single word of that. You're 100% correct, it has not been handled correctly. But the only thing I said was in response to you saying you can't trust Manny or that he was lying. He was not lying. The plan was to not play Williams. I happen to vehemently disagree with that plan, but that's beside the point. All I was saying is plans change. If Perry plays well, Williams never gets into the game. I guess, technically he could have said, "We're going to start Kosi and have no plans to have another QB play, unless it's necessary"....but that doesn't instill very much confidence in your starter.

There's a lot to ***** about around here these days, much of it deserved and self-inflicted. But people are nitpicking every tiniest thing. Like the Einstein earlier in this thread said, "more talk". Um, it's a press conference. Should he have stood there silently? Hunger strike? Played Angry Birds on his phone? He's the head coach of a football team at a Monday press conference, he's literally there for one singular reason......to talk.
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It is getting toxic where we r nitpicking everything, but let me also direct you to other national and local sites that r beginning to do the same thing. Reason being, Manny has not been transparent at all, and he’s contradicting himself left & right. Part of the reason he’s contradicting himself is b/c he spoke so greasy to start the season. Now, he has no other choice but to back peddle or change the narrative. That tends to happen when you begin to realize the chit you speak starts to stink.
 
Special teams champions! Yea!

Now how bout that 3rd down conversion rate? We “sort of” suck at that... among other things

ALLoverCANE said:
+15 yards of field position, on average, is total domination.

The national average is to start a drive on your own 29. Pitt started on their own 24. We started on our own 39. Some of that was turnovers, but we netted a lot of yards on kicks.

It was an A or A- performance on special teams. Hedley and Baxa combined for 25 penalty yards, otherwise it was a perfect special teams performance.

If you don't think it matters to play on an 85 yard field vs a 100 yard field, you're probably the type of guy that watches sports for the home runs and the dunks. Those things are great, but there's a lot more that goes into winning and losing.

Special teams has been a thorn in our side for 2 years now. Huge performance out of that unit Saturday.
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The excuse train is full steam ahead this year...

1) too many byes
2) too many games in a row at home
3) it’s a rebuild

On and on and on

Mnhurricane said:
My favorite part was where he seemed to imply players blaming players for the failed season was what they finally needed to understand. Not oh **** these corches haven’t had the team prepped for one single half yet
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Rellyrell said:
It is getting toxic where we r nitpicking everything, but let me also direct you to other national and local sites that r beginning to do the same thing. Reason being, Manny has not been transparent at all, and he’s contradicting himself left & right. Part of the reason he’s contradicting himself is b/c he spoke so greasy to start the season. Now, he has no other choice but to back peddle or change the narrative. That tends to happen when you begin to realize the chit you speak starts to stink.
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It's actually just wins and losses. If Miami was winning, nobody cares about any of this. But if you lose, then every word gets nitpicked.

Also, this board ATE. UP. Manny's preseason words. Just used them as lube, daily. Now people want him killed over them. Kind of fickle, but when you lose, that's what happens. To me though, I very rarely listen to anything coaches say. They're ALL liars. They're ALL bull**** artists. Every single team in August is going to go 12-0, so what's the point of caring what these dudes say? Manny said Miami is going to play hard, they're going to uphold a standard, blah blah blah. Have they not played hard? They just stink. Maybe I don't see as many lies as y'all do since I didn't really pay attention all off-season, but isn't every coach who loses a liar by this logic? Nobody gets to a podium in August and says, "**** man, we are gonna absolutely blow this season." It's all roses and bravado.
 
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ithacane said:
Special teams champions! Yea!

Now how bout that 3rd down conversion rate? We “sort of” suck at that... among other things
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Let me address each of those separately.

Special Teams
Special teams has been the worst unit on the team for 2 years running. It has consistently had a sub-100 ranking, week after week, for the last 2 years. It was also not a very good unit in 2017. It has cost us multiple games each of the past two seasons (last year: GT, Duke, maybe even LSU; this year: UF, UNC, GT). It is therefore worth appreciating when we put together an excellent special teams performance. Hopefully that becomes the norm.

3rd Downs
What about 3rd down conversion rate? Yes, we have struggled mightily there. What is your point? My comment was about special teams. We need to improve significantly on 3rd downs. That is obvious. Your comment reeks of whataboutism.

"Sort of"
What do you do for a living? Everyone uses filler words and phrases. It takes a concerted effort and much practice to eliminate them from your speech. Public speaking coaching can help, too. I'm sure Manny has received some coaching in this area, as do many/most people who speak to large audiences as part of their jobs. Manny doesn't seem to use a ton of filler words, but it's an easy habit to slip back into. Overall he's a good public speaker - in fact, he's been criticized for being too good a public speaker by this board.

Do you not use any filler words? Are you a professional public speaker? Do you have an extraordinarily crisp vocabulary at all times? If you believe you don't use filler words, that probably reflects a lack of self-awareness more than anything else. Pay close attention to your speech for a couple of days and you'll realize you use them all the time.


Criticism of Manny and this team is totally fair. But the things many of you guys will grasp at are embarrassing.
 
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JD08 said:
Would you prefer if I had said more platitudes that will never be backed up by any meaningful action?
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Yes. Because that's at least a real statement that can be debated.

It can be debated by pointing out that our penalties have improved dramatically. The OL, although still quite bad, has also improved. Our special teams look to be improving. Heck, tackling improved dramatically in just one week (although on the year it's been decent on average).

So clearly your statement is wrong: that's what happens when you make simplistic, hyperbolic claims ("never", "any").

The question is will those improvements persist, and will other areas start to see similar improvements.
 
ALLoverCANE said:
Yes. Because that's at least a real statement that can be debated.

It can be debated by pointing out that our penalties have improved dramatically. The OL, although still quite bad, has also improved. Our special teams look to be improving. Heck, tackling improved dramatically in just one week (although on the year it's been decent on average).

So clearly your statement is wrong: that's what happens when you make simplistic, hyperbolic claims ("never", "any").

The question is will those improvements persist, and will other areas start to see similar improvements.
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This a college football fan forum. I don't need to make statements that are 100% defensible. So you can celebrate fewer penalties and improved O line play and I'll happy point out the weakest offensive performance of the year. All your moral victories and marginal improvements aren't showing up on the scoreboard. Therefore, all the talk about improving is just that.

So like I said, more talk.
 
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