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JamesQuall said:
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James, if he commits here do you think Hoover will cause a Great Depression on CIS?

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TexasCane90 said:
Put him on those teams does he lift them up? Answer the question

The verdict is In with him as an NFL BUST of a 1st rounder who failed to lift his team up
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Would it be better to be like Stetson Bennett who has not touched the field yet? I contend both qbs lifted their teams up in college, as did Beck.

However, the main thing I wanna address is that our OC is literally looking for the next Mac Jones. The athletic has a great story about him recruiting Mac at Kentucky. That’s the type of QB he wants.

Mac committed to Dawson & Stoops, and UK was his first SEC offer. Stoops let Dawson go, and then Dawson & Southern Miss beat Stoops to open up the following season. Mac Jones flipped to Bama shortly afterwards.
 
TwentySix said:
Yes. That same Mac Jones. The one that was lifted up by the talent around him (1st and 3rd round running backs, 2 top 10 drafted receivers (including the heisman winner) and another 2nd rounder, Joe Moore award oline (all 5 of which would make All-SEC in their career, and included both the Outland and Rimington winners in 2020)

Unless the rest of that team is walking through the door, I’m good on “Mac Jones Types”. It’s not an exaggeration to say roughly half his touchdowns came from having all day for Devonta Smith to put a double move on someone and lob it up to him 10 yards behind the defense.
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I’m not here to slurp Mac Jones. Every award winner and all-everything player on those teams benefited from playing with the rest of them. Not just Mac Jones.

I understand the case you are making. I just think that undersells what he did to contribute to those teams. Nobody had to drag him along.
 
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MizCane said:
Agreed we need experience but a loss to ND game 1 is not going to be a reason we don’t make the playoffs. They lose to NIU and turned it around. We play a much harder schedule than they did so if we can win 10 still have a good shot.
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😂😂😂😂
You are dreaming
If we don’t get auto bid
We are not getting in

ESPN and that so called selection committee won’t look beyond SEC and B10 teams
That’s guaranteed
 
cookies said:
Would it be better to be like Stetson Bennett who has not touched the field yet? I contend both qbs lifted their teams up in college, as did Beck.

However, the main thing I wanna address is that our OC is literally looking for the next Mac Jones. The athletic has a great story about him recruiting Mac at Kentucky. That’s the type of QB he wants.

Mac committed to Dawson & Stoops, and UK was his first SEC offer. Stoops let Dawson go, and then Dawson & Southern Miss beat Stoops to open up the following season. Mac Jones flipped to Bama shortly afterwards.
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How do you know what he’s looking for? Your in the room with him, Mario and the NIL contacts they back channel?

No you’re guessing… we apparently were throwing some good money at mateer the anti game manager.
 
TexasCane90 said:
How do you know what he’s looking for? Your in the room with him, Mario and the NIL contacts they back channel?

No you’re guessing… we apparently were throwing some good money at mateer the anti game manager.
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The difference between our opinion is I am basing it in reality, you are basing it off pure speculation i.e. put Mac Jones on another team and how does he do. Who tf cares or could ever know. I guess 41 touchdowns, 4500 yards, and 4 INTs is the going rate for game managers nowadays.

Obviously everyone is a 1 of 1; however, he literally had Mac Jones committed to his program. He wants quarterbacks with his traits — accurate quarterbacks with supreme confidence in themselves, composure in the pocket. Smart w/ the ball aka low int’s, get rid of the ball quickly, etc.

Dawson met Mac Jones when the Jacksonville quarterback was in the eighth grade. Dawson was coaching at West Virginia, and Jones was on a recruiting tour bus with a bunch of other young prospects. Dawson was blown away by what he saw in the kid’s arm. “His release was unbelievable,” Dawson said.

“Mac always had a picture-perfect release. I told them that if this kid grows up and gets a little bit bigger, I think he could be a really, really high recruit. That kid can throw the football, but he was a little bitty ****.”

The article by Bruce Feldman is titled: Shannon Dawson didn’t land Stetson Bennett or Mac Jones, but he still loves them

Georgia’s Stetson Bennett and Alabama’s Mac Jones have proven to be revelations this season. Neither was a heralded recruit nor expected by many to become leading men when they arrived on their campuses.

Dawson was the first coach in major college football to believe in both of them, and even though he never got to coach either one for a single down, he couldn’t be happier about the way this has worked out.

Both Stetson’s dad and Mac’s dad commented for the article & had nothing but great things to say about how Dawson was ahead of the curve in believing in their kids.
 
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cookies said:
The difference between our opinion is I am basing it in reality, you are basing it off pure speculation i.e. put Mac Jones on another team and how does he do. Who tf cares or could ever know. I guess 41 touchdowns, 4500 yards, and 4 INTs is the going rate for game managers nowadays.

Obviously everyone is a 1 of 1; however, he literally had Mac Jones committed to his program. He wants quarterbacks with his traits — accurate quarterbacks with supreme confidence in themselves, composure in the pocket. Smart w/ the ball aka low int’s, get rid of the ball quickly, etc.

Dawson met Mac Jones when the Jacksonville quarterback was in the eighth grade. Dawson was coaching at West Virginia, and Jones was on a recruiting tour bus with a bunch of other young prospects. Dawson was blown away by what he saw in the kid’s arm. “His release was unbelievable,” Dawson said.

“Mac always had a picture-perfect release. I told them that if this kid grows up and gets a little bit bigger, I think he could be a really, really high recruit. That kid can throw the football, but he was a little bitty ****.”

The article by Bruce Feldman is titled: Shannon Dawson didn’t land Stetson Bennett or Mac Jones, but he still loves them

Georgia’s Stetson Bennett and Alabama’s Mac Jones have proven to be revelations this season. Neither was a heralded recruit nor expected by many to become leading men when they arrived on their campuses.

Dawson was the first coach in major college football to believe in both of them, and even though he never got to coach either one for a single down, he couldn’t be happier about the way this has worked out.

Both Stetson’s dad and Mac’s mom commented for the article & had nothing but great things to say about how Dawson was ahead of the curve in believing in their kids.
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Dawson said Mac had an incredible in-person workout at UK. Mac had just left Wake Forrest without an offer. Elsewhere the article mentions what he loved about the two qbs on film, as well as the importance of measuring their hands in person.

Dawson recalled going home that night and discussing the spindly quarterback with his wife. “I was like, I love the kid. But I just don’t know if he’s gonna be big enough to play in this league because he was real skinny. I said, ‘This is a this is a big boy league, not that all Division I isn’t, but you know how that league.’

But the good thing about my situation there was (Kentucky head coach) Mark (Stoops) didn’t really care what kind of quarterback I took, he just wanted him to be rated high because he wanted to look good in recruiting. It wasn’t like Southern Miss where nobody else could make decisions.”

Still, that next morning Dawson was still 50-50 about whether he should pull the trigger. He was talking to Jones and his parents about what impressed him most about the young quarterback.

“I basically said, ‘Mac throws the ball as good as I’ve seen in person. He’s got a natural release,’ and then his mom who is this short, little petite blonde who doesn’t say a whole lot, goes, ‘Well, don’t be a *****. Offer him.’ I looked at her and I was like, Did she just really say that? I laughed, and I said, ‘Well, you got a Kentucky offer, brother.’ And that kind of put me over the edge really, because I was like, I like that.”

Jones’ father Gordon told The Athletic’s Andy Staples last week that Mac probably wouldn’t have flipped to Alabama from Kentucky had Dawson not been let go in December 2015.

Dawson and Gordon Jones still talk often. The coach is thrilled to see Mac Jones, who was able to hold off another five-star talent in freshman Bryce Young, carving up SEC defenses now that has his shot. Jones leads the FBS in passer rating at 220.35. He’s completing 80 percent of his passes for the most explosive offense in the country, averaging 8.66 yards per play (GAME MANAGER STATS)

Dawson has a real sense of pride in seeing how both quarterbacks have performed and said they are a good reminder for what to look for — and what not to lose sight of — in the recruiting process.
 
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cookies said:
Dawson recalled going home that night and discussing the spindly quarterback with his wife. “I was like, I love the kid. But I just don’t know if he’s gonna be big enough to play in this league because he was real skinny. I said, ‘This is a this is a big boy league, not that all Division I isn’t, but you know how that league.’

But the good thing about my situation there was (Kentucky head coach) Mark (Stoops) didn’t really care what kind of quarterback I took, he just wanted him to be rated high because he wanted to look good in recruiting. It wasn’t like Southern Miss where nobody else could make decisions.”

Still, that next morning Dawson was still 50-50 about whether he should pull the trigger. He was talking to Jones and his parents about what impressed him most about the young quarterback.

“I basically said, ‘Mac throws the ball as good as I’ve seen in person. He’s got a natural release,’ and then his mom who is this short, little petite blonde who doesn’t say a whole lot, goes, ‘Well, don’t be a *****. Offer him.’ I looked at her and I was like, Did she just really say that? I laughed, and I said, ‘Well, you got a Kentucky offer, brother.’ And that kind of put me over the edge really, because I was like, I like that.”

Jones’ father Gordon told The Athletic’s Andy Staples last week that Mac probably wouldn’t have flipped to Alabama from Kentucky had Dawson not been let go in December 2015.

Dawson and Gordon Jones still talk often. The coach is thrilled to see Mac Jones, who was able to hold off another five-star talent in freshman Bryce Young, carving up SEC defenses now that has his shot. Jones leads the FBS in passer rating at 220.35. He’s completing 80 percent of his passes for the most explosive offense in the country, averaging 8.66 yards per play (GAME MANAGER STATS)

Dawson has a real sense of pride in seeing how both quarterbacks have performed and said they are a good reminder for what to look for — and what not to lose sight of — in the recruiting process.
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I GUESS THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL “GUESSING” 😹🤣

“I think coaches sometimes, especially recruiting quarterbacks, they overanalyze things,” Dawson said. “They want everything to be in this pretty little package, where it’s a no-brainer, and that’s just not the case. You got to see something in the kid that kind of triggers you, and to me, it’s all about accuracy. You look at all these quarterbacks that are five-star kids, and they don’t all work out. Typically, the reason they don’t work out is because they’re not accurate. Like you can have a strong arm, and you can be athletic. You can have all these things, but if you can’t throw the football accurately from point A to point B, you’re going to struggle as a quarterback. The fact of the matter is, if you can’t throw the football accurately, you can get all these quarterback gurus you want to help you, it just ain’t happening, brother.

“Your throwing motion has been ingrained into your body since you’ve been throwing rocks as a little kid, and you’re not changing that. You can change it in a drill, but once live action happens, you’re reverting back to what’s natural, and good luck. Stetson was extremely accurate. Mac was unbelievably accurate. They had great releases. I didn’t really care what the package look like around them. I just knew, this kid can throw the football accurately with a great release, and we can build around them. That’s the way I’ve always viewed recruiting the quarterback.”

Asked which team he will be rooting on Saturday night, Dawson laughed. He just wants to see a high-scoring game.
 
Morey161 said:
Hoover is the one I've been thinking of. Would be very happy with this.
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I would suggest turning on your TV and watching some college football before making a claim like the. He is nothing more than a running back. I get it he had stats but he was super inconsistent on any pass past 5 yards and has TVD’s ability to read the defense
 
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Squid Bumciorek said:
I don’t know anything about him other than the stat line. He looks like a pretty good passer. Doesnt seem to be much of a runner but not that important in an Air Raid offense. Plus he’s only a sophomore.
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If you look past the stats he struggled against any defense with a pulse. He made UCF and that chubby uncoordinated joke of of a qb look like Jayden Daniels in comparison.
 
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