Defensive numbers this year….****

[EmileLilly]

There's not much you can do if you can't stop the run or put pressure on the QB.

We weren't able to do neither, so the results shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[Dandycane]

Which is why all these stud recruits coming in don't mean a god **** thing.

This scheme isn't good enough for a highschool team

thats the dumbest **** on here. I get we have issues with our defensive scheme, but talent makes bad coaches look good and no talent makes all coaches look bad. Belichick in Cleveland, Muschamp without his playmakers this year, Shannon was a monster D coord when he had Vilma, Wilfor, Reed…. He is the LB coach for one of the worst D's in the nation now.

Bringing in the studs that we will bring in this year will make a monster difference. The DLinemen alone we're bringing in are better then any we've brought in in over 10 years.

Shut up already

We are more talented than Duke, UVA, GT, Wake, Maryland, Boston College, UNC.........we all play the exact same schedule..........yet we are MUCH MUCH worse than they are...............for the past 3 years in a row.

Talent in this scheme doesn't matter. This scheme isn't for talented players. It's to protect the players from giving up big plys by allowing 5-12 yard gains underneath EVERY play.

Sean Taylor 25 yards back pre snap wouldn't do **** either. This scheme is for losers and any kid that wants to play in it is a loser

Still waiting for any evidence that our DL talent compares favorably to any of the teams you listed.

 

[whoopingcane]

 

[Ghandi]

LMFAO

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

yeah, if you exclude the same cupcakes that everyone plays we suck in comparison - that's an extremely stupid argument

exactly, lets cherry pick only the cupcakes off Miami schedule and leave everyone's elses on their schedule..
Makes sense.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Which is why all these stud recruits coming in don't mean a god **** thing.

This scheme isn't good enough for a highschool team

thats the dumbest **** on here. I get we have issues with our defensive scheme, but talent makes bad coaches look good and no talent makes all coaches look bad. Belichick in Cleveland, Muschamp without his playmakers this year, Shannon was a monster D coord when he had Vilma, Wilfor, Reed…. He is the LB coach for one of the worst D's in the nation now.

Bringing in the studs that we will bring in this year will make a monster difference. The DLinemen alone we're bringing in are better then any we've brought in in over 10 years.

Shut up already

We are more talented than Duke, UVA, GT, Wake, Maryland, Boston College, UNC.........we all play the exact same schedule..........yet we are MUCH MUCH worse than they are...............for the past 3 years in a row.

Talent in this scheme doesn't matter. This scheme isn't for talented players. It's to protect the players from giving up big plys by allowing 5-12 yard gains underneath EVERY play.

Sean Taylor 25 yards back pre snap wouldn't do **** either. This scheme is for losers and any kid that wants to play in it is a loser

with the same scheme With Vilma and Sean Taylor PITT doesn't score on that 45 yard run play they had for their 1st TD. At best it's a 3 yard gain.
Disagree?

 

[donutface]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

yeah, if you exclude the same cupcakes that everyone plays we suck in comparison - that's an extremely stupid argument

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 2m
In games against ACC opponents, #Canes went from second-to-last in total D (504.9) to last (481.9). Flip-flopped with Duke.

Miami also blew out 3 ACC opponents this year and gave up a great deal of yards in garbage time. Last year they didn't play in a single blowout and ran their regular defense the entire game.

Take away GaTech's garbage drive, UVA's 2 garbage drives, and Pitt's 1 garbage drive, and that lowers the defense down to around 440 yards per game. Not incredible, but certainly better than last year.

Good thing FSU was in so many nail biters or their stats would look as bad as ours.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

yeah, if you exclude the same cupcakes that everyone plays we suck in comparison - that's an extremely stupid argument

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 2m
In games against ACC opponents, #Canes went from second-to-last in total D (504.9) to last (481.9). Flip-flopped with Duke.

Miami also blew out 3 ACC opponents this year and gave up a great deal of yards in garbage time. Last year they didn't play in a single blowout and ran their regular defense the entire game.

Take away GaTech's garbage drive, UVA's 2 garbage drives, and Pitt's 1 garbage drive, and that lowers the defense down to around 440 yards per game. Not incredible, but certainly better than last year.

Good thing FSU was in so many nail biters or their stats would look as bad as ours.

I'm sorry, was FSU recruiting their way through NCAA bull**** for the last 2 1/2 years? Didn't they get a 2 year head start in recruiting (one year of coach-in-waiting, then one extra year of head coaching)? Didn't they get a recruiting season where both Miami and Florida had coaching changes (2011)?

It shouldn't surprise anyone that FSU has more talent and more depth than we do at this point. But look at where things are going now that the playing field is leveling. South Florida's best are staying home.

 

[cane33]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

Why are you all mad?

Up 10 spots. Allowing 11 less yards than last season. That's improvement! It's a process.

 

[dk72]

Which is why all these stud recruits coming in don't mean a god **** thing.

This scheme isn't good enough for a highschool team

thats the dumbest **** on here. I get we have issues with our defensive scheme, but talent makes bad coaches look good and no talent makes all coaches look bad. Belichick in Cleveland, Muschamp without his playmakers this year, Shannon was a monster D coord when he had Vilma, Wilfor, Reed…. He is the LB coach for one of the worst D's in the nation now.

Bringing in the studs that we will bring in this year will make a monster difference. The DLinemen alone we're bringing in are better then any we've brought in in over 10 years.

I agree we need to change the scheme, but that's BECAUSE we don't have the talent. The scheme works fine if we were a team 2 deep with talented, fast defenders with high football IQ. The problem is we are not. If D'Onofrio loves this scheme so much, he should wait to enact it until we have the players to run it properly. In the meantime, he has to allow for more aggressive, attacking play because the defensive units, all except our cornerbacks, downright suck right now and aren't capable of playing a defense where they have to read and contain.

 

[bbcane]

I've muzzled myself and put all my anger on the shelf until after the Bowl Game.

But if this DC is still employed here after that, it's game time.

Wait till after signing day

 

[M3N]

I posted the same #s in my thread. This should not be a surprise to anyone. We are worse in a few categories then last year

 

[hcanes100]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

at that rate of progress, we'll be back to '1 in 11 years...

 

[hcanes100]

lulz...

 

[The Franchise]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

yeah, if you exclude the same cupcakes that everyone plays we suck in comparison - that's an extremely stupid argument

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 2m
In games against ACC opponents, #Canes went from second-to-last in total D (504.9) to last (481.9). Flip-flopped with Duke.

Miami also blew out 3 ACC opponents this year and gave up a great deal of yards in garbage time. Last year they didn't play in a single blowout and ran their regular defense the entire game.

Take away GaTech's garbage drive, UVA's 2 garbage drives, and Pitt's 1 garbage drive, and that lowers the defense down to around 440 yards per game. Not incredible, but certainly better than last year.

3 posts up you were bemoaning guys taking away cupcakes because everyone else plays cupcakes. Now you want to take away drives at the end of games. You think anyone else in the ACC gave up yards at the end of games too?

 

[NorthFlaCane]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

yeah, if you exclude the same cupcakes that everyone plays we suck in comparison - that's an extremely stupid argument

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 2m
In games against ACC opponents, #Canes went from second-to-last in total D (504.9) to last (481.9). Flip-flopped with Duke.

Miami also blew out 3 ACC opponents this year and gave up a great deal of yards in garbage time. Last year they didn't play in a single blowout and ran their regular defense the entire game.

Take away GaTech's garbage drive, UVA's 2 garbage drives, and Pitt's 1 garbage drive, and that lowers the defense down to around 440 yards per game. Not incredible, but certainly better than last year.

3 posts up you were bemoaning guys taking away cupcakes because everyone else plays cupcakes. Now you want to take away drives at the end of games. You think anyone else in the ACC gave up yards at the end of games too?

No, once people decided to restrict their statistical analysis to Miami's conference schedule (and then point to only a 20 yard per game improvement), then I felt it was necessary to normalize that comparison to account for the differences in the 2 years. I don't care if Miami's ranking actually got worse, I care that their per game performance improved. It still did not improve enough and I'm certainly not calling for D'Onofrio's return, but it's not quite as god awful as these statistical comparisons make it seem.

People forget that the defense kept us in the GaTech, UNC, and Wake games for long period of times while the offense did next to nothing. The defense kind of broke against FSU and never really recovered, but they were showing progress at one point in the year. I think the lack of depth on both sides of the ball contributed to many of our struggles.

 

[The Franchise]

yeah, if you exclude the same cupcakes that everyone plays we suck in comparison - that's an extremely stupid argument

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 2m
In games against ACC opponents, #Canes went from second-to-last in total D (504.9) to last (481.9). Flip-flopped with Duke.

Miami also blew out 3 ACC opponents this year and gave up a great deal of yards in garbage time. Last year they didn't play in a single blowout and ran their regular defense the entire game.

Take away GaTech's garbage drive, UVA's 2 garbage drives, and Pitt's 1 garbage drive, and that lowers the defense down to around 440 yards per game. Not incredible, but certainly better than last year.

3 posts up you were bemoaning guys taking away cupcakes because everyone else plays cupcakes. Now you want to take away drives at the end of games. You think anyone else in the ACC gave up yards at the end of games too?

No, once people decided to restrict their statistical analysis to Miami's conference schedule (and then point to only a 20 yard per game improvement), then I felt it was necessary to normalize that comparison to account for the differences in the 2 years. I don't care if Miami's ranking actually got worse, I care that their per game performance improved. It still did not improve enough and I'm certainly not calling for D'Onofrio's return, but it's not quite as god awful as these statistical comparisons make it seem.

People forget that the defense kept us in the GaTech, UNC, and Wake games for long period of times while the offense did next to nothing. The defense kind of broke against FSU and never really recovered, but they were showing progress at one point in the year. I think the lack of depth on both sides of the ball contributed to many of our struggles.

At the end of the day, you are what you are. And we're awful. The defense showed some progress toward the end of last season too, and then it fell apart again.

You can't start taking away opponents' drives because we were winning at the end of the game. The uva.g, gt, and Pitt games were not total blowouts where we emptied the bench. We were losing late in the GT game, uva.g moved it on us all day, and Pitt had success all day. None of those games were traditional beatdowns where we emptied the bench and the backups got killed.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

I posted the same #s in my thread. This should not be a surprise to anyone. We are worse in a few categories then last year

Please explain why the 2011 run and scoring defense were better then 2010 for the same?
Passing defense declined but after losing Brandon Harris, DVD and Hill that should be expected when their replacements were not upgrades.

Remember the 2010 defense had guys like Bailey, McCarthy, Harris and didn't have to deal with suspensions like 2011 did.

But I'd like your take.

 

[Consigliere]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 7m
Writing about recruiting and the #Canes' front 7. How's this for a stat: UM allowed 240 YPG to SSU, FAU and USF. Vs. other 9 opponents ..Canes allowed 475 YPG, which would rank 110th nationally over a full season. UM was 120th in yards allowed last season (486).

This stat is stupid and misleading. So they remove those 3 games, can we remove them from the other 120 teams as well (same quality teams). After that, you would need to rerank the teams. While the premise is true, the stat is misleading.

I am surprised that the NCAA or some stat company doesn't keep track of BCS only stats.

 

[RiDLer80]

This scheme is for losers and any kid that wants to play in it is a loser

Moten --- Loser!
Wyche --- Loser!
Trent Harris --- Loser!
Terry McCray --- Loser!
Chad Thomas --- Loser!
Bethel --- Loser!
Valentine --- Loser!
Demetrius Jackson --- Loser!
Mayes --- Loser!
Turner --- Loser!
Owens --- Loser!
Michael Smith --- Loser!
Juwon Young --- Loser!
Courtel Jenkins --- Loser!

I highly suggest that you show up at each of their schools and tell them to their face what you think of them.

Valentine may be wising up...

@mattyports: Valentine said #Canes allowing 48 pts to Duke "made it look like they weren’t even trying ... It kind of knocked them down a step.”