Day 3 Spring Practice Discussion (Photo's,Video's, Reports)

[The Franchise]

I said it when we were recruiting him. Coley will be as good as he wants to be. He's one of those unique types of talents who can do whatever he wants out there. Questions on him are all related to his mental approach. If he conquers those mental hurdles and studies hard and practices hard he will leave here an all-world player. If he doesn't get that mental part down, he could leave here like Fred Louse left fsu.

At this level, you can have all the talent in the world, but if the corches don't trust you enough that you'll run the right routes when they put you on the field, then you won't get on the field. Look at a guy like Lockhart last year. That dude is a superstar talent, but he couldn't get the mental part down until the end of the season, and even then, he wasn't prepared to run anything but fades.

 

[JHallCanes]

He needs to get here with the mentality Malcolm Lewis had last year. Lewis could have definitely been our leading receiver last year before he got hurt and Coley is even more talented.

 

[The Franchise]

He needs to get here with the mentality Malcolm Lewis had last year. Lewis could have definitely been our leading receiver last year before he got hurt and Coley is even more talented.

Easier said than done, J. If everyone had Malcolm and Duke's approach, we'd never lose a game. Coley hasn't shown that he's cut from that cloth. Guys can change though, especially when they're young.

 

[Larry]

I don't think Coley breaks the Top 4. Would love it if he did, but I think he'll get relatively limited looks, if at all (and mostly toward the end of the year). It has nothing to do with Coley's ability or future production. I just think he has a giant mountain to climb in terms of alternatives.

Sandland's [vertical] addition may play a big role, too.

Sandland is going to be the perfect player to help out the deep passing game. Teams won't be able to cheat their safeties deep like they did in the latter half of the season because you'll have Sandland running C2 buster routes and putting a ton of pressure on the middle linebacker and safeties on Cover 2s and even Cover 3s when the MLB has to cover the SS Curl. Throwing the SS Curl isn't exactly Morris' forte...but alas...

Larry??? Football Jargon??? Well I'll be damned

You must be new.

 

[DMoney]

I don't think Coley breaks the Top 4. Would love it if he did, but I think he'll get relatively limited looks, if at all (and mostly toward the end of the year). It has nothing to do with Coley's ability or future production. I just think he has a giant mountain to climb in terms of alternatives.

Sandland's [vertical] addition may play a big role, too.

Sandland is going to be the perfect player to help out the deep passing game. Teams won't be able to cheat their safeties deep like they did in the latter half of the season because you'll have Sandland running C2 buster routes and putting a ton of pressure on the middle linebacker and safeties on Cover 2s and even Cover 3s when the MLB has to cover the SS Curl. Throwing the SS Curl isn't exactly Morris' forte...but alas...

My expectations for Sandland appear to be much different than most of the board. I expect Walford, not Sandland, to be the tight end that really threatens the defense. I expect Sandland to complement Walford's ability to get downfield with his physical play and surehandedness, especially on third down.

 

[LuCane]

I don't think Coley breaks the Top 4. Would love it if he did, but I think he'll get relatively limited looks, if at all (and mostly toward the end of the year). It has nothing to do with Coley's ability or future production. I just think he has a giant mountain to climb in terms of alternatives.

Sandland's [vertical] addition may play a big role, too.

Sandland is going to be the perfect player to help out the deep passing game. Teams won't be able to cheat their safeties deep like they did in the latter half of the season because you'll have Sandland running C2 buster routes and putting a ton of pressure on the middle linebacker and safeties on Cover 2s and even Cover 3s when the MLB has to cover the SS Curl. Throwing the SS Curl isn't exactly Morris' forte...but alas...

My expectations for Sandland appear to be much different than most of the board. I expect Walford, not Sandland, to be the tight end that really threatens the defense. I expect Sandland to complement Walford's ability to get downfield with his physical play and surehandedness, especially on third down.

I have to see it first here against this competition and then live, but I've never seen Walford do what Sandland showed in his highlights he's capable of doing. And, I'm a Walford fan who thought Stephen Morris was holding him back somewhat.

 

[Larry]

I don't think Coley breaks the Top 4. Would love it if he did, but I think he'll get relatively limited looks, if at all (and mostly toward the end of the year). It has nothing to do with Coley's ability or future production. I just think he has a giant mountain to climb in terms of alternatives.

Sandland's [vertical] addition may play a big role, too.

Sandland is going to be the perfect player to help out the deep passing game. Teams won't be able to cheat their safeties deep like they did in the latter half of the season because you'll have Sandland running C2 buster routes and putting a ton of pressure on the middle linebacker and safeties on Cover 2s and even Cover 3s when the MLB has to cover the SS Curl. Throwing the SS Curl isn't exactly Morris' forte...but alas...

My expectations for Sandland appear to be much different than most of the board. I expect Walford, not Sandland, to be the tight end that really threatens the defense. I expect Sandland to complement Walford's ability to get downfield with his physical play and surehandedness, especially on third down.

I think Walford will be our leading receiver at TE, but its about skillset. Walford made his best plays on crosses, drags, flats, and outs with secondary routes assisting him in getting open, IMO, or busted coverage (look at the USF game where the out on a flea flicker and the 9 route on his long touchdown came from busted coverage). I can't recall too much coming from Walford coming between the safeties 15 yards downfield.

Sandland is the kind of TE who gets downfield more and can keep the safeties honest on posts make plays between the safeties. Plus, better hands. Walford dropped quite a few passes, specifically (the *******) on the SS curls. I think Sandland is a guy that catches those footballs, even though its not Morris' go-to throw.

 

[JHallCanes]

He needs to get here with the mentality Malcolm Lewis had last year. Lewis could have definitely been our leading receiver last year before he got hurt and Coley is even more talented.

Easier said than done, J. If everyone had Malcolm and Duke's approach, we'd never lose a game. Coley hasn't shown that he's cut from that cloth. Guys can change though, especially when they're young.

You never lie. Some of these character concern guys hit college and grow up in a hurry and some flame out immediately. I'm not sure there's much middle ground with Coley. He's a superstar or bust type. I thought how he handled his announcement and recruitment were positive signs and I think seeing guys like Tracy and Deon lined up across from him will bring out the fire in him.

 

[Cans4life]

I expect Coley to have a Rashad Greene type of freshman season. Around 600 yards with 6-8 TDs. IMO, their games are similar but Coley is a notch better and comes in with a better QB. While WR is the deepest unit on the team, Coley is just another level above the rest of the guys on the roster.

The big ?? is his mental game. He could be a Fred Rouse.

 

[canecountry3]

I don't think Coley breaks the Top 4. Would love it if he did, but I think he'll get relatively limited looks, if at all (and mostly toward the end of the year). It has nothing to do with Coley's ability or future production. I just think he has a giant mountain to climb in terms of alternatives.

Sandland's [vertical] addition may play a big role, too.

Sandland is going to be the perfect player to help out the deep passing game. Teams won't be able to cheat their safeties deep like they did in the latter half of the season because you'll have Sandland running C2 buster routes and putting a ton of pressure on the middle linebacker and safeties on Cover 2s and even Cover 3s when the MLB has to cover the SS Curl. Throwing the SS Curl isn't exactly Morris' forte...but alas...

My expectations for Sandland appear to be much different than most of the board. I expect Walford, not Sandland, to be the tight end that really threatens the defense. I expect Sandland to complement Walford's ability to get downfield with his physical play and surehandedness, especially on third down.

It will be interesting to see... it's all dependent on OC Coley. Walford had a decent season, finished strong... but Fisch obviously was not a big proponent of the TE being a big part of the offense. I'd love to see both guys get 20+ receptions this year, don't know if that will be possible though.. considering the amount of touches the rest of the offense will/should get.

EDIT: I think Sandland is a better route runner than Walford. Sandland is explosive... and some of Walford's big plays came when the pocket broke down and Morris made time. Doesn't matter... there is a legitimate competition for PT at TE for the first time in a long time.

DOUBLE EDIT: Walford and Sandland on the field at the same time = match up nightmare for every single team on Miami's schedule.

 

[The Franchise]

I expect Coley to have a Rashad Greene type of freshman season. Around 600 yards with 6-8 TDs. IMO, their games are similar but Coley is a notch better and comes in with a better QB. While WR is the deepest unit on the team, Coley is just another level above the rest of the guys on the roster.

The big ?? is his mental game. He could be a Fred Rouse.

He's a lot more than a notch better than Rashad Greene. But he might not put up 600 yards this year because there are so many receivers on this team.

 

[motorcitycane]

8-9 TDs though?

 

[PUNCICANE]

I expect Coley to have a Rashad Greene type of freshman season. Around 600 yards with 6-8 TDs. IMO, their games are similar but Coley is a notch better and comes in with a better QB. While WR is the deepest unit on the team, Coley is just another level above the rest of the guys on the roster.

The big ?? is his mental game. He could be a Fred Rouse.

He's a lot more than a notch better than Rashad Greene. But he might not put up 600 yards this year because there are so many receivers on this team.

i see a lot of tempered expectation for Coley, comparisons to Rashad Greene, and talk of our team having lots of depth at WR meaning that he wont get much run. But, I see an AJ Green, Marqise Lee, immediate impact, game changing type talent. As good as Scott, Burns, Lewis and others maybe, none of them have this kids talent.

Coley's the kind of kid you line up on the outside 6-7times a game and say "GOOOO"

 

[The Franchise]

I expect Coley to have a Rashad Greene type of freshman season. Around 600 yards with 6-8 TDs. IMO, their games are similar but Coley is a notch better and comes in with a better QB. While WR is the deepest unit on the team, Coley is just another level above the rest of the guys on the roster.

The big ?? is his mental game. He could be a Fred Rouse.

He's a lot more than a notch better than Rashad Greene. But he might not put up 600 yards this year because there are so many receivers on this team.

i see a lot of tempered expectation for Coley, comparisons to Rashad Greene, and talk of our team having lots of depth at WR meaning that he wont get much run. But, I see an AJ Green, Marqise Lee, immediate impact, game changing type talent. As good as Scott, Burns, Lewis and others maybe, none of them have this kids talent.

Coley's the kind of kid you line up on the outside 6-7times a game and say "GOOOO"

I'm with you on the talent level he possesses. I see him on the same level as the guys you mentioned. I'm not sure he's mentally mature enough to do what he needs to do to get on the field right away. If he does, and he knows his **** cold, then he'll be a very bad dude as a freshmans.

 

[bes628]

Im a big of a Coley fan as anybody, but god ****.

 

[motorcitycane]

I'm a fan of all players in this class.....that said phew! Lee and Green......I hope so I guess time will tell this story. Man I wish Olsen was a ee so I could see how he fares in the spring game...I'm really curious as to who will start at QB come 2014

 

[Cans4life]

I expect Coley to have a Rashad Greene type of freshman season. Around 600 yards with 6-8 TDs. IMO, their games are similar but Coley is a notch better and comes in with a better QB. While WR is the deepest unit on the team, Coley is just another level above the rest of the guys on the roster.

The big ?? is his mental game. He could be a Fred Rouse.

He's a lot more than a notch better than Rashad Greene. But he might not put up 600 yards this year because there are so many receivers on this team.

i see a lot of tempered expectation for Coley, comparisons to Rashad Greene, and talk of our team having lots of depth at WR meaning that he wont get much run. But, I see an AJ Green, Marqise Lee, immediate impact, game changing type talent. As good as Scott, Burns, Lewis and others maybe, none of them have this kids talent.

Coley's the kind of kid you line up on the outside 6-7times a game and say "GOOOO"

I'm with you on the talent level he possesses. I see him on the same level as the guys you mentioned. I'm not sure he's mentally mature enough to do what he needs to do to get on the field right away. If he does, and he knows his **** cold, then he'll be a very bad dude as a freshmans.

OchoCinco.

 

[PUNCICANE]

I expect Coley to have a Rashad Greene type of freshman season. Around 600 yards with 6-8 TDs. IMO, their games are similar but Coley is a notch better and comes in with a better QB. While WR is the deepest unit on the team, Coley is just another level above the rest of the guys on the roster.

The big ?? is his mental game. He could be a Fred Rouse.

He's a lot more than a notch better than Rashad Greene. But he might not put up 600 yards this year because there are so many receivers on this team.

i see a lot of tempered expectation for Coley, comparisons to Rashad Greene, and talk of our team having lots of depth at WR meaning that he wont get much run. But, I see an AJ Green, Marqise Lee, immediate impact, game changing type talent. As good as Scott, Burns, Lewis and others maybe, none of them have this kids talent.

Coley's the kind of kid you line up on the outside 6-7times a game and say "GOOOO"

I'm with you on the talent level he possesses. I see him on the same level as the guys you mentioned. I'm not sure he's mentally mature enough to do what he needs to do to get on the field right away. If he does, and he knows his **** cold, then he'll be a very bad dude as a freshmans.

Agree! Homie checks his pride at the door and it's on like donkey kong!

Let's hope he buys in quick!

 

[The Franchise]

I expect Coley to have a Rashad Greene type of freshman season. Around 600 yards with 6-8 TDs. IMO, their games are similar but Coley is a notch better and comes in with a better QB. While WR is the deepest unit on the team, Coley is just another level above the rest of the guys on the roster.

The big ?? is his mental game. He could be a Fred Rouse.

He's a lot more than a notch better than Rashad Greene. But he might not put up 600 yards this year because there are so many receivers on this team.

i see a lot of tempered expectation for Coley, comparisons to Rashad Greene, and talk of our team having lots of depth at WR meaning that he wont get much run. But, I see an AJ Green, Marqise Lee, immediate impact, game changing type talent. As good as Scott, Burns, Lewis and others maybe, none of them have this kids talent.

Coley's the kind of kid you line up on the outside 6-7times a game and say "GOOOO"

I'm with you on the talent level he possesses. I see him on the same level as the guys you mentioned. I'm not sure he's mentally mature enough to do what he needs to do to get on the field right away. If he does, and he knows his **** cold, then he'll be a very bad dude as a freshmans.

OchoCinco.

I likes that comparison. I think he might be a little faster than ******* Stinko though.

 

[PUNCICANE]

He's a lot more than a notch better than Rashad Greene. But he might not put up 600 yards this year because there are so many receivers on this team.

i see a lot of tempered expectation for Coley, comparisons to Rashad Greene, and talk of our team having lots of depth at WR meaning that he wont get much run. But, I see an AJ Green, Marqise Lee, immediate impact, game changing type talent. As good as Scott, Burns, Lewis and others maybe, none of them have this kids talent.

Coley's the kind of kid you line up on the outside 6-7times a game and say "GOOOO"

I'm with you on the talent level he possesses. I see him on the same level as the guys you mentioned. I'm not sure he's mentally mature enough to do what he needs to do to get on the field right away. If he does, and he knows his **** cold, then he'll be a very bad dude as a freshmans.

OchoCinco.

I likes that comparison. I think he might be a little faster than ******* Stinko though.

Mike Wallace