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Dawson Scheme notes

Southern Oz said:
I don’t understand the thinking that gap scheme doesn’t blend with air raid concepts.
Air raid disciples use power/counter. They use pin and pull, dart, bash and range of other concepts and plays.
Air raid isn’t married to zone scheme only.
And there is no way that Mario wouldn’t have some gap schemes in.

The Hal Mumme air raid of running only inside zone, zone read and maybe one more is gone.
It has evolved.
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ghost2 said:
This. I think folks are still hungover from Lashlee's inside zone - we ran so much of that due to the tempo he ran here. Easy just to line up and go go go, but a lot of wasted downs without a dominant OL.
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I doubt Mario would accept UM not being able to convert on a 3rd & 1.

We've seen the air raid with gap/man blocking scheme. Kent State ran a similar offense this year with Sean Lewis/Andrew Sowder.

If anyone is confused what this offense will look like, I suggest you check out Dawson's time from University of Southern Mississippi (2016-2017), Mario's time as an OC at Oregon (2017), and Mario's offenses at Oregon with Arroyo (2018-2019). These offenses look extremely similar (Spread, Qb in pistol or shotgun, man blocking scheme, read options, RPOs, lots of play action).

I expect us to spread teams out and run it down their throats, until they crowd the box. Dawson doesn't come off as an innovator, to me. I don't think we are going to see anything we haven't seen run at other schools. I do see, and like, logical playcalling, and a play caller that gets the ball to his difference makers.

At UH, Dawson found ways to get Tank Bell, his most exposive WR, the ball. He lined him up all over the field and got him the ball. Dawson will have 2 young WRs (Nathaniel Joseph and Robbie Washington) who have similar builds and speed to Tank Dell, to work with.

I'm looking forward to watching Jacurri's development the most.
 
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Everyone runs inside zone. Everyone runs counter. Every modern run game incorporates zone schemes and gap schemes. Gone are the days of being married to one or the other. You can run buck sweep, counter, belly, and inside zone in the same offense just fine. Urban Crier won a **** natty in 2014 running buck sweep and zone read lol
 
I care less about plays and more about concepts.

And spacing, spacing, spacing.

College ball has wide hash marks. That means lots of space on the field. By not using every inch of that space with your athletes, you're doing yourself a disservice.

That was the main reason why Gattis offense got QB's killed sometimes. Condensed formations allow defenses to dial up blitzes and send multiple defenders without having to declare early/pre-snap. (you can disguise much easier versus condensed formations) Combine THAT with the fact that condensed formations have slow developing routes...well 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Coach Macho said:
I care less about plays and more about concepts.

And spacing, spacing, spacing.

College ball has wide hash marks. That means lots of space on the field. By not using every inch of that space with your athletes, you're doing yourself a disservice.

That was the main reason why Gattis offense got QB's killed sometimes. Condensed formations allow defenses to dial up blitzes and send multiple defenders without having to declare early/pre-snap. (you can disguise much easier versus condensed formations) Combine THAT with the fact that condensed formations have slow developing routes...well 🤷🏻‍♂️
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What do you think about Dawson?
 
CurDawgCane said:
Everyone runs inside zone. Everyone runs counter. Every modern run game incorporates zone schemes and gap schemes. Gone are the days of being married to one or the other. You can run buck sweep, counter, belly, and inside zone in the same offense just fine. Urban Crier won a **** natty in 2014 running buck sweep and zone read lol
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mention of a buck sweep and a belly in one post. I smell Wing T experience.
 
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Coach Macho said:
I care less about plays and more about concepts.

And spacing, spacing, spacing.

College ball has wide hash marks. That means lots of space on the field. By not using every inch of that space with your athletes, you're doing yourself a disservice.

That was the main reason why Gattis offense got QB's killed sometimes. Condensed formations allow defenses to dial up blitzes and send multiple defenders without having to declare early/pre-snap. (you can disguise much easier versus condensed formations) Combine THAT with the fact that condensed formations have slow developing routes...well 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Southern miss did it week 2 and we never had answer for the rest of the season lol. When somebody asked about spacing/condensed formations I think gattis said he brings more guys into the box so we can have more blockers lol
 
LuCane said:
mention of a buck sweep and a belly in one post. I smell Wing T experience.
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Used to run the Kansas City “V” option in optimist football. FB and RB lined up behind the QB and the “V” back lined up between the FB and RB halfway between the guard and tackle to form the “V”. It was lethal. Depending on the play call, I was the RB or VB.
 
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mossmadness said:
Richt playing under center/forcing the run killed us.

Then towards the end he opened it up and just threw the ball and we couldn’t be stopped.

I remember his halftime interview saying how he hated throwing the ball so much towards the end there.

That’s the exact moment I knew Richt was never going to be the guy for us. Dude hated scoring three TDs in 5 minutes and the offense being unstoppable.
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the guy was still running I-formation under center

That team basically went a whole month without scoring 21 offensive points, with a load of offensive talent

But the times they went shotgun spread, well....things changed. That should've been a 2-loss team that season
 
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just by having a better Oline that can create a consistent run game (knock on wood) will result in a better offense, regardless of style and system. The additions of Lee and Cohen have me excited about what that unit may look like, in addition to the freshman coming in
 
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