MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[Felonious Monk]

If none of you are not seeing a direct correlation between these grant funds being cut and AAU status, a invite to the B1G, I don't know what to tell you. This puts us below AAU invite #'s. We will be well below FSU's research money #'s last year that hasn't gotten them a invite yet. Again, this is probably going to completely crush and end the AAU, all together, but until I know that, this is our key besides viewership to a invite. Former B1G commissioner Warren wanted to go up the West coast (completed) for teams and then down the East coast. The Bears hired him before he completed that mission. Now the viewership King commissioner Petitti took over. AAU membership and TV ratings, besides wanting in FL so bad are key. Unless they announce this administration has destroyed the AAU completely, I am overly concerned about our AAU status and a B1G invite.

Step back from the ledge. We take less in federal grants than a lot of the other schools and only a few schools have left the AAU. Nebraska was given the boot because of a lack of quality research, but if ever school is going through the same issues we are, we won't be singled out.

Remember that it's not just the dollar amount that gets membership, if it was, then Brandeis would have been gone long ago. FSU has no medical school and their research might not align with what the AAU expects. Besides, everyone recognizes that FSU sucks donkey balls.

 

[Empirical Cane]

U do realize Uncle Phil donates to Stanford, too, right? He’s an alum there, as well. He’s given close to half a billy to them. That’s his 2nd baby.

His side piece?

 

[Empirical Cane]

Give me some Super League ****.

Oh yeah, that's what Daddy likes.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Finebaum says Clemson and FSU ‘don’t offer very much in anything’ to other power leagues

ESPN analyst and SEC Network centerpiece Paul Finebaum weighed in Monday on the recent ACC settlement with Clemson and Florida State, offering some typical barb

www.tigernet.com

 

[Empirical Cane]

Yeah, probably not gonna turn into Bama, UGA, Me-Cheat-Again or Ohio Taint anytime soon.

But ...

Stanford did finish in the AP Top 12 six times in the 2010-16 seasons

Northwestern made it to the B1G title games in 2018 and '20 and ended up in the Top 25 four times from 2015 to 2020.

Duke is 26-13 the last three seasons with wins over us, Clemson, FSU and Virginia Tech (twice) and more or less cut a QB who threw for 3,000 yards and 26 TDs last fall to bring in a Tulane transfer reportedly getting $8M the next two years.

Vandy beat Alabama and Auburn, took Texas to the wire and won its bowl game in 2024. The $300M on-campus stadium renovation is scheduled to be finished this year. Like Duke, Vandy isn't half-assin' it anymore.

Really the only elite private school in FBS that hasn't made a concerted effort for football success is Rice

Fear The Owl!

 

[CaneinBroward]

Finebaum says Clemson and FSU ‘don’t offer very much in anything’ to other power leagues

ESPN analyst and SEC Network centerpiece Paul Finebaum weighed in Monday on the recent ACC settlement with Clemson and Florida State, offering some typical barb

www.tigernet.com

"And then he said Clemson and FSU don't have anything to add because academically they are subpar to the flagship schools in their states, like academics even are considered at all by the SEC....."

 

[Gennaker Cane]

"And then he said Clemson and FSU don't have anything to add because academically they are subpar to the flagship schools in their states, like academics even are considered at all by the SEC....."

He's not wrong about that. But not seeing how UVA is going to attract the B1G if Cal of Stanford didn't. If it's about academics and brand, there is none bigger than Cal/Stanford. Sorry, UVA, you're still good, just not as elite.

 

[ssvir]

If none of you are not seeing a direct correlation between these grant funds being cut and AAU status, a invite to the B1G, I don't know what to tell you. This puts us below AAU invite #'s. We will be well below FSU's research money #'s last year that hasn't gotten them a invite yet. Again, this is probably going to completely crush and end the AAU, all together, but until I know that, this is our key besides viewership to a invite. Former B1G commissioner Warren wanted to go up the West coast (completed) for teams and then down the East coast. The Bears hired him before he completed that mission. Now the viewership King commissioner Petitti took over. AAU membership and TV ratings, besides wanting in FL so bad are key. Unless they announce this administration has destroyed the AAU completely, I am overly concerned about our AAU status and a B1G invite.

 

[CaneinBroward]

He's not wrong about that. But not seeing how UVA is going to attract the B1G if Cal of Stanford didn't. If it's about academics and brand, there is none bigger than Cal/Stanford. Sorry, UVA, you're still good, just not as elite.

He was talking about UNC and UVA being the first choices by the SEC, not the B1G.

Truth be told, I'm sure the B1G would be more lenient with their academic requirements if enough cash is thrown their way. For Finebaum to even mention it regarding the SEC - even more ludicrous.

 

[FL Cane]

To give you an idea of how quickly conference realignment discussions can change, I was told something interesting by a person plugged into the SEC very recently. There is a Big 12 school that nobody has mentioned at all in conference realignment which the SEC is getting very interested in potentially adding. In their words, there's "momentum" for that potential addition when the opportunity arises.

Without saying too much, it is a school that doesn't make sense from a CFB viewpoint, but absolutely does from another major college sport viewpoint. The SEC doesn't want to just compete in CFB. They're looking for dominance in basketball and baseball too.

 

[FL Cane]

He was talking about UNC and UVA being the first choices by the SEC, not the B1G.

Truth be told, I'm sure the B1G would be more lenient with their academic requirements if enough cash is thrown their way. For Finebaum to even mention it regarding the SEC - even more ludicrous.

I'm a UVA alum, and I can tell you that I do not understand a UVA addition to the SEC or B1G from a football standpoint. UVA is an elite school with an alumni base that rivals the ivies. However, for whatever reason, UVA alums, students, and fans could not give less of a **** about the football program if they tried. They will never spend the money or bend the rules to compete at the highest levels.

If the SEC or B1G added them, they'd be getting very solid/sometimes elite basketball and baseball programs, and a below average football program. UVA football pulls of one 8-10 win season every 7-8 years.

 

[CaneinBroward]

I'm a UVA alum, and I can tell you that I do not understand a UVA addition to the SEC or B1G from a football standpoint. UVA is an elite school with an alumni base that rivals the ivies. However, for whatever reason, UVA alums, students, and fans could not give less of a **** about the football program if they tried. They will never spend the money or bend the rules to compete at the highest levels.

If the SEC or B1G added them, they'd be getting very solid/sometimes elite basketball and baseball programs, and a below average football program. UVA football pulls of one 8-10 win season every 7-8 years.

Finebaum said it in a roundabout way by talking about flagship schools and academics (LOL), but UNC and UVA would be new markets for the SEC. That's all. It's the same reason why the B1G went after Maryland and Rutgers about 10 years ago.

 

[CaneinBroward]

To give you an idea of how quickly conference realignment discussions can change, I was told something interesting by a person plugged into the SEC very recently. There is a Big 12 school that nobody has mentioned at all in conference realignment which the SEC is getting very interested in potentially adding. In their words, there's "momentum" for that potential addition when the opportunity arises.

Without saying too much, it is a school that doesn't make sense from a CFB viewpoint, but absolutely does from another major college sport viewpoint. The SEC doesn't want to just compete in CFB. They're looking for dominance in basketball and baseball too.

My guess would be Kansas. It would be the next state up from Oklahoma and west of Mizzou.

 

[Rickd]

To give you an idea of how quickly conference realignment discussions can change, I was told something interesting by a person plugged into the SEC very recently. There is a Big 12 school that nobody has mentioned at all in conference realignment which the SEC is getting very interested in potentially adding. In their words, there's "momentum" for that potential addition when the opportunity arises.

Without saying too much, it is a school that doesn't make sense from a CFB viewpoint, but absolutely does from another major college sport viewpoint. The SEC doesn't want to just compete in CFB. They're looking for dominance in basketball and baseball too.

There has been mention of the SEC looking at Kansas to add to its BB portfolio. The SEC believes they already have THE TOP football conference and want to become the #1 BB conference as well ... hence interest in UNC and potentially Kansas ... and even Duke.

 

[Empirical Cane]

I'm a UVA alum, and I can tell you that I do not understand a UVA addition to the SEC or B1G from a football standpoint. UVA is an elite school with an alumni base that rivals the ivies. However, for whatever reason, UVA alums, students, and fans could not give less of a **** about the football program if they tried. They will never spend the money or bend the rules to compete at the highest levels.

If the SEC or B1G added them, they'd be getting very solid/sometimes elite basketball and baseball programs, and a below average football program. UVA football pulls of one 8-10 win season every 7-8 years.

Gorgeous campus.

 

[Tony4Canes]

Alright Alright

Glad this keeps going until 2028!!

 

[Hold My Beer]

"And then he said Clemson and FSU don't have anything to add because academically they are subpar to the flagship schools in their states, like academics even are considered at all by the SEC....."

Ignore what Adam Silver's illegitimate and ****-starting brother has to say. Finebum is Skip Bayless without the hairpiece

 

[Hold My Beer]

My guess would be Kansas. It would be the next state up from Oklahoma and west of Mizzou.

LOL yeah ... not sure why there's a need to keep it a secret.

 

[Hold My Beer]

I'm a UVA alum, and I can tell you that I do not understand a UVA addition to the SEC or B1G from a football standpoint. UVA is an elite school with an alumni base that rivals the ivies. However, for whatever reason, UVA alums, students, and fans could not give less of a **** about the football program if they tried. They will never spend the money or bend the rules to compete at the highest levels.

Here's a quote from UNC's chancellor when speaking to UNC's faculty in January (via UNC247):

Lee Roberts, who shed his interim tag in August, highlighted California, UCLA, Michigan, Texas and Virginia as UNC’s peers, each of which are robust academic universities that reside in Power 4 conferences. He noted that UCLA, Michigan and Texas all spend significantly more on football than UNC does, while adding that Cal and Virginia, as fellow ACC members, spend similar amounts (as UNC) and are trying to figure out how to spend more."

Sankey and Petitti have clearly relayed to ACC candidates for the SEC and B1G the ground rules for a promotion: You're not gonna be able to come in here with one foot in and one foot out on football and collect a media rights check as welfare.

Virginia, imo, will do whatever it needs to make a serious commitment to football because being left behind from one of the two power conferences would be crippling to the university itself and unacceptable to those big money donors who decide whether or not top university administrators get to keep their jobs.

No chance UVA stays put while UNC (which just hired Bellichick) and Duke (which just spent a $8M for QB and who knows how much for Cooper Flagg) are clearly going all-in on football/athletics

 

[FL Cane]

Here's a quote from UNC's chancellor when speaking to UNC's faculty in January (via UNC247):

Lee Roberts, who shed his interim tag in August, highlighted California, UCLA, Michigan, Texas and Virginia as UNC’s peers, each of which are robust academic universities that reside in Power 4 conferences. He noted that UCLA, Michigan and Texas all spend significantly more on football than UNC does, while adding that Cal and Virginia, as fellow ACC members, spend similar amounts (as UNC) and are trying to figure out how to spend more."

Sankey and Petitti have clearly relayed to ACC candidates for the SEC and B1G the ground rules for a promotion: You're not gonna be able to come in here with one foot in and one foot out on football and collect a media rights check as welfare.

Virginia, imo, will do whatever it needs to make a serious commitment to football because being left behind from one of the two power conferences would be crippling to the university itself and unacceptable to those big money donors who decide whether or not top university administrators get to keep their jobs.

No chance UVA stays put while UNC (which just hired Bellichick) and Duke (which just spent a $8M for QB and who knows how much for Cooper Flagg) are clearly going all-in on football/athletics

I hope they do. It’s just that I’ve never seen them be serious about football. They have the ingredients to be a very good football school, they’ve just never cared to be.