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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

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Empirical Cane said:
I hear you friend, but their contributions aren't worth $70MM/yr.
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Honestly, this is kind of a circular argument. Play it out and you kick out schools like that. A few years ago by meteorites in theory keep going up even though it’s just the cost of inflation and then new schools are now at the bottom. I don’t hat deserve the same valuation as Ohio State or Michigan which will always almost certainly be the case. So now you kick them out. Eventually, you’re the pac 2 in a different form.

Think about major-league baseball there are the Yankees and the Dodgers and then there’s a massive gap to the next team alone let alone all the way down to the Oakland A’s.

I’m not saying that there isn’t a reasonable argument on the Northwestern and Vanderbilt but not every school can only be valued on the peak valuation for meteorites when you’re trying to form a league by definition not 10 teams are going to be equal
 
Ispyin said:
Honestly, this is kind of a circular argument. Play it out and you kick out schools like that. A few years ago by meteorites in theory keep going up even though it’s just the cost of inflation and then new schools are now at the bottom. I don’t hat deserve the same valuation as Ohio State or Michigan which will always almost certainly be the case. So now you kick them out. Eventually, you’re the pac 2 in a different form.

Think about major-league baseball there are the Yankees and the Dodgers and then there’s a massive gap to the next team alone let alone all the way down to the Oakland A’s.

I’m not saying that there isn’t a reasonable argument on the Northwestern and Vanderbilt but not every school can only be valued on the peak valuation for meteorites when you’re trying to form a league by definition not 10 teams are going to be equal
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I believe that is exactly what I'm saying.

He who holds the gold is going to ask he who wants tbe gold, "why am I giving you these gold pieces and what value do you bring?"
 
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Ispyin said:
jailbreak time may may may also come right after the NCAA settlement this week... all **** could break loose in general next week, but that also includes fall out for G5 and other D2 and basketball only types and their athletic departments
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This is right. That settlement is going to be a game changer.

If the rumors are true, schools are probably going to HAVE TO pay their players. Dennis Dodd wrote about hearing numbers between 15-25 million. That opens the door to other questions like whether they'd be employees. And if they are, would they unionize? What would student athletes in other sports be paid? Would everyone across all sports make the same? The cost could end up being astronomical.

That B1G/SEC money is extremely important.
 
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Badbart43 said:
this is good news, it basically means that the GOR means squat if you leave the conference
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FSU, in their amended complaint, specifically asked the judge to rule on precisely WHAT does the GOR mean, according to the STATEMENT IN THE ESPN MEDIA AGREEMENT. That is also where Clemson's law suit if focused as they have read the ESPN agreement and an early comment was that it specifically stated 'the GOR is in effect while the member institution remains a member of the conference" or words to that effect.
 
Rickd said:
FSU, in their amended complaint, specifically asked the judge to rule on precisely WHAT does the GOR mean, according to the STATEMENT IN THE ESPN MEDIA AGREEMENT. That is also where Clemson's law suit if focused as they have read the ESPN agreement and an early comment was that it specifically stated 'the GOR is in effect while the member institution remains a member of the conference" or words to that effect.
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Well, @NorthernVirginiaCane told me the GOR was IRONCLAD and IRREVOCABLE and that ACC teams wouldn't be going anywhere until the mid-2030s...
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I see six good Big 12 teams there....
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if we don't win this year then record wise, we look to be no more valuable than those teams that are left out because We've sucked for 2 decades.

To me this is why winning and getting to the playoff THIS year is so important because it shows Miami is on the way back up again and they are investing in the program to do so.

Even though our brand is recognizable nationwide they aren't going to get rid of a bunch of bad teams only to add another one who hasn't been relevant for 2 decades.

We NEED TO WIN and win big to show that we are on the way back to being an upper echelon team as we were before.
 
Cajuncane said:
if we don't win this year then record wise, we look to be no more valuable than those teams that are left out because We've sucked for 2 decades.

To me this is why winning and getting to the playoff THIS year is so important because it shows Miami is on the way back up again and they are investing in the program to do so.

Even though our brand is recognizable nationwide they aren't going to get rid of a bunch of bad teams only to add another one who hasn't been relevant for 2 decades.

We NEED TO WIN and win big to show that we are on the way back to being an upper echelon team as we were before.
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Obviously, winning helps.

But this is about more than just being "valuable" by winning a couple more games.

Miami has paid for a top coach. Miami will build a new football HQ building. Miami has one of the top-paying NIL programs. When you have the Minnesotas of the world matching our effort and expenditure, maybe then we can use "wins" as a tiebreaker.

Until then, Miami has plenty of value.
 
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Cajuncane said:
if we don't win this year then record wise, we look to be no more valuable than those teams that are left out because We've sucked for 2 decades.

To me this is why winning and getting to the playoff THIS year is so important because it shows Miami is on the way back up again and they are investing in the program to do so.

Even though our brand is recognizable nationwide they aren't going to get rid of a bunch of bad teams only to add another one who hasn't been relevant for 2 decades.

We NEED TO WIN and win big to show that we are on the way back to being an upper echelon team as we were before.
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Man, conference **** aside, I agree with you anyway. NEED TO WIN
 
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ssvir said:
What points? All I heard was rambling incoherence.
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TheOriginalCane said:
Well, @NorthernVirginiaCane told me the GOR was IRONCLAD and IRREVOCABLE and that ACC teams wouldn't be going anywhere until the mid-2030s...
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It is going to be interesting to read the AMENDED COMPLAINT. The original FSU complaint was 38 pages ... the amended complaint is 139 pages!! It reportedly goes into a lot of detail including Swofford and the negative financial impact TO the conference of inserting Raycom into the 2010 ESPN media deal ... with the only purpose of propping up the failing Raycom.

Haven't been able to read it yet ... just some comments on Warchant from one guy who has. From comments it is well written and potentially deadly for the ACC. It points out clearly that the ESPN media deal existed BEFORE any GOR and cites ESPN media documents that were the binding documents for the ACC and NONE of them required establishing a GOR. It appears that the GOR was a purely fabricated device initiated BY the ACC leadership in an attempt to create a large financial penalty for any school that wanted to leave. The GOR might just have well been written on Charmin!! Paints the ACC leadership as basically orchestrating fraud to keep the conference in tact in order for the leadership to extract exorbitant salaries rather than provide services for the member institutions.
 
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