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Rickd said:
There was a thread discussing Conference Realignment on Canesport ... Gary said "nothing is happening ... nobody has ANY back channel offers". His position is the best thing is for the ACC to 'become stronger and become a legit P3". So ... if Gary is saying nothing is happening it most likely means that there is a lot going on ... just that he is totally unaware of it.
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The whole thing these idiots who want to "strengthen the ACC" miss is that the numbers don't work. They think teams just getting more competitive will solve everything. Miami, Clemson, and FSU could all be top 10 teams for the next 12 years, but the money hole will be so deep compared to what the other conferences are getting. This is all about money, Ferman.
 
CreativeCane said:
The whole thing these idiots who want to "strengthen the ACC" miss is that the numbers don't work. They think teams just getting more competitive will solve everything. Miami, Clemson, and FSU could all be top 10 teams for the next 12 years, but the money hole will be so deep compared to what the other conferences are getting. This is all about money, Ferman.
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Gary wants ESPN to "do the right thing", ie, modify the media agreement, you know, subsidize the conference since the Wake Forest and BC games don't generate national interest.
 
CreativeCane said:
The whole thing these idiots who want to "strengthen the ACC" miss is that the numbers don't work. They think teams just getting more competitive will solve everything. Miami, Clemson, and FSU could all be top 10 teams for the next 12 years, but the money hole will be so deep compared to what the other conferences are getting. This is all about money, Ferman.
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Gary Furman knows as much about conference realignment and where Miami stands on this as my wife knows about not using the credit card
 
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Tony4Canes said:
Sure hope so! Guess he is in Hospice care so he might keep tweeting out stories. One of them might end up sticking.
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Come on dude you’ve been in this thread for a long ******* time. At this point that guy is posted bull**** about something happening next week for three ******* years and has never been right other than through broken clock theory
 
Ispyin said:
Come on dude you’ve been in this thread for a long ******* time. At this point that guy is posted bull**** about something happening next week for three ******* years and has never been right other than through broken clock theory
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Not necessarily the time frame. The schools he thinks leaving.
 
Badbart43 said:
There are really only 2 possible outcomes.

The Fit hits the Shan and its nasty for everyone involved.

or

It quietly gets resolved with some back room deal that keeps all the dirty details behind closed doors.

Which do you think is more likely?
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Money talks, bull**** walks, but I want violence.
 
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Rickd said:
Comments were that one factor that drove the money down is the "5+7" format ... so that is 5 highest ranked conference champions + next 7 highest ranked teams. So you have a B10, SEC, ACC, B12 and Group of Five champion + the 7 at large. The group of 5 champ and even B12 ... provide lower value games and that impacted the bid price. The "industry expectation" was for a $2.0-2.2 Billion per year contract and it ended up at $1.3.
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I just did a quick look over the history of the CFP. In those years, the top 5 conference champions all were within the top 12 at the last CFP poll. So in the 5+7 model, there would be no change in teams participating.

Taking into account the movement of teams into the SEC, Big 10, and Big 12, there was 1 year where all 12 teams would be the same, 1 year where 2 conference champs would have been outside of the top 12 (last year), and the other 8 years there would be 1 team out of the top 12.

So, for having the 12th team miss out for a conference champ, that would equate to a 35% reduction from the expected payout of $2B? It would literally affect one college playoff game out of 11 played each year. Something's rotten in Denmark.
 
CaneinBroward said:
I just did a quick look over the history of the CFP. In those years, the top 5 conference champions all were within the top 12 at the last CFP poll. So in the 5+7 model, there would be no change in teams participating.

Taking into account the movement of teams into the SEC, Big 10, and Big 12, there was 1 year where all 12 teams would be the same, 1 year where 2 conference champs would have been outside of the top 12 (last year), and the other 8 years there would be 1 team out of the top 12.

So, for having the 12th team miss out for a conference champ, that would equate to a 35% reduction from the expected payout of $2B? It would literally affect one college playoff game out of 11 played each year. Something's rotten in Denmark.
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"Rotten"? Just shows that to a very large degree there is some accuracy in "selecting" the top 12 teams. That was the goal .... have the championship SERIES involving more than 4 so you don't end up possibly leaving the best team in the country (ie, like Georgia in the last CFP) out of the series. Top 10-12 teams are fairly predictable and consistent.
 
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Rickd said:
"Rotten"? Just shows that to a very large degree there is some accuracy in "selecting" the top 12 teams. That was the goal .... have the championship SERIES involving more than 4 so you don't end up possibly leaving the best team in the country (ie, like Georgia in the last CFP) out of the series. Top 10-12 teams are fairly predictable and consistent.
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Who said anything about not having 12 teams? You had originally stated you thought the TV contract price was 35% lower than expected because the 5+7 model was being implemented and there would be lower value games bringing down the value of the TV contract.

I was just pointing out the effect on having a 5+7 model after the current conference realignment would be 1 playoff game on average per year. And the effect would be the 12th team who let's face it, wouldn't be the "Georgia" of this or any other season, would be replaced by the 14th or 16th ranked team on average. IMO stating the playoff came in 35% lower than predicted based on 1 game being affected out of 11 total playoff games each year (9%) is a bit of a stretch and also assumes the industry didn't include the effects of the 5+7 model in the first place when estimating the value of the TV contract.
 
Rickd said:
Gary wants ESPN to "do the right thing", ie, modify the media agreement, you know, subsidize the conference since the Wake Forest and BC games don't generate national interest.
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CaneinBroward said:
Who said anything about not having 12 teams? You had originally stated you thought the TV contract price was 35% lower than expected because the 5+7 model was being implemented and there would be lower value games bringing down the value of the TV contract.

I was just pointing out the effect on having a 5+7 model after the current conference realignment would be 1 playoff game on average per year. And the effect would be the 12th team who let's face it, wouldn't be the "Georgia" of this or any other season, would be replaced by the 14th or 16th ranked team on average. IMO stating the playoff came in 35% lower than predicted based on 1 game being affected out of 11 total playoff games each year (9%) is a bit of a stretch and also assumes the industry didn't include the effects of the 5+7 model in the first place when estimating the value of the TV contract.
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Yall some mf nerds, mane 🤓. Lmaoo.. good **** though. Interesting conversation
Taught me a lil sumn sumn
 
Rickd said:
There was a thread discussing Conference Realignment on Canesport ... Gary said "nothing is happening ... nobody has ANY back channel offers". His position is the best thing is for the ACC to 'become stronger and become a legit P3". So ... if Gary is saying nothing is happening it most likely means that there is a lot going on ... just that he is totally unaware of it.
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