MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[TheOriginalCane]

If they renewed his contract in 2020, they did it without any announcement at all.

Yeah, I think they kept it fairly quiet. I believe it started out "month-to-month", but at this point I think we are close enough to 2025 that the BOT thinks we can just keep following precedent and bring someone in by then. There will be a whole bunch of "leading us into the next century" bull**** to swallow when they name the new president...

 

[Hold My Beer]

Oh my lord, how long are people going to pull receipts on what happened a year ago?

From the same thread yesterday ...

I've been right about everything for over 600 pages. Indisputable.

Just messing around TOC ... I talk **** in fun, not out of vengeance

Really enjoy your posts (most of 'em anyway).

You seem to know a lot about a lot of things, UM related. Way more than I do or ever will

 

[Hold My Beer]

I do not deny that. But it's not because UM and Clemson are not working together. I've said it before, I'll repeat it, UM and Clemson have been working together to get OUT of the ACC. However, where we land...may be different spots.

Agree from that angle ... all of the so-called Magnificent 7 are aligned on making a jailbreak

Feel like it's a layup that FSU and Clemson will be the next two fish in Sankey's boat

 

[TheOriginalCane]

From the same thread yesterday ...



Just messing around TOC ... I talk **** in fun, not out of vengeance

Really enjoy your posts (most of 'em anyway).

You seem to know a lot about a lot of things, UM related. Way more than I do or ever will

It's all good, and I'm being (somewhat) sarcastic.

My point is, we WERE working with Clemson, and still are. Just not in lockstep.

There are a lot of posters FAR WORSE who are constantly complaining about how they were "promised" that Miami and Clemson were operating as identical twins or something similar.

I'm just tired of hearing about it. I wish that we could guarantee ending up in the same conference with Clemson. But the SEC ****ed that up.

 

[Hold My Beer]

If FSU goes to the SEC, is the rivalry over? If so, wow. Never thought I would see the day when UM vs FSU is over. That would suck.

Not if, but when the Noles go to the SEC

And then for sure they dropping us like a bad habit.

It might — or might not — take a couple years, but it's gonna end up that way

The best-case scenario would be something like the UM-uf situation where we play every so often in a home-and-home arrangement.

It is what it is

 

[Fluffhead]

Not if, but when the Noles go to the SEC

And then for sure they dropping us like a bad habit.

It might — or might not — take a couple years, but it's gonna end up that way

The best-case scenario would be something like the UM-uf situation where we play every so often in a home-and-home arrangement.

It is what it is

Or if it ultimately winds up in the two conferences, if there is something like the Big10/ACC challenge in basketball. I’d think there would be some appetite for a crossover series or permanent rivalry but who knows, especially if they move to 9-10 conference games.

 

[Hold My Beer]

Or if it ultimately winds up in the two conferences, I’d there js something like the Big10/ACC challenge in basketball. I’d think there would be some appetite for a crossover series or permanent rivalry but who knows, especially if they move to 9-10 conference games.

Yeah, I've thought about it, too.

An SEC-B1G challenge would be insane. Play 20 or 24 (whatever the number of teams end up being) head-to-head match-ups to involve all the teams from both conferences.

Spread it out over the first couple weeks of the season to maximize TV windows.

Fans and media would go ape **** over it.

Can you imagine something like this to start every season:

Canes vs FSU or UF

Michigan vs. Bama

Ohio State vs. UGA

ND vs. Texas

Penn State vs. LSU

Oregon vs Oklahoma

Washington vs. UF or FSU

And so on ...

What network executive or college football fan wouldn't love something like that?

 

[Cane44]

idk, but Rad on Jose Rose this morning was a BIG ACC pumper... 2nd time on radio he's done that.. not sure if that's just his poker face and he's working behind the scenes, but I can't stand the thought of staying content in the ACC, once the Big2 get going full steam....

 

[Hold My Beer]

It now looks like Frenk will ring in UM's Centennial in 2025. After that, I'd be willing to bet that we will have a new president.

What about a new football conference???

That's a helluva lot more important, right?

 

[Hold My Beer]

idk, but Rad on Jose Rose this morning was a BIG ACC pumper... 2nd time on radio he's done that.

That's the B1G way. Keep your head down, mouth shut and don't create a fuss

USC and UCLA were quiet as mice before they left.

U-Dub and Oregon kept saying good things about the Pac-12 right up until the Big Ten office announced they were joining.

I actually think it's good FSU is kicking up dust and Clemson and UNC voted against the expansion. It's not outlandish to suggest it may tip their hands as far as where they're headed when the inevitable ACC poaching begins

Dissension and the appearance of instability is necessary to implode a league with 13 years remaining on its media rights agreement.

Thought this bit from the Raleigh News & Observer was interesting. It was from the article on North Carolina's game in Charlotte against South Carolina:

"The ruffled feathers over Friday’s vote to add California, Stanford and SMU to the ACC played out in two of UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham’s pregame conversations: a short one with ACC commissioner Jim Phillips, and a longer and very cordial one with SEC commissioner Greg Sankey."

 

[Calinative]

It won't be the ACC, per say. This is after it dissolves, falters, breaks apart, ends, or whatever happens.

The bold is the plan. It's a group of the schools that are aware that they're being left out or contingency planning. It's something administrators at Duke have pondered for years apparently. Miami is included in talks as a contingency for themselves.

Miami desperately needs FSU and/or Clemson to pick the SEC or be picked by the SEC. If they both do, we might be out in 2025/2026 and part, maybe even all, will be paid for.

Of course Vanderbilt, Northwestern, etc. won't leave their conferences. But they're not going to be included when ESPN/FOX says they want the top 40 teams, 2 conferences, and the rest aren't being written into their rights and are kicked from the conference. That's where it's headed.

I actually like the idea of a miniI-Ivy that also is really good athletically, but maybe not quite top 50 Football programs.
Obviously we won’t be in that conference, but I think it makes a **** of a lot of sense. There’s like 6+ Big10 and ACC programs in each, 1 SEC, and maybe a couple others that all would fit really well in that type of conference. That’s be like a solid 14 team conference.

 

[Rickd]

If FSU goes to the SEC, is the rivalry over? If so, wow. Never thought I would see the day when UM vs FSU is over. That would suck.

With the huge focus by the networks on VIEWER DRAW ... they will schedule OOC games of interest so I would expect the rivalry games continue regardless. Just like FSU - UF.

 

[caneworld]

Revenue sports like football and basketball should break away from NCAA and form separate 60 team premier divisions.

There is too much money involved in royalties and tv contracts with individual schools and athletes that has to be managed.
NCAA is worthless..

 

[Cane6]

That's the B1G way. Keep your head down, mouth shut and don't create a fuss

USC and UCLA were quiet as mice before they left.

U-Dub and Oregon kept saying good things about the Pac-12 right up until the Big Ten office announced they were joining.

I actually think it's good FSU is kicking up dust and Clemson and UNC voted against the expansion. It's not outlandish to suggest it may tip their hands as far as where they're headed when the inevitable ACC poaching begins

Dissension and the appearance of instability is necessary to implode a league with 13 years remaining on its media rights agreement.

Thought this bit from the Raleigh News & Observer was interesting. It was from the article on North Carolina's game in Charlotte against South Carolina:

"The ruffled feathers over Friday’s vote to add California, Stanford and SMU to the ACC played out in two of UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham’s pregame conversations: a short one with ACC commissioner Jim Phillips, and a longer and very cordial one with SEC commissioner Greg Sankey."

You hit the nail on the head.

FSU has been poorly run for years, and I couldn’t name another P5 school that promoted their lead booster to be AD.

Let them rattle the cages and cause a scene in the zoo while Clemson and Miami jointly craft their escape in the back

Miami has been communicating with bigten long enough to know the preferred exist strategy, and is playing its part

 

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WHOA

 

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[NorthernVirginiaCane]

Sure. Because I'm right. Unlike you.

I'm just waiting for you to tell us about all the caselaw that UPHOLDS multiple different contractual penalties for the same action. Please, oh wise one, tell us about all the jurisdictions that have ALLOWED multiple punitive penalties for choosing to exit an association, when there are already adequate remedies under OTHER documents.

I'll hang up now and listen to your answer.

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day, but you are 0/200 in this thread. On facts, the law and all of your clownish predictions. I admire the consistency. You are the Ken Dorsey of always being wrong.

Interesting tidbit from FSU and their stadium renovations. "As part of the financial report, FSU lists $44.25 million in preliminary conference revenue in 2023. That figure grows to $60.6 million in 2028."

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day, but you are 0/200 in this thread. On facts, the law and all of your clownish predictions. I admire the consistency. You are the Ken Dorsey of always being wrong.

Interesting tidbit from FSU and their stadium renovations. "As part of the financial report, FSU lists $44.25 million in preliminary conference revenue in 2023. That figure grows to $60.6 million in 2028."

Ah, yes, the fraud returns. The guy who claims there is an "ironclad IRREVOCABLE" contract, but can't explain the first thing about how it is enforceable, since the ACC no longer owns our rights.

But, yeah, good job mixing apples and oranges there, genius. We have been having a 600 page discussion on apples (the TV money) and you try to bring up oranges (all the other revenue that the ACC can share, including the ACC Championship game, the ACC basketball tournaments (and baseball/softball tournaments), etc. Merchandise. The CW deal.

Oh, yeah, the ACC is just SWIMMING in money. There is NO REASON to consider jumping to the poverty Big 10 or the broke-*** SEC. Yep, everyone took all your brilliant advice, such as "being smarter about hiring coaches", and now the revenue gap has been narrowed! Hurray! No need to worry, all of our problems have been solved!

What a joke...got any other brilliant ideas that will get us through the cash crunch until 2036?

 

[OldhamA]

It won't be the ACC, per say. This is after it dissolves, falters, breaks apart, ends, or whatever happens.

The bold is the plan. It's a group of the schools that are aware that they're being left out or contingency planning. It's something administrators at Duke have pondered for years apparently. Miami is included in talks as a contingency for themselves.

Miami desperately needs FSU and/or Clemson to pick the SEC or be picked by the SEC. If they both do, we might be out in 2025/2026 and part, maybe even all, will be paid for.

Of course Vanderbilt, Northwestern, etc. won't leave their conferences. But they're not going to be included when ESPN/FOX says they want the top 40 teams, 2 conferences, and the rest aren't being written into their rights and are kicked from the conference. That's where it's headed.

How long is the lease on Hard Rock Stadium? We definitely won't need it if we're left out of the top 40 schools - we'd struggle to fill a high school stadium.