MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[Rickd]

I would like to see Radakovich negotiate an exit from the ACC based on:

1). $120M conference exit fee. Cost of leaving.
2). Negotiate return of GOR (negotiate with ACC / ESPN) for an annual payment from Miami to the ACC of $30M
for 10 years.
3). Miami joins the B10 with full media rights and full share of B10 media distribution. After netting out the $30M annual payment
Miami will initially be making a little more than currently in the ACC, but the margin increases annually.

That way the "out of pocket" exit is limited to $120M and Miami is in the B2 with all of the associated advantages.

 

[Empirical Cane]

CIS putting up "porst-per-second" in this thread.

Love the energy here.

 

[Ispyin]

CIS putting up "porst-per-second" in this thread.

Love the energy here.

Um

 

[Tad Footeball]

Who blinks first in next round of conference madness...

SEC or Big1,345?

I really think this entire thing hinges upon the SEC believing that the B1G is imminent in adding a Florida school or schools. THEN they'll get aggressive. Not sure if waiting until then is wise on their behalf but I don't think the B1G adding any school(s) (UNC included) sans maybe Clemson would light any fire under Craig Hankey's keister.

 

[Rickd]

Who blinks first in next round of conference madness...

SEC or Big1,345?

GOR holds everything together for the 2023 season while programs / conferences / attorneys go at it hard to come up with a REALISTIC exit plan.

 

[2FNFST4U]

And thats just it we haven't won except for 17. So if we go 8-5 this year and no big wins it just continues on the 20 year long trend.

 

[Rickd]

I really think this entire thing hinges upon the SEC believing that the B1G is imminent in adding a Florida school or schools. THEN they'll get aggressive. Not sure if waiting until then is wise on their behalf but I don't think the B1G adding any school(s) (UNC included) sans maybe Clemson would light any fire under Craig Hankey's keister.

Hard to imagine any conference pulling the trigger when they might be adding a team that has no broadcast rights for home games. Can they still pay an ACC school that moves a partial share with the school keeping THAT money while ESPN broadcasts the home games?

 

[IbzRlz]

The Pac-12 schools were always going to choose the Big 12 over the ACC. Even though the ACC could hypothetically offer more money and a shorter grant of rights, the Big-12 is geographically closer which means lower travel costs that more than offset any extra money the ACC can offer. Plus, despite the GOR, the Mid-12 TV deal comes up for renewal sooner, which could theoretically trigger another realignment.

The ASU AD specifically said something about not wanting to send soccer teams to Syracuse in the fall.

That may be true, but that's not the point. The ACC wasn't, and isn't, being proactive when it comes to realignment. This is just another example of the good ole' boy Tobacco Road mentality.

 

[PhenomCane]

That may be true, but that's not the point. The ACC wasn't, and isn't, being proactive when it comes to realignment. This is just another example of the good ole' boy Tobacco Road mentality.

I agree. Challenge is any school that would make sense to add from a revenue standpoint is either already making more money in their conference, staying independent, or has better geographic options.

 

[IbzRlz]

"No reason to expand further"?

You mean capturing a slice of the first or second largest college football TV market isn't a good enough reason to expand further?

If you're implying South Florida is the 1st or 2nd largest college football TV market, you're looking through green- and orange-colored glasses. We rarely ever have home sellouts and the people in SFLA would rather go to the beach, boating, etc than watch college football. Don't confuse recruiting grounds with TV market

 

[DamnLiesAndStatistics]

And thats just it we haven't won except for 17. So if we go 8-5 this year and no big wins it just continues on the 20 year long trend.

If there is no expansion movement prior to the start of the season, the A&M game could be pivotal for us. Would leave us with a solid rank and allow us to stay on national TV for games like Temple, GT, and UVA (will be at worst on ACCN rather than regional TV)

 

[Yoyo82]

If you're implying South Florida is the 1st or 2nd largest college football TV market, you're looking through green- and orange-colored glasses. We rarely ever have home sellouts and the people in SFLA would rather go to the beach, boating, etc than watch college football. Don't confuse recruiting grounds with TV market

No. The state of Florida.

Miami and FSU are the B1Gs best opportunities to get into the state.

 

[Empirical Cane]

What if revenues don't materialize for SEC and Big10 payments?

Kinda has a bubble vibe to it?

 

[90scane]

I am pretty sure Miami has more national titles than the whole BIG 12 combined.

If and when the ACC collapses,

Miami
FSU
Clemson
and Notre Dame (if they want), will be scooped up by one of the BIG or SEC.

Thanks

Poll Era
[BGCOLOR=initial]Michigan - 2[/BGCOLOR]
Michigan St. - 2
Penn St. - 2
Minnesota- 4
Nebraska - 5
[BGCOLOR=initial]Ohio State- 5(6*)[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]20 total[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]USC - 7[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]UCLA - 1[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]Washington -1[/BGCOLOR]
[BGCOLOR=initial]Oregon - 0[/BGCOLOR]
Plus 9

Others:
GT - 1
Cuse- 1


Pretty sure these four are the winners from the ACC:
ND - 8
Miami- 5 (6*)
FSU - 3
Clemson- 3

 

[Tru C]

If you're implying South Florida is the 1st or 2nd largest college football TV market, you're looking through green- and orange-colored glasses. We rarely ever have home sellouts and the people in SFLA would rather go to the beach, boating, etc than watch college football. Don't confuse recruiting grounds with TV market

The Miami tv market is 18th nationally and 2nd or 3rd in the southeast behind Atlanta, GA and Orlando, FL.

FYI, the BIG currently has NO SCHOOLS in the southeast market.

Analyzing the New NCAA Power Five Television Markets

Since the Big Ten’s recent expansion is thought to be fueled by Fox, it’s worth examining how the realigned Power Five now stacks up in terms of TV markets.

swimswam.com

 

[IbzRlz]

I am pretty sure Miami has more national titles than the whole BIG 12 combined.

If and when the ACC collapses,

Miami
FSU
Clemson
and Notre Dame (if they want), will be scooped up by one of the BIG or SEC.

Thanks

Considering Oklahoma is still part of the Big 12, the answer is no. Clemson and FSU could go SEC and the Big 10 may want UVA and NC because of the academics (coupled with the fact we haven't been relevant in football for nearly 20 years). The best bet may be the Big 12

 

[IbzRlz]

The Miami tv market is 18th nationally and 2nd or 3rd in the southeast behind Atlanta, GA and Orlando, FL.

FYI, the BIG currently has NO SCHOOLS in the southeast market.

Analyzing the New NCAA Power Five Television Markets

Since the Big Ten’s recent expansion is thought to be fueled by Fox, it’s worth examining how the realigned Power Five now stacks up in terms of TV markets.

swimswam.com

Again, that is TV market, not college football TV market. People in SFLA have a multitude of things to do besides stay at home and watch college football. Heck, the Big 10 could add GA Tech who fits their academic requirements and opens up the Atlanta market, which is #7, as well. I truly hope we go to the Big 10, but to think we're a slam dunk is misguided IMO

 

[Empirical Cane]

There is hope for 5-7 Miami!

Our Canes are a lock for the Sister Schuberts Dinner Rolls Bowl presented by Cialis





Miami fuccin

 

[5NC4]

 

[wdk3618]

I do not recall this being discussed previously...does anybody know what the financials look like for the ACC? Do they have a lot of cash on hand? Just wondering how feasible a long and expensive legal battle is for the ACC. Hopefully most if not all revenue gets redistributed to the schools and they have an operating budget they cannot stray too much from without much in reserves?