MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

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SEC/B1G will get 4 bids each. ACC/Big 12 will get 2 each.

ACC/big12/G5 would be better off just starting own separate playoff system instead of losing all credibility and self respect by letting the P2 rawdog them like that. CFB used to have co-champions and it wasn’t that unusual (2003 was last time it happened, but it happened quite a few times before that).

Do something different to make it stand out.
 
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ACC/big12/G5 would be better off just starting own separate playoff system instead of losing all credibility and self respect by letting the P2 rawdog them like that. CFB used to have co-champions and it wasn’t that unusual (2003 was last time it happened, but it happened quite a few times before that).

Do something different to make it stand out.
Dumb as ****. Would be second tier from inception

You don’t see all the smaller basketball conferences starting another championship just because the bigger ones get 5-10 additional bids at times
 
Dumb as ****. Would be second tier from inception

You don’t see all the smaller basketball conferences starting another championship just because the bigger ones get 5-10 additional bids at times

You know what is dumb as ****? Putting college basketball on the same level as college football.

First off, none of the bigger conferences are guaranteed extra bids in basketball. 31 conference champs get in, everyone else is at large. SEC has one good team and a bunch of bad teams, while CUSA has a bunch of good teams? CUSA could get more teams in than the SEC. Zero incentive for small schools to start a new playoff as they have an equal shot at getting an invitation to the tournament.

College playoff proposal has 8
GUARANTEED slots for the p2 of out of a total of 12 slots. 6 win sec team could potentially get a playoff spot over a 10 win acc team. By agreeing to that format, the ACC is admitting it is a second rate conference. And once that narrative is permanently written by virtue of giving the P2 2/3 of the playoff spots, good luck trying to convince a major network to give the ACC more money. If you agree to a clown contract, don’t get upset when you get treated like a clown.
 
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You know what is dumb as ****? Putting college basketball on the same level as college football.

First off, none of the bigger conferences are guaranteed extra bids in basketball. 31 conference champs get in, everyone else is at large. SEC has one good team and a bunch of bad teams, while CUSA has a bunch of good teams? CUSA could get more teams in than the SEC. Zero incentive for small schools to start a new playoff as they have an equal shot at getting an invitation to the tournament.

College playoff proposal has 8
GUARANTEED slots for the p2 of out of a total of 12 slots. 6 win sec team could potentially get a playoff spot over a 10 win acc team. By agreeing to that format, the ACC is admitting it is a second rate conference. And once that narrative is permanently written by virtue of giving the P2 2/3 of the playoff spots, good luck trying to convince a major network to give the ACC more money. If you agree to a clown contract, don’t get upset when you get treated like a clown.
Fair points, but the reality is the ACC and Big 12 ARE second rate conferences to the people that matter. They'd be third rate if they tried to split off. Keep in mind the ACC was lucky to get in two last season, and the Big 12 only got one.

It's a crappy situation, but it's the reality. ACC/Big 12 have less than zero leverage.
 
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Fair points, but the reality is the ACC and Big 12 ARE second rate conferences to the people that matter. They'd be third rate if they tried to split off. Keep in mind the ACC was lucky to get in two last season, and the Big 12 only got one.

It's a crappy situation, but it's the reality. ACC/Big 12 have less than zero leverage.
The ACC and Big XII don't have much leverage now. However, they will have absolutely zero within 5 years if they cede every bit of self-respect and agree to vote for a 4-4-2-2-1-1 framework in a 14 team playoff. After 5 years of the non-P2 top brands having twice as difficult a time of making the playoff along with getting a little more than half the playoff payout as the P2, those top brands will jump ship to the P2 so **** quick and the ACC/Big XII will officially be in the Group of 7 at that point. That is of course, if the P2 even wants those brands after 5 years of fewer resources and opportunities.

I say call the B1G and SEC's bluff while they still can. Let's see how well the SEC/B1G Invitational would do in the ratings. I know if the Canes have no chance of playing in it, I'm not watching it and I imagine there are quite a few FSU, Clemson, VT, ACC, and Big XII fans who feel the same way.

It probably wouldn't work, but if they simply take the alternative, they are sealing their fate for sure. Who knows, maybe CBS, NBC, or Fox wants in on the competitor playoff to the B1G/SEC Invitational? Obviously for less money, but a way to steal some ratings from their ESPN competitor.

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It's all probably moot anyway. I'm sure ESPN agreed to keep the ACC TV contract through 2036 in exchange for the ACC to play nice and submit to their fate in the G7.

PS - I don't even know why the B1G and SEC would make 4 guaranteed slots a requirement as they will likely end up with at least that many slots without any guarantees in most years.
 
Is a playoff that only includes SEC and BiG teams a playoff, or just a return to the Bowl system? If I were the SEC/BiG, I'd be super concerned about a Rest-of-P/G5 boycott. Not sure why there isn't at least a look at gaining more leverage through playoff negotiations.
 
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Welcome to the reality of professionalizing College football.... The SEC and Big 10 had the foresight to put themselves in a position of power and now they're pushing weight...
Will they get everything they want???... Maybe not everything but they will continue to leave other conferences in the dust.... More poaching to come....
 
Welcome to the reality of professionalizing College football.... The SEC and Big 10 had the foresight to put themselves in a position of power and now they're pushing weight...
Will they get everything they want???... Maybe not everything but they will continue to leave other conferences in the dust.... More poaching to come....

Seriously ask YOURSELF… what exactly did MIAMI do to get OURSELVES out of this situation?

Save $2 MILLION in legal fees… that was totally WORTH IT to be trapped and LOCKED out of the college playoff.
 
Seriously ask YOURSELF… what exactly did MIAMI do to get OURSELVES out of this situation?

Save $2 MILLION in legal fees… that was totally WORTH IT to be trapped and LOCKED out of the college playoff.
I love a good Miami conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but what kept us out of the playoffs was our embarrassing defense. Conference affiliation had nothing to do with what happened at the end of the season.
 
Miami went to b12 and had discussions behind the scene. Member schools there didn’t want it. Commissioner did and still does. This probably ends up being 32-64 teams who want to play big boy football and the rest goes somewhere like G5. Bums me out but is what it is.

Next few years we just need to play great ball and find a way into the acc cg. Then in 2030 it will be nfl like cfb
 
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Miami went to b12 and had discussions behind the scene. Member schools there didn’t want it. Commissioner did and still does. This probably ends up being 32-64 teams who want to play big boy football and the rest goes somewhere like G5. Bums me out but is what it is.

Next few years we just need to play great ball and find a way into the acc cg. Then in 2030 it will be nfl like cfb
Was this our former president or the new one? Everything I have heard about the new president leads me to believe he wouldn't do something dumb like that and that he is the right guy to lead us through this expansion stuff.
 
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Was this our former president or the new one? Everything I have heard about the new president leads me to believe he wouldn't do something dumb like that and that he is the right guy to lead us through this expansion stuff.
Former, I am close with some of the guys who have been working on advising universities. One prominent ACC school as well as the B12 conference. Yormark (B12 commish) is smart and on the leading edge of the conversation. Ultimately the new acc agreement rewards the best teams. We have to be one of those teams otherwise we fall behind. Ultimately this ends up between 32-64 team power CFB. Think that’s 5 years away
 
Former, I am close with some of the guys who have been working on advising universities. One prominent ACC school as well as the B12 conference. Yormark (B12 commish) is smart and on the leading edge of the conversation. Ultimately the new acc agreement rewards the best teams. We have to be one of those teams otherwise we fall behind. Ultimately this ends up between 32-64 team power CFB. Think that’s 5 years away
So right about the 2031 time frame that's been discussed because of the current contracts.
 
You know what is dumb as ****? Putting college basketball on the same level as college football.

First off, none of the bigger conferences are guaranteed extra bids in basketball. 31 conference champs get in, everyone else is at large. SEC has one good team and a bunch of bad teams, while CUSA has a bunch of good teams? CUSA could get more teams in than the SEC. Zero incentive for small schools to start a new playoff as they have an equal shot at getting an invitation to the tournament.

College playoff proposal has 8
GUARANTEED slots for the p2 of out of a total of 12 slots. 6 win sec team could potentially get a playoff spot over a 10 win acc team. By agreeing to that format, the ACC is admitting it is a second rate conference. And once that narrative is permanently written by virtue of giving the P2 2/3 of the playoff spots, good luck trying to convince a major network to give the ACC more money. If you agree to a clown contract, don’t get upset when you get treated like a clown.
He isn't known as a deep thinking porster.

Actually I'm implying cognitive thought at all.

I'm being too kind.
 
ACC/big12/G5 would be better off just starting own separate playoff system instead of losing all credibility and self respect by letting the P2 rawdog them like that. CFB used to have co-champions and it wasn’t that unusual (2003 was last time it happened, but it happened quite a few times before that).

Do something different to make it stand out.
Worked for AFL.
 
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