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College Football's Legs Race (Part 1)

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Amazing analysis @Lance Roffers! I've always been fascinated with statistics. Look forward to the other parts.
g8rh8rMD said:
Also, body control. How do you measure an athlete's ability to get up in the air, and twist and contort their body while staying focused on the ball and getting their hands into position?

I would bet that eyesight is also very important for pass catchers. The faster and more accurately an individual can perceive the position of the ball and its velocity and trajectory, the longer their body has to respond.
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Any number of variables could be considered. Hand size, peripheral vision, IQ, just a few off the top of my head. It would be mind boggling to include any others in evaluations if they were available. It's amazing how far the testing has evolved over the last 20 years or so.
 
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Lance Roffers said:
I took my own time, learned how to do a ridge regression, researched the data, parsed the data, wrote the article, had @DMoney read and edit the article, then posted it.

Yes. I am absolutely a lunatic nerd.
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So Lance, do you think Butch just did all this stuff naturally in his head?
 
Lance this is incredible stuff. This needs to be sent over to the UM staff and or you need to be offered a job
 
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Lance that was an incredible write up.

I started looking at OT and noticed a lot of the OT that are in the draft came out of High school at 6’5 to 6’6 and weighing 240 to 265. The tackles from Wisconsin were 3 stars weighing 240; so was Andre Dillard from Washington State. Even WVU got Yodney Cajuste from Miramar and he was about 260 as a senior.

Maybe it’s better to look for athleticism and develop these guys to be ready as a RS sophomore to compete.
 
sstcane said:
Lance that was an incredible write up.

I started looking at OT and noticed a lot of the OT that are in the draft came out of High school at 6’5 to 6’6 and weighing 240 to 265. The tackles from Wisconsin were 3 stars weighing 240; so was Andre Dillard from Washington State. Even WVU got Yodney Cajuste from Miramar and he was about 260 as a senior.

Maybe it’s better to look for athleticism and develop these guys to be ready as a RS sophomore to compete.
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Outside of the elite kids who are ready-made 315-pound dancing bears, yes, this seems to be the way to go over the sloppy kids who can't move. It's why I never had a problem taking Zion and ElGammal. It's the archetype I'd be looking for if I didn't need an OT immediately. Grad transfer is the route I'd be taking if I did.

Juco OL seems to have a really low success rate.
 
This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for! The 3 part series are fantastic in their own right but if we can continually apply this data to future prospects and recruits as part of their profile that would be next level.

Lance and this site just keeps delivering!

Lance Roffers said:
The hope is that as I add to the model we can use it to determine the number of metrics the recruit satisfies etc. to include in a sort of profile.

That's just sort of my thoughts though, since I just work here, that decision is above my pay grade.
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Interesting regarding Ohio State’s athleticism. I noticed that Kerry Coombs would recruit a bunch of 3 star CBs who’d turn into 1st round picks. When you dig deeper though you’d see that even though they were 3 stars they tested through the roof in HS and all eventually ran 4.3, 4.4 at the combine.
 
Only just finished reading the part about OLineman. It definitely makes me feel not so bad about missing on Neal.
 
DMoney said:
The stat that blew my mind is that 100% of All-Conference QBs ran below a 4.47 shuttle. Foot quickness is paramount.

I went back and looked at Malik Rosier since he came in as a dual-threat QB. Sure enough, he ran a 4.56 shuttle.

Jarren and Tate met the threshold.
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But Rosier’s strongest skill was running the ball.
 
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sfcane2 said:
Interesting regarding Ohio State’s athleticism. I noticed that Kerry Coombs would recruit a bunch of 3 star CBs who’d turn into 1st round picks. When you dig deeper though you’d see that even though they were 3 stars they tested through the roof in HS and all eventually ran 4.3, 4.4 at the combine.
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A lot of them played WR, too.
 
CANE1775 said:
Not surprising regarding Ohio State. I remember reading an article while Meyer was at fl and he stated that if a kid was athletic, he'd take him and figure out a position later.
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Also, remember an article a couple of years ago about multi sport athletes. Urban Meyer has always been very vocal about how he looks for these kind of kids. He has been a big supporter of kids playing multiple sports for many reasons.
 
DMoney said:
@Lance Roffers what does an “average” All-Conference player look like?

Not sure if that is statistically meaningful but that might be interesting.
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I'll answer the question, but please understand I did not run the regression on this topic to see what was significant. These are simply averages of the All-Conference players. When you are dealing with a limited sample size, if you do not do cross-validation you can have significant impacts on the data from a few data points.

QB- 199 pounds, 4.86 40, 4.36 SH, 35' Powerball, 30" Vertical, 84 SPARQ, 1.74 Standard Deviations (SD's)

RB- 203 pounds, 4.57 40, 4.27 SH, 37' Powerball, 36" Vertical, 110 SPARQ, 2.87 SD's

WR- 183 pounds, 4.64 40, 4.34 SH, 34' Powerball, 32" Vertical, 91 SPARQ, -0.02 SD's

TE- 223 pounds, 4.85 40, 4.46 SH, 37' Powerball, 31" Vertical, 90 SPARQ, 0.26 SD's

OT- 287 pounds, 5.35 40, 4.82 SH, 37' Powerball, 26" Vertical, 81 SPARQ, 1.78 SD's

OG- 288 pounds, 5.38 40, 4.85 SH, 37' Powerball, 26" Vertical, 75 SPARQ, 0.63 SD's

OC- 289 pounds, 5.38 40, 4.80 SH, 37' Powerball, 24" Vertical, 78 SPARQ, 1.33 SD's

DE- 235 pounds, 4.98 40, 4.58 SH, 38' Powerball, 33" Vertical, 94 SPARQ, 2.04 SD's

DT- 279 pounds, 5.15 40, 4.72 SH, 38' Powerball, 28" Vertical, 88 SPARQ, 1.47 SD's

LB- 216 pounds, 4.77 40, 4.40 SH, 36' Powerball, 32" Vertical, 93 SPARQ, 0.95 SD's

CB- 178 pounds, 4.60 40, 4.28 SH, 34' Powerball, 34" Vertical, 92 SPARQ, 0.76 SD's

S- 187 pounds, 4.64 40, 4.26 SH, 36' Powerball, 35" Vertical, 102 SPARQ, 1.14 SD's

@DMoney
 
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As expected- and mirrors what the NFL data shows for that league- WR is the only position to come out negative on the average athleticism.

Seems counter-intuitive but the data shows this repeatedly.
 
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