Coley being on staff this will hopefully pay dividends this

[Coach Macho]

They are probably FOFs (Fluffers of Fisch).

Guilty as charged.

I'll take Fisch over Coley all day.

Our passing game is terrible and shows no imagination. We're getting by on simply being faster than everybody but that's not gonna be the case against everybody we play.

Do we exploit the middle of the field?
Do we utilize a flood concept?
Smash concept?
Slants?
Digs?

We march down the field using the running game only to throw 3 straight passes inside the 20.
2nd & 4 and we call a double reverse.
2nd & 4 and we play-action to the right despite having leverage in the running game on the left. (Morris gets sacked)
Play-action on 3rd & 12 in our own red zone.

Our whole passing game is verticals and hitches. We don't put any defenders in a bind. We don't "high-low" Linebackers or Corners. Our route combinations are extremely easy to cover. That bomb to Dorsett was double-covered, UNC's DB's just played it poorly. The spacing between Waters and Dorsett was also terrible on that play. The ONE TIME I saw us "high-low" a CB was the ball that Waters caught on the game-winning drive. We ran an out-route with #2, forcing the CB to step up in the flats and Morris threw the ball to Waters in the hole of Cover-2.

The slower, less athletic defenders are in the middle of the field and we never go there. We don't get our slots matched up on Linebackers. We don't utilize the TE. We don't hit our speed guys in the middle of the field.


I don't know why this guy gets a pass. Maybe cause we're scoring a bunch of points but we haven't played anybody that can run with us defensively. The whole success of this offense relies on Duke's long runs and bombs from the WR. At some point you have to be able to nickel and dime.

Gets a pass?.... Miami had 550 yards of offense against UNC w/ the 4 interceptions.

and we do nickel and dime in the passing game also, thats what those WR screens are, or the short plays to the TE, or the 10 yard out plays from the WRs.

The middle of the field point is being overblown, that isnt a Coley issue, that is an issue w/ where the QB is comfortable throwing the ball.

The offense isnt perfect but this offense is WAY more productive then under Fisch last year. Clive Walford didnt get any catches hardly until the last couple games of the season last year.

Fisch was about the big play passes as well, except he didnt call a balanced offensive game plan.... there were times going w/ the run game was the best option but it didnt happen. Like the KSU game, Mike James was having success but we went away w/ it, started passing then got blown out.

I don't care how many yards we had against a 1-4 team. I think about what this offense will look like against a good defense. I watch the offensive plays unfold and I often see a lack of creativity. Slants, digs, stick routes. WHERE ARE THEY? Flood and smash concepts. WHERE ARE THEY? How many times are we gonna run the WR stack formation?

How do you know if the issue is about Morris being comfortable? You know this? You spoke to Coley about why he doesn't throw to the middle of the field?

And how about the other garbage *** play-calls I mentioned?

The play calls are only garbage when they dont work.... it's called execution. other teams are field a defense so not every play is going to work on every possession.

All these concepts you are talking about, you act like every offense is running all these creative concepts except for Miami. How many other teams got their receivers learning an entire route tree?.... it doesnt exist even in spread offenses.

Certain teams run certain things they like to do a lot and other teams do other things.... if it's working right now i dont see the big deal. Some time it's just better to take a sack or throw the ball out of bounds and live for the next down.

I'm a Stephen Morris supporter and i dont think he is incapable of making plays in the middle of the field b/c he's done it just not very often at all, and i dont understand why that even matters if the offense can move effectively regardless.

Oh, and I never think "play calls only garbage when it doesn't work". I don't look at football that way. I look at the "would've" and "should've". A double reverse on 2nd & 4, when you're gashing the defense via the downhill running game, is a terrible (corny actually) whether it works or not. Play-action on 3rd & 12 is a ****** call whether it works or not, makes zero sense.

I bet you thought the bomb to Dorsett was an awesome play. Meanwhile I'm looking at that play and SMH cause the ball was thrown into double coverage and the route spacing was terrible.

 

[zone3cane]

Oh, and I never think "play calls only garbage when it doesn't work". I don't look at football that way. I look at the "would've" and "should've". A double reverse on 2nd & 4, when you're gashing the defense via the downhill running game, is a terrible (corny actually) whether it works or not. Play-action on 3rd & 12 is a ****** call whether it works or not, makes zero sense.

I bet you thought the bomb to Dorsett was an awesome play. Meanwhile I'm looking at that play and SMH cause the ball was thrown into double coverage and the route spacing was terrible.

I agree that that double reverse was the worse **** of all time, i hate seeing that play period under any circumstances. If you dont break for a 50 yard run, then the play was pointless to begin with.

Every OC has moments where they over do it and think they can "fool" a defense w/ some bs call.... just a terrible play period.

Play actions on 3rd and long are WAOT as well.... Fisch was good for doing that.

The bomb was a great play by Dorsett not so great of a play by Morris..... he just trust his arm too much. I'm sure there were smarter decisions that couldve been made on that play but the play itself wasnt a bad play just the decision making by Morris.

As far as the route spacing goes, I dont know about all that, maybe Herb Waters didnt sell out on his route crisp enough, whatever it was i'm sure the play isnt designed for 2 receivers to be running basically right next to each other the entire route.

 

[AUcane]

Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.

It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.

It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.

Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.

Everybody can watch film and determine that regardless, you can see who is suspect on the O-line and in the defense from the film.

Like it's obvious that Telvin Smith is the ONLY starting lb on that team that makes plays.... but i guess you are right in the sense that James Coley has been on the inside w/ those guys so he would have more details about their weaknesses.

Naturally, film work shows a lot. What I'm talking is more nuanced like "player X gets lazy when he's playing halves", "player Y doesn't like it if you hit him in the mouth - he shies away from contact", "player A is weak against the bull rush", etc. Stuff like that that is not completely apparent on film.

 

[OBLIVION]

Coley better find a hypnotist that can make SteMo believe he is Winston.