Coley being on staff this will hopefully pay dividends this

FSU's weakness on defense is trying to slow down an offense w/ a good running game.....

I'm not sure Coley is going to know some insight on FSU's defense b/c they are running a new scheme.... but he does call a balanced offense during games.

Thats the only thing that will keep the game close....

Clemson has no real run threat so, after a BYE week, it was easy to prepare to shut down their 1 offensive weapon, Sammy Watkins and scheme against Tahj Boyd. They dont have a run game to keep FSU's defense on its heels.

James Coley will have to lean on the run game like he's been doing and unleash Dallas Crawford and Duke Johnson. Keep calling a balanced offense and that will open up plays in the passing game, simple as that.

Oh and in the redzone, Miami needs TDs.
 
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Dumbo knows Coley's tendencies as an OC better than anyone not named Coley, so I'd give them that edge if there is any at all.

After seeing DC pound the rock like a workhorse, our best bet will be for JC to call a game unlike any he has called before and just pound pound pound. I'm talking 40-45 rb touches between the two. I want to be in the stands and get a Big 8 flashback bc we are pounding it so much. We've been praising the line for conditioning, well this will be their greatest test.

If we can do that and average 3-4 a clip, SM will have about 20 pass attempts including a couple big opportunities down field. I think this is out recipe for a successful offensive showing.
 
Jon Gruden disagrees with you. :-) a player not as much because the game is so compartmentalized for a player. However, a coach is a different story.

The whole "ex-player/coach will help because they know the opponent from the inside" is one of the most overrated concepts in sports.
 
Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.
 
Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.

It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.
 
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Dumbo knows Coley's tendencies as an OC better than anyone not named Coley, so I'd give them that edge if there is any at all.

After seeing DC pound the rock like a workhorse, our best bet will be for JC to call a game unlike any he has called before and just pound pound pound. I'm talking 40-45 rb touches between the two. I want to be in the stands and get a Big 8 flashback bc we are pounding it so much. We've been praising the line for conditioning, well this will be their greatest test.

If we can do that and average 3-4 a clip, SM will have about 20 pass attempts including a couple big opportunities down field. I think this is out recipe for a successful offensive showing.

You're making it sound a little too dramatic.... James Coley calls a very balanced offense. He just needs to lean on the run game on 1st and 2nd downs..

Also if Miami is inside the 20, we need to score TDs, and running the ball w/ Dallas inside the redzone is the best bet.
 
Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.

It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.

It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.
 
Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.

It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.

It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.

Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.
 
FSU's weakness on defense is trying to slow down an offense w/ a good running game.....

I'm not sure Coley is going to know some insight on FSU's defense b/c they are running a new scheme.... but he does call a balanced offense during games.

Thats the only thing that will keep the game close....

Clemson has no real run threat so, after a BYE week, it was easy to prepare to shut down their 1 offensive weapon, Sammy Watkins and scheme against Tahj Boyd. They dont have a run game to keep FSU's defense on its heels.

James Coley will have to lean on the run game like he's been doing and unleash Dallas Crawford and Duke Johnson. Keep calling a balanced offense and that will open up plays in the passing game, simple as that.

Oh and in the redzone, Miami needs TDs.

Excellent points on the run game. We will need to stick with it and hope to god that Duke doesn't get dinged up again. If Duke can stay healthy the whole game and not tire out quickly we will need to keep pounding it at them.

This is where we will be able to tell whether or not UM is more into the game from an intensity standpoint than fsu. If fsu has been drinking too much of their own bathwater for the next 2 weeks, then UM should be able to win in the run game because that's all about toughness and intensity.

There used to be a pretty good stat on running the ball in this series, but I forget it. It was something like we win a LOT of the games in this series if we run for more than 150 yards.
 
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Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.

It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.

It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.

Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.

I'm surprised dudes are underestimating the significance of Coley being there for so long and knowing that team inside out the way he does.
 
Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.

It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.

It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.

Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.

I'm surprised dudes are underestimating the significance of Coley being there for so long and knowing that team inside out the way he does.

They are probably FOFs (Fluffers of Fisch).
 
FSU's weakness on defense is trying to slow down an offense w/ a good running game.....

I'm not sure Coley is going to know some insight on FSU's defense b/c they are running a new scheme.... but he does call a balanced offense during games.

Thats the only thing that will keep the game close....

Clemson has no real run threat so, after a BYE week, it was easy to prepare to shut down their 1 offensive weapon, Sammy Watkins and scheme against Tahj Boyd. They dont have a run game to keep FSU's defense on its heels.

James Coley will have to lean on the run game like he's been doing and unleash Dallas Crawford and Duke Johnson. Keep calling a balanced offense and that will open up plays in the passing game, simple as that.

Oh and in the redzone, Miami needs TDs.

Excellent points on the run game. We will need to stick with it and hope to god that Duke doesn't get dinged up again. If Duke can stay healthy the whole game and not tire out quickly we will need to keep pounding it at them.

This is where we will be able to tell whether or not UM is more into the game from an intensity standpoint than fsu. If fsu has been drinking too much of their own bathwater for the next 2 weeks, then UM should be able to win in the run game because that's all about toughness and intensity.

There used to be a pretty good stat on running the ball in this series, but I forget it. It was something like we win a LOT of the games in this series if we run for more than 150 yards.

I believe the team that rushes over 150 has won the almost all match ups in the past couple of decades. We have the horses. #45rushattempts
 
It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.

It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.

Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.

I'm surprised dudes are underestimating the significance of Coley being there for so long and knowing that team inside out the way he does.

They are probably FOFs (Fluffers of Fisch).

Guilty as charged.

I'll take Fisch over Coley all day.

Our passing game is terrible and shows no imagination. We're getting by on simply being faster than everybody but that's not gonna be the case against everybody we play.

Do we exploit the middle of the field?
Do we utilize a flood concept?
Smash concept?
Slants?
Digs?

We march down the field using the running game only to throw 3 straight passes inside the 20.
2nd & 4 and we call a double reverse.
2nd & 4 and we play-action to the right despite having leverage in the running game on the left. (Morris gets sacked)
Play-action on 3rd & 12 in our own red zone.

Our whole passing game is verticals and hitches. We don't put any defenders in a bind. We don't "high-low" Linebackers or Corners. Our route combinations are extremely easy to cover. That bomb to Dorsett was double-covered, UNC's DB's just played it poorly. The spacing between Waters and Dorsett was also terrible on that play. The ONE TIME I saw us "high-low" a CB was the ball that Waters caught on the game-winning drive. We ran an out-route with #2, forcing the CB to step up in the flats and Morris threw the ball to Waters in the hole of Cover-2.

The slower, less athletic defenders are in the middle of the field and we never go there. We don't get our slots matched up on Linebackers. We don't utilize the TE. We don't hit our speed guys in the middle of the field.


I don't know why this guy gets a pass. Maybe cause we're scoring a bunch of points but we haven't played anybody that can run with us defensively. The whole success of this offense relies on Duke's long runs and bombs from the WR. At some point you have to be able to nickel and dime.
 
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Hopefully Coley has some ideas of how he can exploit their defense seeing as he saw them in practice for a few years now.

It's a completely different defensive scheme.....

FSU's defense aint lock tight either just execute a balanced offense.

It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.

Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.

Everybody can watch film and determine that regardless, you can see who is suspect on the O-line and in the defense from the film.

Like it's obvious that Telvin Smith is the ONLY starting lb on that team that makes plays.... but i guess you are right in the sense that James Coley has been on the inside w/ those guys so he would have more details about their weaknesses.
 
It's a different scheme, but you can be sure that Coley knows a lot about the players within that scheme and what their strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think it's a stretch at all to think that having Coley should be a big help. He also know Jambutt inside out and was there last year all year with Jemima and might know if he has any weaknesses that haven't been exploited yet.

Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.

I'm surprised dudes are underestimating the significance of Coley being there for so long and knowing that team inside out the way he does.

They are probably FOFs (Fluffers of Fisch).

Guilty as charged.

I'll take Fisch over Coley all day.

Our passing game is terrible and shows no imagination. We're getting by on simply being faster than everybody but that's not gonna be the case against everybody we play.

Do we exploit the middle of the field?
Do we utilize a flood concept?
Smash concept?
Slants?
Digs?

We march down the field using the running game only to throw 3 straight passes inside the 20.
2nd & 4 and we call a double reverse.
2nd & 4 and we play-action to the right despite having leverage in the running game on the left. (Morris gets sacked)
Play-action on 3rd & 12 in our own red zone.

Our whole passing game is verticals and hitches. We don't put any defenders in a bind. We don't "high-low" Linebackers or Corners. Our route combinations are extremely easy to cover. That bomb to Dorsett was double-covered, UNC's DB's just played it poorly. The spacing between Waters and Dorsett was also terrible on that play. The ONE TIME I saw us "high-low" a CB was the ball that Waters caught on the game-winning drive. We ran an out-route with #2, forcing the CB to step up in the flats and Morris threw the ball to Waters in the hole of Cover-2.

The slower, less athletic defenders are in the middle of the field and we never go there. We don't get our slots matched up on Linebackers. We don't utilize the TE. We don't hit our speed guys in the middle of the field.


I don't know why this guy gets a pass. Maybe cause we're scoring a bunch of points but we haven't played anybody that can run with us defensively. The whole success of this offense relies on Duke's long runs and bombs from the WR. At some point you have to be able to nickel and dime.

Gets a pass?.... Miami had 550 yards of offense against UNC w/ the 4 interceptions.

and we do nickel and dime in the passing game also, thats what those WR screens are, or the short plays to the TE, or the 10 yard out plays from the WRs.

The middle of the field point is being overblown, that isnt a Coley issue, that is an issue w/ where the QB is comfortable throwing the ball.

The offense isnt perfect but this offense is WAY more productive then under Fisch last year. Clive Walford didnt get any catches hardly until the last couple games of the season last year.

Fisch was about the big play passes as well, except he didnt call a balanced offensive game plan.... there were times going w/ the run game was the best option but it didnt happen. Like the KSU game, Mike James was having success but we went away w/ it, started passing then got blown out.
 
Once again this game will go as Morris goes. FSU's DL has great talent but they arent the pass rush demons they were last year, I expect us to be able to protect him just fine, he just needs to make the right reads. We need to use our TEs and even the backs in the passing game. He doesnt need to have a 400 yd passing night, but he needs to check down and let our guys do what they can. If we get their LBs caught in coverage(its a weakness for them), we will also be able to run the ball. We just cant have Morris throwing up jump balls against this type of defense.

Now Im not disagreeing with what everyone is saying bout the running game, its on point. We need to keep #5 off the field, hopefully make a couple stops when they are on offense, and try to frustrate them, and force Winston into some throws.
 
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I think that it would be huge to have Henderson back. He shut Werner down last year and he can give the O-line the continuity and nastiness it needs. I want to see Linder back inside, hopefully helping the center neutralize Jernigan.
 
Exactly. Coley may not be able to identify the playbook completely, but he sure as heck can tell Golden who the weak players on defense/offense are.

I'm surprised dudes are underestimating the significance of Coley being there for so long and knowing that team inside out the way he does.

They are probably FOFs (Fluffers of Fisch).

Guilty as charged.

I'll take Fisch over Coley all day.

Our passing game is terrible and shows no imagination. We're getting by on simply being faster than everybody but that's not gonna be the case against everybody we play.

Do we exploit the middle of the field?
Do we utilize a flood concept?
Smash concept?
Slants?
Digs?

We march down the field using the running game only to throw 3 straight passes inside the 20.
2nd & 4 and we call a double reverse.
2nd & 4 and we play-action to the right despite having leverage in the running game on the left. (Morris gets sacked)
Play-action on 3rd & 12 in our own red zone.

Our whole passing game is verticals and hitches. We don't put any defenders in a bind. We don't "high-low" Linebackers or Corners. Our route combinations are extremely easy to cover. That bomb to Dorsett was double-covered, UNC's DB's just played it poorly. The spacing between Waters and Dorsett was also terrible on that play. The ONE TIME I saw us "high-low" a CB was the ball that Waters caught on the game-winning drive. We ran an out-route with #2, forcing the CB to step up in the flats and Morris threw the ball to Waters in the hole of Cover-2.

The slower, less athletic defenders are in the middle of the field and we never go there. We don't get our slots matched up on Linebackers. We don't utilize the TE. We don't hit our speed guys in the middle of the field.


I don't know why this guy gets a pass. Maybe cause we're scoring a bunch of points but we haven't played anybody that can run with us defensively. The whole success of this offense relies on Duke's long runs and bombs from the WR. At some point you have to be able to nickel and dime.

Gets a pass?.... Miami had 550 yards of offense against UNC w/ the 4 interceptions.

and we do nickel and dime in the passing game also, thats what those WR screens are, or the short plays to the TE, or the 10 yard out plays from the WRs.

The middle of the field point is being overblown, that isnt a Coley issue, that is an issue w/ where the QB is comfortable throwing the ball.

The offense isnt perfect but this offense is WAY more productive then under Fisch last year. Clive Walford didnt get any catches hardly until the last couple games of the season last year.

Fisch was about the big play passes as well, except he didnt call a balanced offensive game plan.... there were times going w/ the run game was the best option but it didnt happen. Like the KSU game, Mike James was having success but we went away w/ it, started passing then got blown out.

I don't care how many yards we had against a 1-4 team. I think about what this offense will look like against a good defense. I watch the offensive plays unfold and I often see a lack of creativity. Slants, digs, stick routes. WHERE ARE THEY? Flood and smash concepts. WHERE ARE THEY? How many times are we gonna run the WR stack formation?

How do you know if the issue is about Morris being comfortable? You know this? You spoke to Coley about why he doesn't throw to the middle of the field?

And how about the other garbage *** play-calls I mentioned?
 
I'm surprised dudes are underestimating the significance of Coley being there for so long and knowing that team inside out the way he does.

They are probably FOFs (Fluffers of Fisch).

Guilty as charged.

I'll take Fisch over Coley all day.

Our passing game is terrible and shows no imagination. We're getting by on simply being faster than everybody but that's not gonna be the case against everybody we play.

Do we exploit the middle of the field?
Do we utilize a flood concept?
Smash concept?
Slants?
Digs?

We march down the field using the running game only to throw 3 straight passes inside the 20.
2nd & 4 and we call a double reverse.
2nd & 4 and we play-action to the right despite having leverage in the running game on the left. (Morris gets sacked)
Play-action on 3rd & 12 in our own red zone.

Our whole passing game is verticals and hitches. We don't put any defenders in a bind. We don't "high-low" Linebackers or Corners. Our route combinations are extremely easy to cover. That bomb to Dorsett was double-covered, UNC's DB's just played it poorly. The spacing between Waters and Dorsett was also terrible on that play. The ONE TIME I saw us "high-low" a CB was the ball that Waters caught on the game-winning drive. We ran an out-route with #2, forcing the CB to step up in the flats and Morris threw the ball to Waters in the hole of Cover-2.

The slower, less athletic defenders are in the middle of the field and we never go there. We don't get our slots matched up on Linebackers. We don't utilize the TE. We don't hit our speed guys in the middle of the field.


I don't know why this guy gets a pass. Maybe cause we're scoring a bunch of points but we haven't played anybody that can run with us defensively. The whole success of this offense relies on Duke's long runs and bombs from the WR. At some point you have to be able to nickel and dime.

Gets a pass?.... Miami had 550 yards of offense against UNC w/ the 4 interceptions.

and we do nickel and dime in the passing game also, thats what those WR screens are, or the short plays to the TE, or the 10 yard out plays from the WRs.

The middle of the field point is being overblown, that isnt a Coley issue, that is an issue w/ where the QB is comfortable throwing the ball.

The offense isnt perfect but this offense is WAY more productive then under Fisch last year. Clive Walford didnt get any catches hardly until the last couple games of the season last year.

Fisch was about the big play passes as well, except he didnt call a balanced offensive game plan.... there were times going w/ the run game was the best option but it didnt happen. Like the KSU game, Mike James was having success but we went away w/ it, started passing then got blown out.

I don't care how many yards we had against a 1-4 team. I think about what this offense will look like against a good defense. I watch the offensive plays unfold and I often see a lack of creativity. Slants, digs, stick routes. WHERE ARE THEY? Flood and smash concepts. WHERE ARE THEY? How many times are we gonna run the WR stack formation?

How do you know if the issue is about Morris being comfortable? You know this? You spoke to Coley about why he doesn't throw to the middle of the field?

And how about the other garbage *** play-calls I mentioned?

The play calls are only garbage when they dont work.... it's called execution. other teams are field a defense so not every play is going to work on every possession.

All these concepts you are talking about, you act like every offense is running all these creative concepts except for Miami. How many other teams got their receivers learning an entire route tree?.... it doesnt exist even in spread offenses.

Certain teams run certain things they like to do a lot and other teams do other things.... if it's working right now i dont see the big deal. Some time it's just better to take a sack or throw the ball out of bounds and live for the next down.

I'm a Stephen Morris supporter and i dont think he is incapable of making plays in the middle of the field b/c he's done it just not very often at all, and i dont understand why that even matters if the offense can move effectively regardless.
 
They are probably FOFs (Fluffers of Fisch).

Guilty as charged.

I'll take Fisch over Coley all day.

Our passing game is terrible and shows no imagination. We're getting by on simply being faster than everybody but that's not gonna be the case against everybody we play.

Do we exploit the middle of the field?
Do we utilize a flood concept?
Smash concept?
Slants?
Digs?

We march down the field using the running game only to throw 3 straight passes inside the 20.
2nd & 4 and we call a double reverse.
2nd & 4 and we play-action to the right despite having leverage in the running game on the left. (Morris gets sacked)
Play-action on 3rd & 12 in our own red zone.

Our whole passing game is verticals and hitches. We don't put any defenders in a bind. We don't "high-low" Linebackers or Corners. Our route combinations are extremely easy to cover. That bomb to Dorsett was double-covered, UNC's DB's just played it poorly. The spacing between Waters and Dorsett was also terrible on that play. The ONE TIME I saw us "high-low" a CB was the ball that Waters caught on the game-winning drive. We ran an out-route with #2, forcing the CB to step up in the flats and Morris threw the ball to Waters in the hole of Cover-2.

The slower, less athletic defenders are in the middle of the field and we never go there. We don't get our slots matched up on Linebackers. We don't utilize the TE. We don't hit our speed guys in the middle of the field.


I don't know why this guy gets a pass. Maybe cause we're scoring a bunch of points but we haven't played anybody that can run with us defensively. The whole success of this offense relies on Duke's long runs and bombs from the WR. At some point you have to be able to nickel and dime.

Gets a pass?.... Miami had 550 yards of offense against UNC w/ the 4 interceptions.

and we do nickel and dime in the passing game also, thats what those WR screens are, or the short plays to the TE, or the 10 yard out plays from the WRs.

The middle of the field point is being overblown, that isnt a Coley issue, that is an issue w/ where the QB is comfortable throwing the ball.

The offense isnt perfect but this offense is WAY more productive then under Fisch last year. Clive Walford didnt get any catches hardly until the last couple games of the season last year.

Fisch was about the big play passes as well, except he didnt call a balanced offensive game plan.... there were times going w/ the run game was the best option but it didnt happen. Like the KSU game, Mike James was having success but we went away w/ it, started passing then got blown out.

I don't care how many yards we had against a 1-4 team. I think about what this offense will look like against a good defense. I watch the offensive plays unfold and I often see a lack of creativity. Slants, digs, stick routes. WHERE ARE THEY? Flood and smash concepts. WHERE ARE THEY? How many times are we gonna run the WR stack formation?

How do you know if the issue is about Morris being comfortable? You know this? You spoke to Coley about why he doesn't throw to the middle of the field?

And how about the other garbage *** play-calls I mentioned?

The play calls are only garbage when they dont work.... it's called execution. other teams are field a defense so not every play is going to work on every possession.

All these concepts you are talking about, you act like every offense is running all these creative concepts except for Miami. How many other teams got their receivers learning an entire route tree?.... it doesnt exist even in spread offenses.

Certain teams run certain things they like to do a lot and other teams do other things.... if it's working right now i dont see the big deal. Some time it's just better to take a sack or throw the ball out of bounds and live for the next down.

I'm a Stephen Morris supporter and i dont think he is incapable of making plays in the middle of the field b/c he's done it just not very often at all, and i dont understand why that even matters if the offense can move effectively regardless.

It matters (to me) cause I'm visualizing what this offense would look like against a good defense.

We run these concepts on the high school level. Matter of fact, Cardinal Gibbons OC is better than Coley. LOL

Again, I'll ask. Slants, digs, smash, flood, sticks...WHERE ARE THEY?

You really don't think it's important that we utilize the middle of the field just cause our outside/vertical game has worked against slapdick defenses?

You gonna sit here and deny that this offense is living off the success of the deep ball and Duke's long runs?
 
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