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Coley and the offense

The 1st half was excellent. They gave Morris all the high percentage throws, and it was paying off. Then we decided that we didn't want to win the game any longer, and then came all the over top bs that has stunned this offense from being effective.

Prior to the int in the 2nd qtr. We were 4 of 5 on 3rd downs, and Morris was like 14 of 17. SteMo has looked like a mental midget for so long. Yet today he looked like the guy that got all the praise coming into the season.

For whatever reason. The play calling went bipolar in the 2nd half, and imo that is all on Coley.
 
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I refuse to believe that Morris just chose not to throw into the middle of the field anymore in the 2nd half. He obviously has no problem throwing there IF THE PLAY IS DESIGNED FOR IT.
 
WildcatDefense said:
I just don't understand. How do you completely scrap plays that are working?

I saw us do some great stuff in the 1st half, only to never be seen again.
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Idk i felt Coley did the opposite.

In the second half he became predictable because he kept calling plays that were working for us. For example, that screen Waters took for a TD i think he called like 50 times today.
 
WildcatDefense said:
I refuse to believe that Morris just chose not to throw into the middle of the field anymore in the 2nd half. He obviously has no problem throwing there IS THE PLAY IS DESIGNED FOR IT.
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Who said he "chose not to throw into the middle of the field?" It just didn't happen based on how the game went. They were far more successful getting pressure and wigging Morris out in the 2nd half. He doesn't make many, if any, secondary reads. Sorry, I refuse to believe that Coley just chose to avoid the middle of the field in the 2nd half. Especially, after certain things worked there before.

Are you saying Coley purposely tried to stay away from the middle of the field? I guess we'll just disagree on this one. I think it's more likely that our QB doesn't make secondary reads into the middle of the field as opposed to our OC just deciding on avoiding it.
 
We put up 30 points and 550 yards, so it's hard to rag on Coley, but he still left a lot to be desired today. Seeing that they couldn't come close to stopping Dallas or any of the RBs, we should have pounded them like we did UNC and Wake in the 4th quarters, but we went 4 and 5 wide more than we ever have this season, and not just when it was 38 or 45-30. We did it at 31-30 and 28-27 and throughout the game. Running more would have also milked the clock and kept our sorry excuse for a defense off the field. That said, it's still hard to get really upset with 30 points and 550 yards missing Duke, Dorsett and Coley.
 
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I'm not upset about the yardage and points, just thought it was odd that the 2nd half looked nothing like the 1st half.
 
do you think coley or dorito had a vote on 4th and one? any of those fourth downs? that should tell you something...in fact coley might want out or at least have a heart to heart with golden after today...real talk
 
WildcatDefense said:
I'm not upset about the yardage and points, just thought it was odd that the 2nd half looked nothing like the 1st half.
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I know, and I reread your post after I posted but was too lazy to edit my post. You're right, it was a bad decision for Coley to go away from what was working in the first half.
 
IMO first half looked more like last year's offense, second half looked more like the rest of this year. First time in ACC play this year that I felt like Coley had reviewed last year's game to game plan. What worked last year, what didn't? How similar is their defense to last year? What play designs, schemes that worked last year can still be exploited this year? I think as the game got closer and the pressure increased on the offense, Coley reverted more and more back to the way he's generally called games this year and less to the original (effective) game plan. The old boxing adage, everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face. Still, probably the first game this year that I saw the light come on for Coley.
 
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I watched the Boston College v NC State game earlier today. Boston College played such tough-nosed football on the offensive line. They keep coming at you. They want to win the game by coming right at you. I feel our team for the last few years has been trying to win games by basically running around the opposition with our athletes. Get the big play. Hit the home run. Not by being a more physical hard nosed football team.
What I have seen is that our offense (strength of our team) during the course of a game has a tendency to get out of rhythm (4 of our last 5 drives were 5 plays or less), and we put faith in our weak defense to win their part of the game. Poor game day coaching strategy IMO
 
Im with Wildcat Defense here. I made note that we threw over the middle of the field in the first half then went away from it in the second half.


Also, I will say that I liked the flea flicker (double reverse pass) that we ran today, although I thought the timing was strange (on a random 2nd and short in the first quarter).
 
I thought it was awful, considering what we were protecting -- an inept defense. We needed 40+ rushes in this game and from base power sets.

I wanted to scream every time we were in empty sets in the first half. Those plays accomplish nothing, regardless of the outcome of the play. You are volunteering as the weaker more vulnerable team and it's destined to implode.

If empty sets were eliminated from our game plan, I'd like to wager we win the game. I realize that looks outlandish but the frailty of that set is always drastically understated, along with the vast gap between how a terrific quarterback fares in an empty set compared to a run of the mill quarterback.

Duke's defense is lousy. Everything looked better only because the opponent was terrible on that side of the ball. Our athletes always make Duke's defense look sadly outmanned. We scored 49 and 52 the past two seasons against them so I'm not exactly impressed with a misleading 30 boosted by a punt return.
 
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Awsi Dooger said:
I thought it was awful, considering what we were protecting -- an inept defense. We needed 40+ rushes in this game and from base power sets.

I wanted to scream every time we were in empty sets in the first half. Those plays accomplish nothing, regardless of the outcome of the play. You are volunteering as the weaker more vulnerable team and it's destined to implode.

If empty sets were eliminated from our game plan, I'd like to wager we win the game. I realize that looks outlandish but the frailty of that set is always drastically understated, along with the vast gap between how a terrific quarterback fares in an empty set compared to a run of the mill quarterback.

Duke's defense is lousy. Everything looked better only because the opponent was terrible on that side of the ball. Our athletes always make Duke's defense look sadly outmanned. We scored 49 and 52 the past two seasons against them so I'm not exactly impressed with a misleading 30 boosted by a punt return.
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This is really the point. Duke's defense was really outmatched today and, for the most part, we let them off the hook. The reason it won't and I guess shouldn't get more emphasis is because the other side of the ball was shockingly bad.
 
LuCane said:
Awsi Dooger said:
I thought it was awful, considering what we were protecting -- an inept defense. We needed 40+ rushes in this game and from base power sets.

I wanted to scream every time we were in empty sets in the first half. Those plays accomplish nothing, regardless of the outcome of the play. You are volunteering as the weaker more vulnerable team and it's destined to implode.

If empty sets were eliminated from our game plan, I'd like to wager we win the game. I realize that looks outlandish but the frailty of that set is always drastically understated, along with the vast gap between how a terrific quarterback fares in an empty set compared to a run of the mill quarterback.

Duke's defense is lousy. Everything looked better only because the opponent was terrible on that side of the ball. Our athletes always make Duke's defense look sadly outmanned. We scored 49 and 52 the past two seasons against them so I'm not exactly impressed with a misleading 30 boosted by a punt return.
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This is really the point. Duke's defense was really outmatched today and, for the most part, we let them off the hook. The reason it won't and I guess shouldn't get more emphasis is because the other side of the ball was shockingly bad.
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Schizophrenic Morris....his reads got worse as the game went on. He was checking down successfully in the first half, I think in the second half he tried to force a few more throws, and of course they got a bit of pressure at times which makes Morris practically useless.
 
BigCaneAl said:
LuCane said:
Awsi Dooger said:
I thought it was awful, considering what we were protecting -- an inept defense. We needed 40+ rushes in this game and from base power sets.

I wanted to scream every time we were in empty sets in the first half. Those plays accomplish nothing, regardless of the outcome of the play. You are volunteering as the weaker more vulnerable team and it's destined to implode.

If empty sets were eliminated from our game plan, I'd like to wager we win the game. I realize that looks outlandish but the frailty of that set is always drastically understated, along with the vast gap between how a terrific quarterback fares in an empty set compared to a run of the mill quarterback.

Duke's defense is lousy. Everything looked better only because the opponent was terrible on that side of the ball. Our athletes always make Duke's defense look sadly outmanned. We scored 49 and 52 the past two seasons against them so I'm not exactly impressed with a misleading 30 boosted by a punt return.
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This is really the point. Duke's defense was really outmatched today and, for the most part, we let them off the hook. The reason it won't and I guess shouldn't get more emphasis is because the other side of the ball was shockingly bad.
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Schizophrenic Morris....his reads got worse as the game went on. He was checking down successfully in the first half, I think in the second half he tried to force a few more throws, and of course they got a bit of pressure at times which makes Morris practically useless.
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All goes back to my original point. When the chips are down and you need him to do something with anything resembling pressure, Morris can't come through 9 times out of 10. He's just not good enough.
 
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WildcatDefense said:
I'm sitting here watching the 1st half and saying to myself "Man Coley is actually calling a nice game. Where have all these plays/routes been all year?"

The dude was using the middle of the field, the flats, the running game, new formations, etc etc etc.

Then in the 2nd half we went right back to the old offense. Verticals and hitch routes on the outside. Didn't expose the middle at all. It was like a tale of 2 different OC's.

Anybody else notice that?
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100% agree they looked good for awhile until Duke adjusted and we had no counter for that.
 
So with all the moanin' and groanin' on here about the offense..You guys are saying we should have won this game say....51-45? Or **** how about 58-52?..Why stop there? 65-59! How many points is enough for you guys?? WE COULDNT STOP DUKE!!! IT WOULDNT HAVE PHUCKIN' MATTERED!!!! Coleys' offense could have put up 100 and Duke would have won 112-100! And I really think some posters on this board would STILL be complaining!
 
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