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Coach Macho

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I'm sitting here watching the 1st half and saying to myself "Man Coley is actually calling a nice game. Where have all these plays/routes been all year?"

The dude was using the middle of the field, the flats, the running game, new formations, etc etc etc.

Then in the 2nd half we went right back to the old offense. Verticals and hitch routes on the outside. Didn't expose the middle at all. It was like a tale of 2 different OC's.

Anybody else notice that?
 
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WildcatDefense said:
I'm sitting here watching the 1st half and saying to myself "Man Coley is actually calling a nice game. Where have all these plays/routes been all year?"

The dude was using the middle of the field, the flats, the running game, new formations, etc etc etc.

Then in the 2nd half we went right back to the old offense. Verticals and hitch routes on the outside. Didn't expose the middle at all. It was like a tale of 2 different OC's.

Anybody else notice that?
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agreed. ill give coley a pass this season bc its his first year calling plays, he can recruit really well, and he's got snickers as his qb.
 
Every game our first 15 or so plays do really well then we decide to start getting hammered. Not sure if small playbook, defense adjusting, or if offense quits caring when defense can't stop anybody.
 
Gru said:
Every game our first 15 or so plays do really well then we decide to start getting hammered. Not sure if small playbook, defense adjusting, or if offense quits caring when defense can't stop anybody.
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Same can be said about our defense the last two games. I believe we've held both Duke and VT to three and outs to start the game.
 
WildcatDefense said:
I'm sitting here watching the 1st half and saying to myself "Man Coley is actually calling a nice game. Where have all these plays/routes been all year?"

The dude was using the middle of the field, the flats, the running game, new formations, etc etc etc.

Then in the 2nd half we went right back to the old offense. Verticals and hitch routes on the outside. Didn't expose the middle at all. It was like a tale of 2 different OC's.

Anybody else notice that?
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Absolutely.
 
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Still trying to process analysts saying Duke was more physical than us on both sides of the ball but yeah our play calling on offense has been bad for most of the year - not patrick nix bad, but bad nevertheless.
 
I just don't understand. How do you completely scrap plays that are working?

I saw us do some great stuff in the 1st half, only to never be seen again.
 
Was critical of Coley all week. He swallowed his pride, put his ego aside and made changes. He called a darn good game and actually moved the ball with consistency. First time in a while where I didn't hold my breath on every offensive play. Wish I could say the same about defense........
 
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WildcatDefense said:
I'm sitting here watching the 1st half and saying to myself "Man Coley is actually calling a nice game. Where have all these plays/routes been all year?"

The dude was using the middle of the field, the flats, the running game, new formations, etc etc etc.

Then in the 2nd half we went right back to the old offense. Verticals and hitch routes on the outside. Didn't expose the middle at all. It was like a tale of 2 different OC's.

Anybody else notice that?
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I charted a lot of the plays. I'm starting to wonder if it's Coley or if it's Stephen. There's some hope for Coley. I saw him use stuff against Duke that we had shown previously against other opponents. That shows strategy and anticipation. That Waters TD in the corner of the end zone was a hesitation move based off of a previous route we had shown. He also finally decided to use Hagens as if he read my desperate pleas, so I appreciated that. When Morris checked down from the verticals, we looked better.
 
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GonzoCane said:
WildcatDefense said:
I'm sitting here watching the 1st half and saying to myself "Man Coley is actually calling a nice game. Where have all these plays/routes been all year?"

The dude was using the middle of the field, the flats, the running game, new formations, etc etc etc.

Then in the 2nd half we went right back to the old offense. Verticals and hitch routes on the outside. Didn't expose the middle at all. It was like a tale of 2 different OC's.

Anybody else notice that?
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Absolutely.
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I thought the same thing.
 
Personally I like the upside of Coley. Coaches are like players, takes them some time to adjust to a new role and if im not mistaken this is his first time calling plays. He seems like a rock solid dude the kids love and theres times where he seems totally dialed in so I'd like to see him with his own QB (Olsen, sort of) before I make a definitive decision about how i feel. I will say we have 20 problems bigger than him if he is a problem.

I'd really like us to explore a more mobile QB. People say were pro set, but now at least half the teams have mobile QB's. Even a guy like Rodgers has enough wheels on him. Thats the missing link IMO that would make us really tough to gameplan for and I know for a fact Coley prefers a mobile guy. I think Olsen is a solid athlete so that might be our dude.
 
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DeadPoets said:
First couple series are scripted & Duke made adjustments. Nothing more, nothing less imo.
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Of course they're scripted but why did we not use any of those plays ever again?

Duke didn't adjust. We didn't even attempt the same plays in the 2nd.
 
It's the quarterback, straight up. Why should Coley call plays that have 4 options if Morris predetermines his read and goes with it, no matter what?

The stat padding is purely a side effect of Miami having Miami-caliber athletes at WR. Coley, Hurns, Waters are all high-impact players, and they beat man coverage with ease. Morris makes a handful of NFL throws a game, but whenever the pocket isn't perfect, or his first read is covered, everything breaks down. He's a ******' MUSH.
 
DCF in LA said:
It's the quarterback, straight up. Why should Coley call plays that have 4 options if Morris predetermines his read and goes with it, no matter what?

The stat padding is purely a side effect of Miami having Miami-caliber athletes at WR. Coley, Hurns, Waters are all high-impact players, and they beat man coverage with ease. Morris makes a handful of NFL throws a game, but whenever the pocket isn't perfect, or his first read is covered, everything breaks down. He's a ******' MUSH.
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He's a mental midget, no doubt, but he was given different throws in the 1st half.

All this BS about Coley being scared to call passes over the middle cause of Morris, or Morris is scared to throw over the middle, is pure hogwash. The 1st half is proof of that. We threw over the middle a bunch.
 
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Coley didn't revert back to "old offense", Morris is the one that reverted back to being the **** QB that he is. Same plays were run, middle of the field was still open. Just a case of a little adversity and Morris going right back to making only the throws he's comfortable making. That's the way I see it anyways. And that's the way it's been all year. Abandoning the middle of the field is a Morris problem, not a Coley problem, and that will be proven next year with a smarter QB.
 
WildcatDefense said:
DCF in LA said:
It's the quarterback, straight up. Why should Coley call plays that have 4 options if Morris predetermines his read and goes with it, no matter what?

The stat padding is purely a side effect of Miami having Miami-caliber athletes at WR. Coley, Hurns, Waters are all high-impact players, and they beat man coverage with ease. Morris makes a handful of NFL throws a game, but whenever the pocket isn't perfect, or his first read is covered, everything breaks down. He's a ******' MUSH.
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He's a mental midget, no doubt, but he was given different throws in the 1st half.

All this BS about Coley being scared to call passes over the middle cause of Morris, or Morris is scared to throw over the middle, is pure hogwash. The 1st half is proof of that. We threw over the middle a bunch.
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I don't know if it's hogwash at all. Some of those throws in the first half were designed specifically to go there to a primary receiver. Some of the throws that are typically there are secondary throws. Morris is not making secondary throws over the middle on the regular. I have a bunch of the plays charted with comments, so you'd have to show me which ones you're talking about so I can look.
 
Felt we could of ran more, lean on the running game. Especially when we had the lead early. There were some drives where we would get a first down then go spread to throw the ball. Felt we could of pounded duke to submission but at one point we were close 2 to 1 passing.
 
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