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CIS reacts to Jai Lucas being Miami's new head coach

cookies said:
I’ve given like fifteen examples over the last three days. Sorry i can’t duplicate the exact path and collegiate comparison that J. Lucas took. Quinn Snyder, Tommy Lloyd, Hubert Davis, Jon Scheyer. . . Syracuse, VIllanova, and others went the assistant route. I could never be clamoring to hire a dude whose tenure at New Mexico resembles Fran Fraschilla’s.

Tom Izzo missed the glory days of Magic but Michigan State still felt it was best to promote an assistant after their legendary coach called it quits.

You’re right: Gonzaga in 99 is different than Gonzaga in ‘25. Let’s go back to ‘99. After making an elite eight, their head coach left to go to Minnesota. This head coach was hired after a decade of being a Gonzaga assistant. Gonzaga promoted from within again with Few. Before Dan Fitzgerald, Gonzaga hired a coach after he was an assistant. Before him, they hired a Gonzaga assistant.

Before him, they hired a coach from Santa Clara who was an Assistant. Before him………..they hired a coach after being a Gonzaga assistant lmao. The last non assistant hire was in 1951 and it was a high school coach.

Despite not building a powerhouse yet, they were still had prestige because John Stockton played there. They won their conference four out of the previous six seasons before promoting Few.

Who cares if it’s ten years at the same place or ten years elsewhere — the point is about finding the right guy. Jai Lucas, just like Mark Few, has ten years of being a collegiate assistant coach before a promotion. I think it’s better that he has a variety of knowledge about a how a program is run — UF, UT (Barnes + Smart), UK, Duke.

Additionally, he has the benefit of being the son of a coaching/player development legend so he has been around different NBA organizations watching his father and his brother. Not like those connections could pay dividends in the future 🙄

If you’ve been talking about a succession plan for years, having one communicated and known to the public may have led to Miami moving on from Coach L early & the ‘canes not making the Elite 8 & Final Four in back to back years. So ……weird flex but okay.
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You're so desperate to show off your Google skills that you keep regurgitating TERRIBLE examples. Facts.

"Who cares if it's ten years at the same place or ten years elsewhere"? Surely, you can't be this stupid. Please, tell me you are not so clueless as to ask such a dumb question with such an obvious answer.

I do think it's funny that you are calling John Lucas a coaching "legend". In what fairy tale book? He is a career .400 coach who lasted 2 years at San Antonio, 2 years at Philly (fired), and 2 years at Cleveland (fired). In his "two good years" at San Antonio, he lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs and the first round of the playoffs.

"Legend".

Good lord, the insane fan fiction that you read on CIS...
 

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TheOriginalCane said:
You're so desperate to show off your Google skills that you keep regurgitating TERRIBLE examples. Facts.

"Who cares if it's ten years at the same place or ten years elsewhere"? Surely, you can't be this stupid. Please, tell me you are not so clueless as to ask such a dumb question with such an obvious answer.

I do think it's funny that you are calling John Lucas a coaching "legend". In what fairy tale book? He is a career .400 coach who lasted 2 years at San Antonio, 2 years at Philly (fired), and 2 years at Cleveland (fired). In his "two good years" at San Antonio, he lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs and the first round of the playoffs.

"Legend".

Good lord, the insane fan fiction that you read on CIS...
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Keep hating on a young black man who earned the privilege of becoming the coach of the university you support. You’ll change your tune soon
 
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cookies said:
Keep hating on a young black man who earned the privilege of becoming the coach of the university you support. You’ll change your tune soon
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Hating on a young black man? Who has certainly not earned the privilege of becoming the head coach at Miami?

**** off with that nonsense.
 
cookies said:
Keep hating on a young black man who earned the privilege of becoming the coach of the university you support. You’ll change your tune soon
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Reaching for the race card. Stop it, just stop it. As a Black man, I find people that try to dismiss legitimate, rational criticism with that as disingenuous. In this case, it doesn't matter what background Jai was, he doesn’t have the experience, period. I would feel that way even if we didn’t share an ethnic heritage. Then again, you likely ignored how most of us on this board felt about Caputo, who actually has some experience. I want my alma mater to hire the best people possible, people with the best chance at success. There are plenty of solid Black coaches that Miami could have reached out to, that are proven. If Miami would have hired Shaka Smart, or even Anthony Grant, most of us would have been fine with it. It’s the hiring a relatively inexperienced “recruiter” that has only recruited at places where it’s almost impossible to fail, that has most of us annoyed. It’s obvious that Rad took the lazy, cheap way out because he doesn’t give a **** about basketball.
 
Canedude08 said:
Reaching for the race card. Stop it, just stop it. As a Black man, I find people that try to dismiss legitimate, rational criticism with that as disingenuous. In this case, it doesn't matter what background Jai was, he doesn’t have the experience, period. I would feel that way even if we didn’t share an ethnic heritage. Then again, you likely ignored how most of us on this board felt about Caputo, who actually has some experience. I want my alma mater to hire the best people possible, people with the best chance at success. There are plenty of solid Black coaches that Miami could have reached out to, that are proven. If Miami would have hired Shaka Smart, or even Anthony Grant, most of us would have been fine with it. It’s the hiring a relatively inexperienced “recruiter” that has only recruited at places where it’s almost impossible to fail, that has most of us annoyed. It’s obvious that Rad took the lazy, cheap way out because he doesn’t give a **** about basketball.
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Wouldn’t have loved Anthony Grant because I want to see somebody who substantially elevates their program during their tenure… I would have preferred Tony Skinn personally.

But yeah… making the concerns about Jai a race issue is a bad look.

Jai is a mid major hire, plain and simple.
 
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AmherstCane said:
Wouldn’t have loved Anthony Grant because I want to see somebody who substantially elevates their program during their tenure… I would have preferred Tony Skinn personally.

But yeah… making the concerns about Jai a race issue is a bad look.

Jai is a mid major hire, plain and simple.
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You may have not been enamored with Grant, but at least I can justify the hire. He isn’t the second coming, but I could see him being a solid guy that runs a well managed program. His floor is significantly higher than a first time HC with limited experience outside of of the blue blood bubble.
 
Canedude08 said:
Reaching for the race card. Stop it, just stop it. As a Black man, I find people that try to dismiss legitimate, rational criticism with that as disingenuous. In this case, it doesn't matter what background Jai was, he doesn’t have the experience, period. I would feel that way even if we didn’t share an ethnic heritage. Then again, you likely ignored how most of us on this board felt about Caputo, who actually has some experience. I want my alma mater to hire the best people possible, people with the best chance at success. There are plenty of solid Black coaches that Miami could have reached out to, that are proven. If Miami would have hired Shaka Smart, or even Anthony Grant, most of us would have been fine with it. It’s the hiring a relatively inexperienced “recruiter” that has only recruited at places where it’s almost impossible to fail, that has most of us annoyed. It’s obvious that Rad took the lazy, cheap way out because he doesn’t give a **** about basketball.
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I don’t know wtf the race card is. I am a black man too. Hearing a black man talk about pulling the race card is weird af.

You can go live in your post-racial bubble if you want too. Using the word BLACK is not calling somebody a racist or saying they made a racist statement. The word is only a color, but it seems to trigger people who wanna deny colors. Nor did I even allude to the plethora of stuff you projected onto my posts. I guess your eyes were laser focused on the word black, black man that you missed I used the word YOUNG right before. Guess I’m pulling the young card too.

Ive engaged with his dumb arguments. Im off that. It reached an impasse and i said he will change his tune because he will. Same people crying over Richard Pitino got no love for former Uminn coach Tubby Smith. Nor do they care that NMexico coaches have a history of failing when they leave for better jobs, or that NMexico has done well with coaches like Fran Fraschilla.

The point of what I continued to push back against — was that experience is the end all be all. Richard Pitino’s experience isn’t great experience (i.e. making it to the final four or elite 8 or winning a conference), and the dude I quoted gassed up Leonard Hamilton’s sub .500 OKState experience which did him no good during the first 7 seasons as a head coach at the university of miami.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Hating on a young black man? Who has certainly not earned the privilege of becoming the head coach at Miami?

**** off with that nonsense.
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How is it nonsense if it literally already happened in real life? Lmao. Our AD, who we hired from Clemson University, who has worked at GT/LSU/USCe and spoiler alert UMiami under the infallible Sam Jankovich, made the decision already. So he has already earned the privilege despite whatever you keep *****ing about
 
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