Chevis Jackson's Impact on Recruiting

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We'll use this thread to monitor Jackson's impact on recruiting (thanks to @Udynasty for the reminder). Some folks are still frustrated that we seemingly passed on Raymond 2x under Mario but Jackson by all accounts is a massive upgrade from Addae on both the recruiting and player interactions standpoint. Mario has been all over our current commits for a couple years now, but finding Merrit is all Jackson

 
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We'll use this thread to monitor Jackson's impact on recruiting (thanks to @Udynasty for the reminder). Some folks are still frustrated that we seemingly passed on Raymond 2x under Mario but Jackson by all accounts is a massive upgrade from Addae on both the recruiting and player interactions standpoint. Mario has been all over our current commits for a couple years now, but finding Merrit is all Jackson


Are they frustrated that Mandy passed on him twice as well? Or do they blame richt for the first time and Mandy the second? Even though Mandy chose to hire the bartender over Raymond when he first came in.

I'd say it's worth noting that we are not the only school that was passing up on Cory Raymond. We'd be naive to think the only people he reached out to was us. I know because of Dugan's that he reached out to FSU as well. So imagine how many various programs you reach out to yet no one has taken the opportunity to hire him for all these years. (Beyond the turds who rushed him out the door)
 
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How do you know for sure this will happen? Just curious.
There's no way to know anything for sure. However a lot more to this then can be discussed on here & to this second we have reason to believe he will end up here. But for some reason you always have to qualify a statement by saying things can always change so nothing is guaranteed. If I recall you had a family member that had some twists in recruiting. Didn't you? Than you know first hand how quickly it can all change.
 
Y'all keep saying we passed on Raymond like it was all willy-nilly.... I don't think it even got to the point of an actual interview for VARIOUS reasons.
 
Chevis feels a lot like Beard. A coach who’s been in the game a while and sees Miami as his best job yet. It’s a totally different energy compared to a guy like Addae who maybe viewed (editorializing on my part) as a step down from UGA.

Plus, either Guidry is more involved or Chevis’s experience with Guidry allows him to help recruits visualize themselves in the system a substantially higher and clearer level.
 
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Another observation. We hired a new DB coach and have five commitments. Four of five are blue chips/Top 247 guys and the lone three star has major offers.

UF with Will Harris in his first year has ZERO DB commitments.

Let’s keep it going and get Hanks in the next 30 days.
 
Definitely can't argue the results so far…And I'm glad we have young blood on the staff.

But in all honestly (and I don't know, this is why I'm asking, not downplaying the job he's done or am I flaming anyone), how much of it is just having the biggest bag for one kid and maybe not the other?
 
Definitely can't argue the results so far…And I'm glad we have young blood on the staff.

But in all honestly (and I don't know, this is why I'm asking, not downplaying the job he's done or am I flaming anyone), how much of it is just having the biggest bag for one kid and maybe not the other?
A lot of it is attributed to the money. But not just as to Chevis Jackson, but rather as to every assistant and head coach in college sports. Some people are better sales people than others, we all know this. But the vast majority of people are really good at sales when they are selling something really good, and the amount of money a player can receive, whether under the table or over the table, is a really, really good selling point.

My nephew is attending UM to play under Coach L and to play meaningful basketball games in March/April, But there is ZERO chance he ends up at UM if UM did not also offer a very competitive NIL package (and frankly the most of any school). Coach L and his assistants also did a nice job of selling the offense and my nephew’s role as well as making sure he felt wanted. But would any of that have mattered if UM could not at least be in the same NIL ballpark? I doubt it.

I’m just happy that we are out of the wilderness and able to offer competitive NIL packages which then allows our head coach’s personality and tenacity to come through. So in summation, Chevis deserves credit, but MIke Rumph might have been able to produce similar results had he had the same financial backing and an HC like Mario.

I would love to get @Brooklyndee’s opinion as to how well Rumph would have done as a recruiter under the present system.
 
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There's no way to know anything for sure. However a lot more to this then can be discussed on here & to this second we have reason to believe he will end up here. But for some reason you always have to qualify a statement by saying things can always change so nothing is guaranteed. If I recall you had a family member that had some twists in recruiting. Didn't you? Than you know first hand how quickly it can all change.
I understand and appreciate what you guys all bring to this site. I’m just so skeptical about DBs, corners in general when it comes to our beloved canes. We been burned so many times we are damaged goods my G. Yes, I do know there are twists and turns from the situation you mentioned, but for some reason; we just could never handle corners. This is the area I most want to see Cristobal make a difference.
 
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Chevis feels a lot like Beard. A coach who’s been in the game a while and sees Miami as his best job yet. It’s a totally different energy compared to a guy like Addae who maybe viewed (editorializing on my part) as a step down from UGA.

Plus, either Guidry is more involved or Chevis’s experience with Guidry allows him to help recruits visualize themselves in the system a substantially higher and clearer level.
Guidry definitely involved as he does coach the safeties
 
I understand and appreciate what you guys all bring to this site. I’m just so skeptical about DBs, corners in general when it comes to our beloved canes. We been burned so many times we are damaged goods my G. Yes, I do know there are twists and turns from the situation you mentioned, but for some reason; we just could never handle corners. This is the area I most want to see Cristobal make a difference.
Not to put my own bias into the situation here. But corner is the most skilled position in the field. However( just like with QB play) we are in large part dependent on other positions success for the average individual to really understand the level they play at. Being honest if you're a premier corner, do you wanna play on a defense that's full of holes? I wouldn't. I don't think we have many holes anymore.
 
A lot of it is attributed to the money. But not just as to Chevis Jackson, but rather as to every assistant and head coach in college sports. Some people are better sales people than others, we all know this. But the vast majority of people are really good at sales when they are selling something really good, and the amount of money a player can receive, whether under the table or over the table, is a really, really good selling point.

My nephew is attending UM to play under Coach L and to play meaningful basketball games in March/April, But there is ZERO chance he ends up at UM if UM did not also offer a very competitive NIL package (and frankly the most of any school). Coach L and his assistants also did a nice job of selling the offense and my nephew’s role as well as making sure he felt wanted. But would any of that have mattered if UM could not at least be in the same NIL ballpark? I doubt it.

I’m just happy that we are out of the wilderness and able to offer competitive NIL packages which then allows out head coach’s personality and tenacity to come through. So in summation, Chevis deserves credit, but MIke Rumph might have been able to produce similar results had he had the same financial backing and an HC like Mario.

I would love to get @Brooklyndee’s opinion as to how well Rumph would have done as a recruiter under the present system.
It's important to realize mikes role now is being a recruiter. That's literally what he does. Before anyone starts he's not only recruiting DBS. He recruits regionally. I think Mike would've been amazing as a DB coach under Mario. People always wanna put recruiting failures on him previously and that's fine. However it is a fact that he had to go through both Mandy and the bartender before he could even communicate with a kid. Two morons in front of him and horrible communication throughout simply leaves it at we got exactly what we saw. He was a great position coach. Had DBS playing above their heads and was developing cbs and safeties. That's what I want on staff now. Luckily Jackson seems to have hit the nail on the head.
 
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A lot of it is attributed to the money. But not just as to Chevis Jackson, but rather as to every assistant and head coach in college sports. Some people are better sales people than others, we all know this. But the vast majority of people are really good at sales when they are selling something really good, and the amount of money a player can receive, whether under the table or over the table, is a really, really good selling point.

My nephew is attending UM to play under Coach L and to play meaningful basketball games in March/April, But there is ZERO chance he ends up at UM if UM did not also offer a very competitive NIL package (and frankly the most of any school). Coach L and his assistants also did a nice job of selling the offense and my nephew’s role as well as making sure he felt wanted. But would any of that have mattered if UM could not at least be in the same NIL ballpark? I doubt it.

I’m just happy that we are out of the wilderness and able to offer competitive NIL packages which then allows out head coach’s personality and tenacity to come through. So in summation, Chevis deserves credit, but MIke Rumph might have been able to produce similar results had he had the same financial backing and an HC like Mario.

I would love to get @Brooklyndee’s opinion as to how well Rumph would have done as a recruiter under the present system.
Could probably go over the last few classes and name 15-20 guys that committed that would have never even returned a text message back in the day before we started investing

That might be conservative actually
 
Could probably go over the last few classes and name 15-20 guys that committed that would have never even returned a text message back in the day before we started investing

That might be conservative actually
At least that many, especially the national recruits like Samson, Francis, Riley Williams. Not to mention the portal guys. No shot at Ward, Martinez or Brown or Powell.

Maybe we still get some of the local guys liIke Wes and Chance but they would have been the class headliners.
 
This shouldn’t be a Raymond v Jackson argument. Mario hired legends and it didn’t work out so then he went with rising stars. The two prototypes can both be equally as good depending on the situation.

I’m a Raymond fan. At the same time, I’m optimistic Jackson becomes the legend Raymond already is. Mario and Guidry know what they’re doing. I understand why they went with him.
 
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