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NC_Canes_11 said:
I hate this. The committee didn’t get anything wrong except the seedings. Somehow the conf champ losers got easier paths than the winners.

They had no choice but to put these 12 teams in. You can’t put Miami or Bama or whoever in over SMU or Indiana. If we’re just throwing in the best or most entertaining teams in regardless of results on the field, then why play the games?
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We would have gotten our a$$ whooped because of our id10t DC who still can't figure out what to do..
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Exactly.

All year long we've been hearing about how the ACC was weak and how the ACC refs were TRYING to help Miami so that the ACC team could get 2 teams into the CFP (though Miami was the 2nd-most-penalized team in the ACC behind SMU).

Then, when they have **** all over us for a 5-point road loss and a 4-point road loss (to a Top 25 team currently) and the ACC ends up getting 2 teams into the CFP Top 12 ANYHOW, suddenly everyone remembers how awesome it would have been to have the #1 offense in the country, led by a Heisman finalist, going up against, say, NOTRE DAME...

Nope. The SEC-SEC-SEC conducted a months-long propaganda campaign that resulted in the "It Just Means More" conference getting exactly ONE MORE TEAM into the CFP compared to the ******-****** ACC.

And don't even get me started on the massive effort the CFP spent to make the first four games, essentially, HOME GAMES in nearly every respect, as they belatedly bemoan all the blowouts that happened. SO SHOCKING. So unforeseen...

Good job, everyone!
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When were the first round games EVER classified as anything but home games in the first round of the playoff?
 
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Alabama absolutely did not deserve a playoff birth. You don’t lose at Vanderbilt and at a bad Oklahoma team late in the season, by 21 points, and get a playoff birth by passing eye test. The eye test was the 24-3 loss. Alabama’s third loss was to Tennessee who got their *** kicked by Ohio State the other night..

Claiming Alabama deserved a playoff birth is admitting you agree with the pro-SEC narrative. Maybe that just means more to you.

Sure, Miami could’ve gotten one of the births instead of SMU. We’d love that as fans. But this is the Miami team that lost at Georgia Tech, gave up 300 yards rushing to a team with quarterback that couldn’t throw and and blew a 21-0 at Syracuse. But hey, we have Cam Ward so we should get special treatment as our losses don’t count.

Want to watch Notre Dame rush for 350 yards on our ****** defense, in the cold weather at night?

No ******* thank you.

The real truth is there aren’t 12 teams to make up a viable 12-team playoff, at least this season. Of course I don’t know why everybody expects only classic close games in the playoffs.

After four quick and ugly exits, we’re down to eight which is what the playoff field should’ve been. But they had to pick 12.
 
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Hoyacane1620 said:
in my neck of NY (north shore of Long Island), there are alot of Miami fans. They are also big ACC fans for the Olympic sports and Lax.

you are 100% correct about Penn State and ND... OSU too....
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I'm in CT now, probably right across the sound from me.

LAX is huge on the island. Wrestling, too.

You gonna come to MSG to watch GTown get slapped by the Johnnies later this season?
 
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CaneinBroward said:
When were the first round games EVER classified as anything but home games in the first round of the playoff?
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It's not about "classified". I understand the need to have a location that did not impact the bowl games, etc. and made it easy for pre-Christmas travel.

But there were a lot of OTHER elements that were excessively favorable to the home teams, including ticket sales, marching bands, etc. One of the posters on the board got a copy of the script, and it was identical to a home game.

The point is very simple, if the CFP wants "competitive games", then maybe they could try to even things up in the first round, regardless of where the games are played.

Had Miami managed to play itself into any games in Hard Rock, yes, it would have been the same stadium we normally play in, but under the bowl game protocols, we would not have been given all the advantages of a normal home game.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
It's not about "classified". I understand the need to have a location that did not impact the bowl games, etc. and made it easy for pre-Christmas travel.

But there were a lot of OTHER elements that were excessively favorable to the home teams, including ticket sales, marching bands, etc. One of the posters on the board got a copy of the script, and it was identical to a home game.

The point is very simple, if the CFP wants "competitive games", then maybe they could try to even things up in the first round, regardless of where the games are played.

Had Miami managed to play itself into any games in Hard Rock, yes, it would have been the same stadium we normally play in, but under the bowl game protocols, we would not have been given all the advantages of a normal home game.
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I disagree with your view that these games were ever intended to be considered neutral site games in anyway nor follow bowl game protocols. To me, they were play-in games to get to the quarterfinals and the underdogs understood all along they would have to play an away game to get into the formal dance. Btw, no different than the FCS playoff format where home games determine who moves on or the NFL for that matter.

Frankly, the CFP's committee's goal should be choosing the 12 worthiest participants. I think they did that based on the information available at the time. If there are blowouts, so be it. It's not like the 4 team playoff has not had its share of blowouts as well.

Personally, I wanted an 8 team playoff instead of the immediate jump to 12 from 4, but the power$ that be know what is be$t.
 
CaneinBroward said:
I disagree with your view that these games were ever intended to be considered neutral site games in anyway nor follow bowl game protocols. To me, they were play-in games to get to the quarterfinals and the underdogs understood all along they would have to play an away game to get into the formal dance. Btw, no different than the FCS playoff format where home games determine who moves on or the NFL for that matter.

Frankly, the CFP's committee's goal should be choosing the 12 worthiest participants. I think they did that based on the information available at the time. If there are blowouts, so be it. It's not like the 4 team playoff has not had its share of blowouts as well.

Personally, I wanted an 8 team playoff instead of the immediate jump to 12 from 4, but the power$ that be know what is be$t.
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Again, you're not listening.

I said that IF PEOPLE WANT TO STOP *****ING AND MOANING ABOUT FOUR BLOWOUT GAMES, then they should stop treating those four games as if they were home games and instead treat them as if they are bowl games, but held on someone's campus.

Pay attention.

I don't give two ***** about all of the excuses and qualifying. No matter what was "intended", we now have a bunch of ***** commentators pitching fits about the first four blowouts. So you EITHER create a situation that heavily favors the home team (and you can then minimize the Inter-Miami-style crying about how they won the Supporter's Shield and then lost in the first round) OR ELSE you create an even playing field to have competitive games that may or may not go in favor of the home team.

BUT YOU CAN'T DO BOTH. And then whine about it later.

That's the point. I don't give a **** about intentions. I am commenting on how things WERE set up, and then a bunch of people crying after the fact as if it was completely unforeseeable that all the home teams would win by blowouts.

Most obvious expectation ever.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Again, you're not listening.

I said that IF PEOPLE WANT TO STOP *****ING AND MOANING ABOUT FOUR BLOWOUT GAMES, then they should stop treating those four games as if they were home games and instead treat them as if they are bowl games, but held on someone's campus.

Pay attention.

I don't give two ***** about all of the excuses and qualifying. No matter what was "intended", we now have a bunch of ***** commentators pitching fits about the first four blowouts. So you EITHER create a situation that heavily favors the home team (and you can then minimize the Inter-Miami-style crying about how they won the Supporter's Shield and then lost in the first round) OR ELSE you create an even playing field to have competitive games that may or may not go in favor of the home team.

BUT YOU CAN'T DO BOTH. And then whine about it later.

That's the point. I don't give a **** about intentions. I am commenting on how things WERE set up, and then a bunch of people crying after the fact as if it was completely unforeseeable that all the home teams would win by blowouts.

Most obvious expectation ever.
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LOL Having both bands there, the same number of cheerleaders, and having one school's name painted in one end zone and the other school's name painted in the other would have given us 4 one score games coming down to the wire this past weekend? Oh geez, you're right. They should have gone the bowl game route. :rolleyes:

By the way, you know they pick the bowl games in the 2nd round based on how close they are to the higher seed? Oh, but then they'll probably have more fans there than the lower seeded team. The horror! If they didn't have the bowl system already baked into FBS tradition and economics, these games would be played at the home stadiums of those teams too until they got to the championship game. You know, like the FCS and NFL do it.

Pundits are ****ing and moaning? Next, you'll tell me water is wet. So what? What they should really be pointing out is 12 is too many (at least for now), but they won't and think about why?
 
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2: Ohio State-Tennessee, 14.3M (CFP)#3: Notre Dame-Indiana, 13.4M (CFP)

two of the three highest watched games this year were CFP Playoffs. those 2 games are also the only 2 that didnt go h2h with NFL football
 
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