CFP Expansion

[Negro-Wan Kanobi]

6 team playoff.

5 auto bids for ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, and SEC champs + 1 at-large.

The conference championships act as the de-facto 1st round eliminating redundant bad matchups if you have a large bracket of 12/16 teams. Think of it as re-seeding the playoff teams after the conference championships are played.

I rather have 6 myself, but I seen only 8.

 

[BishopEli]

If we expand I’d rather just go all the way and switch to the fcs model, 24 teams, all conferences get a auto bid, top 8 get byes and eliminate the stupid bowls no one wants to play in anyway. Half the bowls cost schools more than they make, opt outs everywhere, tons of **** locations, let’s just pull the plug

 

[villain]

Playoffs should only have 6 spots. Each power 5 team get conference champ in and the 6th seed is at large bid (norte dame vs. 125 teams for that last spot). Top two teams get a bye week, while 3-6 duke it out

 

[JOE'CANE]

I'm down for any type of expansion as long as there's no bye weeks for the top seeds. I know the bias that would occur with the bye week selection.

 

[Hardcore Cane]

Nfl teams have won the super bowl without winning their division…so the nfl playoffs must be messed up too. And by expanding the playoffs, all you’re doing is creating more opportunities for teams that didn’t win their conference to win the CFP

And 9-7 , 10-6 teams have missed the playoffs while 7-9 teams made the playoffs in the same year.

you are correct, The NFL playoffs are messed up as well. Any team that wins 10 games in the NFL deserves a playoff spot.

that’s an entirely different subject tho

 

[blushrts]

A 16-team playoff sounds just like 1-AA, D2, and D3.

There's no need to discuss some outlandish formula for it. That model has existed for decades. If you're obsessed with expanding the playoff (I'm not), then just copy it.

This. It's already done. Use the bowls for the games, or sweeten the pot with the top 8 seeds getting another home game.

And before someone says "the same teams will always win" that's probably true most of the time. But weren't we supposed to get blown off the field by the best college football team of all time when we won our first?

I can't tell you most years who won the NCAA basketball championship. But I remember Villanova beating Georgetown and I remember NC State beating Houston. We would get some of those games in football as well. That's why they play the games.

 

[cway313]

6 team playoff.

5 auto bids for ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, and SEC champs + 1 at-large.

The conference championships act as the de-facto 1st round eliminating redundant bad matchups if you have a large bracket of 12/16 teams. Think of it as re-seeding the playoff teams after the conference championships are played.

6 drop mic

 

[caneULM]

My only gripe every year is if u don't win your conference u should be eliminated. **** in the NCAA games if u lost that game late u were out of it and rightfully so. UGA should be out I don't care if they are a top three team win your fuqin conference. Such a rigged and fuqed up system.

This. Close thread.

 

[HurricanesR1]

I've wanted 8 from the start.

 

[Hurracanes]

If you’re out of the top 5 you have no argument for a championship. An expansion ruins the greatest regular season (practically a playoff) in all of sports. Furthermore, all you’ll see is more SEC schools in it and everyone loses.

 

[Brains]

This. It's already done. Use the bowls for the games, or sweeten the pot with the top 8 seeds getting another home game.

And before someone says "the same teams will always win" that's probably true most of the time. But weren't we supposed to get blown off the field by the best college football team of all time when we won our first?

I can't tell you most years who won the NCAA basketball championship. But I remember Villanova beating Georgetown and I remember NC State beating Houston. We would get some of those games in football as well. That's why they play the games.

The same teams should win, quite frankly. It's as if people want to design a system that doesn't produce a deserving champion.

 

[Echtcane]

Whatever the system, I want it designed to remove as much judgment as possible from humans, otherwise known as bias, agendas or cheating. I see people advocating numbers of teams that would require byes. Noooooo! That's where the usual agenda-driven turds will put their favorites. For years I had always wanted a 16-team playoff, and at one time it could have been the perfect solution, but now they'll just use it as an excuse to load it with teams from the SEC. If we stick with a low number of teams, I agree with others who've said not winning your conference should eliminate you.

 

[CreativeCane]

6 team playoff.

5 auto bids for ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, and SEC champs + 1 at-large.

The conference championships act as the de-facto 1st round eliminating redundant bad matchups if you have a large bracket of 12/16 teams. Think of it as re-seeding the playoff teams after the conference championships are played.

I've been campaigning for this idea for years. It makes so much sense.

You could alternatively say 6 highest rated conference champs. So that way you always get a smaller Go5 team like Cincinatti or Boise State back in their day.

 

[CreativeCane]

Whatever the system, I want it designed to remove as much judgment as possible from humans, otherwise known as bias, agendas or cheating. I see people advocating numbers of teams that would require byes. Noooooo! That's where the usual agenda-driven turds will put their favorites. For years I had always wanted a 16-team playoff, and at one time it could have been the perfect solution, but now they'll just use it as an excuse to load it with teams from the SEC. If we stick with a low number of teams, I agree with others who've said not winning your conference should eliminate you.

This.

 

[TaylorWalls]

If you’re out of the top 5 you have no argument for a championship. An expansion ruins the greatest regular season (practically a playoff) in all of sports. Furthermore, all you’ll see is more SEC schools in it and everyone loses.

Amen. We regularly see the #3 and #4 teams getting blown out in the playoffs. But people think #12 might have a shot?

 

[AutoCANE]

6 team playoff.

5 auto bids for ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, and SEC champs + 1 at-large.

The conference championships act as the de-facto 1st round eliminating redundant bad matchups if you have a large bracket of 12/16 teams. Think of it as re-seeding the playoff teams after the conference championships are played.

Added an option for a 6 team playoff in the poll

 

[CreativeCane]

There’s always going to be someone who feels they got shafted. If you just pick the conference champions, you’re potentially telling Georgia “sorry, Wake Forrest is better” which even Wake fans would admit is stupid.

But is it about who is "best" or who has earned it? You can only win the games you play, and the games have to matter. Conference champs makes every conference championship game important. It also makes scheduling tough OOC games more likely because they don't affect your chances, just playoff ranking order.

If you're truly worthy, you win your conference, no matter how difficult. The fact that SEC championship game this year really meant very little is sad. Or that a team can sit out championship weekend because they didn't win their division and leapfrog a team that actually plays and loses.

Conference champs gives everyone, statistically, an equal shot at the beginning of the season. Just watching how the CFP committee treated Cincinnati early in the rankings shows that the deck is already stacked. As Canes Legacy said, it turns the conference championship into a de facto first round. So in actuality you're getting closer to 12 teams without adding more games.

 

[Tempest]

8 or 12.

 

[TheChosenOne]

16 team playoffs.

Home games for top 8.

Autobid for 4 highest ranked conf champ.

Only 4 (or 5) teams limit per conference can make the CFP. To prevent SEC overload/redundant conference rematches.

 

[DTP]

But is it about who is "best" or who has earned it? You can only win the games you play, and the games have to matter. Conference champs makes every conference championship game important. It also makes scheduling tough OOC games more likely because they don't affect your chances, just playoff ranking order.

If you're truly worthy, you win your conference, no matter how difficult. The fact that SEC championship game this year really meant very little is sad. Or that a team can sit out championship weekend because they didn't win their division and leapfrog a team that actually plays and loses.

Conference champs gives everyone, statistically, an equal shot at the beginning of the season. Just watching how the CFP committee treated Cincinnati early in the rankings shows that the deck is already stacked. As Canes Legacy said, it turns the conference championship into a de facto first round. So in actuality you're getting closer to 12 teams without adding more games.

Like I said, someone is always going to feel like they got shafted no matter what. The NFL division winners automatically qualify for a playoff spot and often times better teams get left out because they play in a tougher division. Did an 8-8 division winner “earn” their playoff spot simply because they were the best team in a really bad grouping?