#CanesCamp Notebook (August 21)

[The Franchise]

“I thought Jake was sharp,” Golden said. “We threw some more deep balls than we have. He worked through his progressions and did a good job.”

We screwed

No doubt. It sucks to have 2 QBs doing well in practice.

And you know this how???....ahhh I get it with your own eyes, because surely you were there.

Tell me why we're screwed since neither of us saw practice. Are we screwed because Al said Heaps was sharp today? That makes CIS sense.

 

[The Franchise]

Florida game. Came out at noon. Beat the Gators. I remember it.

Wake Forest - The first touchdown was half way through the 1st and the 2nd TD was half way through the 2nd quarter. First was a long drive. Second included a big play. ---- Our defense giving up long drives is not a surprise nor an indication the team came out flat.

Not playing well is entirely different than "coming out flat" because of weather.

Not only does practicing in the humidity for an extra hour today not solve all 3 problems at ONCE, it solves none of the 3 issues you mentioned since it was at the end of a reportedly strong practice, not the beginning.

Common sense is dealing with real issues and criticizing and analyzing appropriately rather than trying to use a practice cut short to extrapolate larger agenda issues.

I have zero agenda, I assure you. I call it both ways. Not sure you're the same. I remember when humidity was not a big deal and made us stronger.

The Wake Forest game we came out flat. They drove on their first 3 drives. They drove and we did nothing. They drove and we scored 3 points. They drove and we did nothing. So the majority first half we played flat and unmotivated football. The offense sucked and the defense sucked. FLAT FLAT FLAT.

Call it lack of motivation and focus, call it humidity (likely a bunch of things) but I call it lack of mental toughness. IMO one way to get mentally tough is playing in disgusting conditions like HOT WEATHER. Something we used to pride ourselves on.

If we played every game like UF (which we don't see against Duke, VT and UL) then I would be more than happy. That was tough and physical football. I love that chit. That is what I want. 4 quarters of that chit will make anyone satisfied.

When you play unmotivated football, when you look flat and weak, I tend to think you're not mentally tough. The reason I was remarking on the practice being cut short is because of last year and those last 5 games. The way we finished the season is crap. The way we finished the season is what scares me. I fear we're not mentally tough. I fear we will let down and come out flat. So yes practicing in tough conditions makes you mentally tough. We used to pride ourselves on this practice.

Now we could have cut practice short and I'm making a big deal of nothing, fine. I'll admit it. But because I fear that we're no different then last year is why I brought it up.

You're reading too much into cutting one practice short. I don't think we struggled last year because we cut today's practice short. We weren't very good last year, but I don't think it had anything to do with cutting practice short today.

Not everything matters so much. It's a few minutes cut off the end of one practice. You gotta know when to push and when to pull back a little. You don't necessarily make a soft guy tough by practicing an extra 30 minutes in 120 degree heat one day. Either you're recruiting tough guys, or you aren't. You're not going to make them tough by going through the motions the last few minutes of one practice.

 

[netdebt]

ñó, qué pesa'o está este pueblo!

 

[theibisrules]

“I thought Jake was sharp,” Golden said. “We threw some more deep balls than we have. He worked through his progressions and did a good job.”

We screwed

No doubt. It sucks to have 2 QBs doing well in practice.

And you know this how???....ahhh I get it with your own eyes, because surely you were there.

Tell me why we're screwed since neither of us saw practice. Are we screwed because Al said Heaps was sharp today? That makes CIS sense.

Just because anyone says this one is sharp or that one is sharp means ZERO to me....I hear Antonio Crawford was SHARP today, yet I am willing to bet money that he will get torched literally every time he is on the field. For that matter Hertelou was a force today, yet i'm almost certain he will be no factor.

 

[The Franchise]

“I thought Jake was sharp,” Golden said. “We threw some more deep balls than we have. He worked through his progressions and did a good job.”

We screwed

No doubt. It sucks to have 2 QBs doing well in practice.

And you know this how???....ahhh I get it with your own eyes, because surely you were there.

Tell me why we're screwed since neither of us saw practice. Are we screwed because Al said Heaps was sharp today? That makes CIS sense.

Just because anyone says this one is sharp or that one is sharp means ZERO to me....I hear Antonio Crawford was SHARP today, yet I am willing to bet money that he will get torched literally every time he is on the field. For that matter Hertelou was a force today, yet i'm almost certain he will be no factor.

So we're screwed because Al complimented a player, and you think that's a jinx? OK. That makes more sense. Thanks, pal.

 

[wherrera8]

This thread took about 5 posts to be de-railed into a weather argument.

Excellent job today everyone.

 

[k9cane]

You can read into that Golden and the staff is happy with where the team is at and the fall camp that has occurred( thus far) and doesn't want to over-train/condition them( and yes, that can happen) or risk an injury in what has been a pretty good camp in that regard(knock on wood)

A satisfied coach who is secure with where his squad is at, wouldn't do this

Or....maybe UM is now just a bunch of pansies like some think

 

[theibisrules]

You can read into that Golden and the staff is happy with where the team is at and the fall camp that has occurred( thus far) and doesn't want to over-train/condition them( and yes, that can happen)

A satisfied coach who is secure with where his squad is at, wouldn't do this

Or....maybe UM is now just a bunch of pansies like some think

We will see where this is all at later in the season...not even at the Louisville game, but i'm thinking more around the Nebraska game.

 

[DHucks]

Lol at the golden propaganda machine trying to make our corners sound good burns and elder get beat more then not. Howard and gunter are serviceable at best. Yeah the crappie d line did not help last year but these guys are not stars. To all of you worried about Howard leaving after this season don't worry nobody wants a cb who runs 4.7 and can't tackle.

 

[Chuckles]

“I thought the humidity was catching up to us so I wanted to cut it."

I remember we used to work through this as it made us stronger and gave us an advantage. Times are a changing.

Dude, Alabama holds practices in a dome. No one calls them weak.

Dude, Alabma DOES NOT play in the south Florida heat do they? The weather in south Florida has ALWAYS been this way.

Nah...they just play in Tuscaloosa...which is of course more like North Pole

T-Town in its hottest is not hotter than south Florida....and it NEVER will be. Stop letting people lie to you, if the hot weather wasn't a factor for Sapp and Ray Lewis then it shouldn't be a problem for these kids.

Suggest you check the weather right now. It's 96 in Tuscaloosa and 88 in Miami.

 

[Consigliere]

“I thought the humidity was catching up to us so I wanted to cut it."

I remember we used to work through this as it made us stronger and gave us an advantage. Times are a changing.

What a horrible, ignorant, misguided post. For one, you're wrong. JJ and Schnelly would not only reward the team with cut practices when they we're practicing well, but even send star players off to the locker room early. Two, you're the same guy who is attacking the program for not having a bubble. Now we're not tough enough?

I get that people are just miserable sometimes, but its like we're trading Cane fans for opponent's fans here sometimes.

PS- nothing personal.

/runs

Still waiting for answer bomb to your genius post about the cloud.

 

[Consigliere]

You're reading too much into cutting one practice short. I don't think we struggled last year because we cut today's practice short. We weren't very good last year, but I don't think it had anything to do with cutting practice short today.

Not everything matters so much. It's a few minutes cut off the end of one practice. You gotta know when to push and when to pull back a little. You don't necessarily make a soft guy tough by practicing an extra 30 minutes in 120 degree heat one day. Either you're recruiting tough guys, or you aren't. You're not going to make them tough by going through the motions the last few minutes of one practice.

That's fine and probably true. I'm not trying to be Statler and Waldorf either....Just we're going into year 4 and it's been hard to swallow since UL and the "debacle."

I just fear more of the same...that was my point.

 

[rickay]

Dude, Alabama holds practices in a dome. No one calls them weak.

Dude, Alabma DOES NOT play in the south Florida heat do they? The weather in south Florida has ALWAYS been this way.

Nah...they just play in Tuscaloosa...which is of course more like North Pole

T-Town in its hottest is not hotter than south Florida....and it NEVER will be. Stop letting people lie to you, if the hot weather wasn't a factor for Sapp and Ray Lewis then it shouldn't be a problem for these kids.

Suggest you check the weather right now. It's 96 in Tuscaloosa and 88 in Miami.

They playing in a dome right now. What's the point jack?

 

[theibisrules]

Dude, Alabama holds practices in a dome. No one calls them weak.

Dude, Alabma DOES NOT play in the south Florida heat do they? The weather in south Florida has ALWAYS been this way.

Nah...they just play in Tuscaloosa...which is of course more like North Pole

T-Town in its hottest is not hotter than south Florida....and it NEVER will be. Stop letting people lie to you, if the hot weather wasn't a factor for Sapp and Ray Lewis then it shouldn't be a problem for these kids.

Suggest you check the weather right now. It's 96 in Tuscaloosa and 88 in Miami.

Once again moron...I suggest you look at the air index. Miami has a more humid climate that in northern Alabama. I have lived in BOTH places and the heat is WAY worse in south Florida. Geography and Meteorology for dummies. Anytime I can get an idiot to say it's hotter in Alabama than it is in the TROPICS I know I need to read post elsewhere. ##UPDATED## Unless the heat you are referencing is the heat the rednecks put on people of color in Alabama then yes you are right sir.

 

[The Franchise]

You're reading too much into cutting one practice short. I don't think we struggled last year because we cut today's practice short. We weren't very good last year, but I don't think it had anything to do with cutting practice short today.

Not everything matters so much. It's a few minutes cut off the end of one practice. You gotta know when to push and when to pull back a little. You don't necessarily make a soft guy tough by practicing an extra 30 minutes in 120 degree heat one day. Either you're recruiting tough guys, or you aren't. You're not going to make them tough by going through the motions the last few minutes of one practice.

That's fine and probably true. I'm not trying to be Statler and Waldorf either....Just we're going into year 4 and it's been hard to swallow since UL and the "debacle."

I just fear more of the same...that was my point.

If we suck this year it'll have nothing to do with taking that last few minutes off from that one practice. It'll be because we can't get it done with this coaching staff. If we tank this year it should be pretty obvious what's going on.

 

[TheMatador]

On the upside, those 3014 Canes teams will be tough as nails...

By then south Florida will be underwater.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Bunch wannabe weather dudes in here

 

[Consigliere]

You're reading too much into cutting one practice short. I don't think we struggled last year because we cut today's practice short. We weren't very good last year, but I don't think it had anything to do with cutting practice short today.

Not everything matters so much. It's a few minutes cut off the end of one practice. You gotta know when to push and when to pull back a little. You don't necessarily make a soft guy tough by practicing an extra 30 minutes in 120 degree heat one day. Either you're recruiting tough guys, or you aren't. You're not going to make them tough by going through the motions the last few minutes of one practice.

That's fine and probably true. I'm not trying to be Statler and Waldorf either....Just we're going into year 4 and it's been hard to swallow since UL and the "debacle."

I just fear more of the same...that was my point.

If we suck this year it'll have nothing to do with taking that last few minutes off from that one practice. It'll be because we can't get it done with this coaching staff. If we tank this year it should be pretty obvious what's going on.

Fair enough.

 

[Calinative]

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CORAL GABLES, Fla. – After a two-a-day session on Wednesday, the Miami Hurricanes spent Thursday morning working hard under the South Florida sun.

The morning session was the only #CanesCamp practice scheduled for Thursday and head coach Al Golden decided to end the session early to give his team a break after powering through tough conditions to have a productive practice.

“I cut it a little bit,” Golden said. “I thought the humidity was catching up to us so I wanted to cut it. they did a good job responding and I thought they pushed through it, so we are going to give them a big break here and get them off their feet.”

There were several highlights on offense including a 25-yard run by sophomore running back Gus Edwards and a pair of first downs thrown by freshman quarterback Brad Kaaya to D’Mauri Jones and Malcolm Lewis.

Senior Ryan Williams also looked good in the 7-on-7 period, connected with senior tight end Clive Walford for 20 yards. Fellow senior Jake Heaps also impressed, threading a ball through defenders and to junior wideout Herb Waters for a 15-yard gain.

“I thought Jake was sharp,” Golden said. “We threw some more deep balls than we have. He worked through his progressions and did a good job.”

Defensively, Antonio Crawford was the latest defensive back to put up a stellar showing. A deep group that includes juniors Tracy Howard and Ladarius Gunter, as well as sophomores Artie Burns and Corn Elder, the cornerback competition has been intense and Golden is pleased with the depth the Canes have at the position.

“Yesterday I thought Ladarius looked really improved,” Golden said. “Corn probably had his best day yesterday and Artie did real well. Then we come back today and Antonio gets two interceptions and he looks better. It’s a group that’s competing. It’s a good situation because they’re competing for both corner spots and the starter at nickel.”

The Canes will return to Greentree Friday for a two-a-day session of #CanesCamp, beginning at 8:20 a.m., and continuing at 3:20 p.m. For the latest information on Miami Hurricanes Football, follow @MiamiHurricanes on Twitter.

Anyone else notice that Gunter has been referred to for the majority of camp as a "junior?"

Are they just fuucking up, as I was under the impression he was a senior?

Pretty sure hes a redshirt junior. He redshirted and had to sit out a yr when he transferred here. But im only kinda sure...

 

[pbcup]

Gunter is a senior. 2 years at JUCO, redshirted one of those years and this is his 3rd year here