Canes were 7-0 in 2013, finished 9-4

[L A M P]

You're assuming that every single game we would play would end up like VA Tech??

Couldn't it be argued that every team you suppose we would lose to could also have a bad game as well?

And what exactly makes the SEC a "real conference", as opposed to any of the other P4? Are you saying that even their bad teams would just dominate every other conferences teams, or are you saying that the SEC doesn't have any bad teams?

I’m saying the odds of being able to get away with a bad game (or several) in the ACC are much higher in the ACC vs SEC. They are better at the top. Better in the middle. And better at the bottom.

 

[L A M P]

Who's SEC schedule?
Take a look at Mizzou's schedule, who's ranked right with us.

This is the problem that I'll have come playoff selection time.
Not all SEC schedules are created equal.

Thank you. I scrolled through the list and didn’t find an obvious one. This is understandable. Subpar.

 

[L A M P]

Putting Vandy in italics has made me rethink everything

That’s kind of what I was going for. Thanks for noticing.

 

[Yoyo423]

Kentucky could compete to win the ACC. Bama won by 3 scores. OU would compete to win ACC.

The same Kentucky that lost 31-6 to south Carolina? The same Oklahoma that beat Houston 16-12?

 

[L A M P]

The same Kentucky that lost 31-6 to south Carolina? The same Oklahoma that beat Houston 16-12?

Yes same ones. Cant cherry pick. Same Kentucky that almost beat Georgia who beat the best team in the ACC by 5 touchdowns. Not fair, is it?

 

[Yoyo423]

Yes same ones. Cant cherry pick. Same Kentucky that almost beat Georgia who beat the best team in the ACC by 5 touchdowns. Not fair, is it?

You can't cherry pick. That's correct..so don't just cherry pick the VT game for us. We beat USF by 5 TDs at their stadium and Bama beat them by 3 at home. Does that make us better than Bama?

Point is you can't judge a team by one bad game, especially if they still won. We'll see how we respond after a close game with VT.

 

[L A M P]

You can't cherry pick. That's correct..so don't just cherry pick the VT game for us. We beat USF by 5 TDs at their stadium and Bama beat them by 3 at home. Does that make us better than Bama?

Point is you can't judge a team by one bad game, especially if they still won. We'll see how we respond after a close game with VT.

I've explained my stance in depth. Nobody really has responded to my reasoning. I'm not saying I'm correct. It's just how I feel and why I feel that way. The only response I keep getting is "Nuh-uh".

One more time.

We have been one dimensional on offense all year. Struggled to run the football. Against poor opponents. We've struggled against the pass the last several weeks against poor passing opponents. This causes me concern. So does our 2 deep.

I think in a conference with so many quality teams, it could & would eventually bite us. Maybe I'm wrong.

**I'm not panicking. I'm not down on our team. Not battered wife. Enjoy Cam. Enjoy how hard we play. I just think we are a Top 25 team with a playoff ceiling due to one player. Just need a lot of good fortune. (as do most)

I digress.

I'll keep this opinion to myself moving forward.

Let's Go Canes!

 

[DTP]

2001 Miami was a dropped 2 point conversion away from overtime against a post Mike Vick VT team that turned it over 5 times. Miami only averaged 3.6 yards per carry on the ground and Ken Dorsey completed fewer than 50% of his passes. Even the very best teams have subpar games. If the Cal game comes down to a final drive, I’ll get concerned. Until then I’m not getting panicky. Especially about the offense.

 

[JHallCanes]

That’s kind of what I was going for. Thanks for noticing.

 

[Gransapo]

There isn't a Canes team since the 2004 team that would be favored to beat this version of Miami. TBH, it probably would be the 2003 team but I respect Gore and Hester too much to make them underdogs.

 

[ddann]

This Saturday I’m hoping to see improvements from the mistakes of the Virginia Tech game.

Not because Cal provides different challenges than VT.

Better fundamentals. Smarter play. Fewer penalties. Fewer missed tackles. No turnovers.

Perfection, no, but at least progress.

 

[Fightinibis]

We've turned a corner, but maybe not THE corner. That gets determined in mid January. In the meantime, I recommend smoking/ingesting large amounts of marijuana in order to cope with that case of PTSD that you're suffering from.

For the guys talking about NFL talent, I think we have those guys on the roster, most are just not eligible for the draft yet - CiCi, Lofton, Popo, Justin Scott, Armondo Blount, Bain, Zaquan, JoJo, Judd, Jordan Lyle all come to mind. Arroyo, Cam, Anez, Jalen Rivers, X, Baron and Mesidor all come to mind as guys that could be really good at the next level and are eligibile (I believe).

THE corner has DB recruiting at an elite level and the DT position with a few guys that demand double teams and shores up the middle.

This team was exposed to a degree Friday, no doubt. That said, what the coaches do with the knowledge that the rest of our opponents will be sleeping with that video will say it all. Are we flexible enough to adapt or are we so bullish as to pretend like we didn’t see what we all know we did…

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

THE corner has DB recruiting at an elite level and the DT position with a few guys that demand double teams and shores up the middle.

This team was exposed to a degree Friday, no doubt. That said, what the coaches do with the knowledge that the rest of our opponents will be sleeping with that video will say it all. Are we flexible enough to adapt or are we so bullish as to pretend like we didn’t see what we all know we did…

Those two positions are the most difficult (along with QB) to find truly elite talent.

 

[Fightinibis]

Those two positions are the most difficult (along with QB) to find truly elite talent.

Actually not to find, but to afford. I agree that the Country isn’t littered with them, especially plug and play from the get go.

Pre-NIL, I would argue true punishing bullies at Nose Tackle or DT were as expensive as the top QBs…so it wasn’t surprising most of them ended up at $EC schools.

 

[Memnon]

I’m saying the odds of being able to get away with a bad game (or several) in the ACC are much higher in the ACC vs SEC. They are better at the top. Better in the middle. And better at the bottom.

So which bottom & middle tier teams in the SEC would beat us?

And again, aren't you assuming that those SEC teams are incapable of having a bad game as well?

 

[grover]

I've explained my stance in depth. Nobody really has responded to my reasoning. I'm not saying I'm correct. It's just how I feel and why I feel that way. The only response I keep getting is "Nuh-uh".

One more time.

We have been one dimensional on offense all year. Struggled to run the football. Against poor opponents. We've struggled against the pass the last several weeks against poor passing opponents. This causes me concern. So does our 2 deep.

I think in a conference with so many quality teams, it could & would eventually bite us. Maybe I'm wrong.

**I'm not panicking. I'm not down on our team. Not battered wife. Enjoy Cam. Enjoy how hard we play. I just think we are a Top 25 team with a playoff ceiling due to one player. Just need a lot of good fortune. (as do most)

I digress.

I'll keep this opinion to myself moving forward.

Let's Go Canes!

Having authored this thread, I couldn't agree with you more. This team has quality talent and can be very good, especially because of Cam. But we also have a lot of concerns that need to be addressed, and we aren't good enough (yet) to win without some luck.

Our run game is the biggest issue on offense. All NFL guys and we can't generate a push and dictate the game? That's primarily on Dawson and secondarily on Cam given he calls a lot of plays at the line. Cam also needs to protect the football better. He acknowledged that was his Achilles heel headed into the season, he needs to show he can do it.

On defense, we now have multiple concerns. But by far most important IMO are tackling and setting the edge. The DBs are going to have good plays and bad plays. But if the front seven do their part, we'll win a lot of games.

I'm looking for more young talent to step up to help out the more senior guys. We have a deep bench at LB, need to use it. Patterson and Williams need to play more at S, maybe allows Meesh to move to nickel and takes Richard off the field more often. Our younger DTs and Campbell should rotate in a lot more. More Ray Ray, JoJo, CJ, Lyle and Allen.

 

[grover]

So which bottom & middle tier teams in the SEC would beat us?

And again, aren't you assuming that those SEC teams are incapable of having a bad game as well?

Just to be clear, I also agree with this. We may have holes. But so do the vast majority of SEC teams, and nearly all of them would have struggled just as much as we did against a VT playing the way VT played on Friday.

 

[JHallCanes]

The absolutely astonishing way our fans view our flaws as a team and refuse to acknowledge other teams is actually beautiful to watch

I mean it’s painful, but **** you almost gotta respect it

 

[grover]

The absolutely astonishing way our fans view our flaws as a team and refuse to acknowledge other teams is actually beautiful to watch

I mean it’s painful, but **** you almost gotta respect it

I don't know if you're talking about me or LAMP or in general. But I see a ton of very flawed teams right now. I don't think there's one we couldn't beat. But there are also 30-50 teams who could beat us if we aren't locked in more than we were on Friday. Just a lot more parity among the P4 now than before, and the recent rules changes have also evened out the playing field to some degree.

 

[JHallCanes]

I don't know if you're talking about me or LAMP or in general. But I see a ton of very flawed teams right now. I don't think there's one we couldn't beat. But there are also 30-50 teams who could beat us if we aren't locked in more than we were on Friday. Just a lot more parity among the P4 now than before, and the recent rules changes have also evened out the playing field to some degree.

You already addressed it in another post so not you

If I was talking about someone specific I’ll just @ them or quote them

It just goes back to the same things with me reading a lot of comments. People don’t watch a lot of other games (which hey I’m not saying that’s a bad thing at all) and they’ve got trauma with us (also understandable)