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Ryanmilli said:
Have you watched IU play? IU is pretty good. Really well coached. Margin of victory is highest or among highest in the country. The OSU game was 7-7 with a couple minutes left in the 1H then IU gifted OSU 2 TDs on special teams gaffes on both sides of halftime that turned the game (plus OSU scored a late style points TD after an onside kick).

The takeaway here is that we effectively start the season 1.5 games back from most every SEC and B1G team. And that SEC and B1G are going to get the 4 teams they want every year barring some absurdity. And perhaps that we have nothing to gain scheduling strong OOC games because they apparently can only hurt us.
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I have watched them play, the bottom of the Big10 and a bunch of crap OOC games. Their schedule is weak. They played one decent team, and got beat, bad.
 
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QuattroCane said:
I find it comical, in a pathetic sort of way, that certain posters are on a Miami site arguing that Miami fans should be accepting of their team getting screwed when the metrics say otherwise. So weird.
How vapid must your life be to be that person?
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@ me next time fella
 
TOcane said:
The biggest game last weekend outside of our own was UT vs Vandy. If UT lost we were in no questions.
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I saw that you thought we’d go 9-3 with Bama’s schedule, and I agree.
I’m wondering why Tennessee is so teflon after looking at their schedule.
 
NJshoreCane said:
I saw that you thought we’d go 9-3 with Bama’s schedule, and I agree.
I’m wondering why Tennessee is so teflon after looking at their schedule.
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The dumbest part of the whole argument is the SOS. It really shouldn't matter they didn't lose to the strength of their schedule.
 
They need to adopt the Champions League system. Works well. Oh, this is a tournament where all the European soccer teams play. Best of Europe. It isn’t poll based. Leagues get slots.

1. 4. SEC teams
2. 4 BIG teams
3. 2 ACC teams
4. 2 B12 teams

All based upon the actual league standings and not trying to guess how each team would do.

You also scrap the group of 5 teams. Set up an NIT second tournament if you want using their league standings.
 
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Zombie-Cane said:
I have watched them play, the bottom of the Big10 and a bunch of crap OOC games. Their schedule is weak. They played one decent team, and got beat, bad.
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That’s fair enough. I guess we’ll find out.

I went to both IU and ND and live in South Bend. I’ve loved the Canes since I was little and one of my daughters goes to the U. I’ve seen every IU game and UM game this season. IU did benefit from the luck of the draw, but it played really, really good football very consistently for all but a few quarters this year. Cignetti may be the best coach in America.

I would much rather have UM in. But my own personal opinion is that it would be unjust to put them in over a 1 loss IU that played very well and had a huge margin of victory over the schedule it played. I mean, it’s SOS is not much worse than UMs (65 vs 55) and last I knew it led the nation in margin of victory.

But then, I also think it’s unjust to put a 3 loss Bama in over UM. I’m with Mario in terms of records mattering and I don’t think UM should have to be 11-1 to beat out a 9-3 SEC team, especially when it crushed the only SEC team it played on the road. That precedent is really disappointing because it means we start the season 1.5 games out from the SEC and B1G teams even when they play nobody OOC.
 
TOcane said:
The dumbest part of the whole argument is the SOS. It really shouldn't matter they didn't lose to the strength of their schedule.
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SOS is a straw man argument. If you only play your own conference and lose/win, then your SOS is dependent on initial rankings before the committee even makes there starting rankings. "We are the bestest conferences because we play ranked selves against our ranked selves. We are bestest!!
 
DangerMouse949 said:
SOS is a straw man argument. If you only play your own conference and lose/win, then your SOS is dependent on initial rankings before the committee even makes there starting rankings. "We are the bestest conferences because we play ranked selves against our ranked selves. We are bestest!!
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It's even worse. Strength of schedule is built mainly by brands. When the SEC/BIG10 started consolidating all the big brands they locked in more perpetual top 25 teams to be rotated within their conference.

FSU being down this year really, really, really hurt Miami. If we beat a ranked, 9 or 10 win FSU team I think we're in the college playoff right now.
 
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So the committee that controls the top 25 chooses to leave teams off top 25 that we beat (because we beat them), when they are clearly top 30, and may rank them in the top 25 for end of season rankings.... Yet uses that specific metric as THE reason Bama is ahead of Miami lol and refused to readjust their rankings next week because the two aren't playing? Lol

This is why we need to just schedule our easy non con games at the end of the season. And ACC needs to schedule all the hard teams early. Absolute bs that you can use a specific metric to justify a ranking but then not readjust as the weeks progress.
 
It's interesting. He said many contradictory things the other night. Teams not playing in conf. championships won't move because there won't be any further "data points"

He also said they would meet to do the final ranking because "the ADS asked them to work up to the CFP" seeding.

So they are clearly going to have to evaluate everyone.
 
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