Can we give credit to D'onofrio?

Kacy effin Rodgers.... dude takes the worst angles, seems like he has no desire to make a play on the ball.... it's almost comical at this point
 
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Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.
 
Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.

LOL I was just about to co sign the OP's post til I saw this one. We were lucky in a few instances. Still the guys showed a pulse,so Dorito deserves some credit. I saw improvement
 
Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.

Disagree with you, dole; I'm with the OP. The D kept us within 3 points into the 4th Q (only gave up 16 through 3), and without those two early turnovers this game wasn't even close. Our offense was that bad last night. I didn't count how many 3-and-outs our O had, but it had to be at least 4. We had 150 total yards of offense midway into the 4th; our D was on the field the entire game, with pressure to keep stopping them. And they did, all the way into the 4th.
 
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Nice post. Would like to VT put back in the lineup after that game last night. VT is not great, is not even good, but he is better than 22.

Vt in the doghouse for yelling at DB coach for not getting playing time after inury...what a joke



Then he should be in the doghouse.

That's the type of garbage mentality we need to get rid of.

Besides, he's been a circus out there, too.
 
Who the **** said the defense is good?


Exactly.

The defense still sucks, but it's improving.

This is one of the benefits of forcing teams to drive the field. They make mistakes, or someone on defense makes a great individual play to get them behind the chains.
 
Who the **** said the defense is good?


Exactly.

The defense still sucks, but it's improving.

This is one of the benefits of forcing teams to drive the field. They make mistakes, or someone on defense makes a great individual play to get them behind the chains.

Two weeks in a row the defense has stepped up. Yeah its still a bad defense but they are starting to make more plays. Bodes well for Logan Thomas coming to town.
 
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Gotta give credit to Dorito. Not only did we play better on D we were hitting hard and flying around. Every team makes mistakes, misses field goals, QB makes bad decisions, etc. doesn't mean the D didn't play well. Yes we still suck overall, but another year or two of recruiting legit players and this defense is gonna be very very good.
 
I love the mentality of "well if FSU hadn't committed those turnovers they would have scored 40"

No ****. That is the whole point of turnovers.

We forced them to make mistakes which kept us in it. That is what a good defense does
 
Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.

This.

440+ yards of total offense. 215+ yards rushing.

No adjustment to the spread running game...again. Fsu was running the same few plays over and over. Split back strongside sweep, Split back misdirection weak, Triple option weakside, and play action off split back run. We even got a break with Thompson out because that guy was just starting to absolutely shred us and he is the scariest back on their roster.

Our guys came out more intense, hit hard and made more plays but FSU played exceptionally sloppy and undisciplined.Anyone can get guys to play hard against FSU

No D' Ofrio does not get a pass. He gets a little credit for adjusting since the NC game and playing his corners a little closer to ball more often and showing a bit more variety in coverage..

The 3rd and long before the half that let FSU off the hook and allowed them to drive for a FG was unacceptable. You can see the stark contrast in coaching. On third and long Stoops sent the house and had his DL shifting to confuse blockers. Stoops says "I'm comming and you've gotta block me and then make a play on my guys to get this first down". On the 3rd and very long No D' Ofrio goes with 3 DL, even when DL is our weakness. We end up not getting any pressure so the QB has all day to hit something underneath our safeties who are 20 yards deep or not being able to contain the QB if he decides to run.

This is still unacceptable coaching at the University of Miami. No D' Ofrio must go.
 
I love the mentality of "well if FSU hadn't committed those turnovers they would have scored 40"

No ****. That is the whole point of turnovers.

We forced them to make mistakes which kept us in it. That is what a good defense does

And they were VERY fortunate not to have a bunch more TO's
 
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That Gunter scoop and would be score on that bush hit would have changed everything, to me it looked like a fumble, but much like the big hit Sean Taylor put on the fsu wideout in 2002, it happened so fast that it was ruled an incompletion
 
Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.

This.

440+ yards of total offense. 215+ yards rushing.

No adjustment to the spread running game...again. Fsu was running the same few plays over and over. Split back strongside sweep, Split back misdirection weak, Triple option weakside, and play action off split back run. We even got a break with Thompson out because that guy was just starting to absolutely shred us and he is the scariest back on their roster.

Our guys came out more intense, hit hard and made more plays but FSU played exceptionally sloppy and undisciplined.Anyone can get guys to play hard against FSU

No D' Ofrio does not get a pass. He gets a little credit for adjusting since the NC game and playing his corners a little closer to ball more often and showing a bit more variety in coverage..

The 3rd and long before the half that let FSU off the hook and allowed them to drive for a FG was unacceptable. You can see the stark contrast in coaching. On third and long Stoops sent the house and had his DL shifting to confuse blockers. Stoops says "I'm comming and you've gotta block me and then make a play on my guys to get this first down". On the 3rd and very long No D' Ofrio goes with 3 DL, even when DL is our weakness. We end up not getting any pressure so the QB has all day to hit something underneath our safeties who are 20 yards deep or not being able to contain the QB if he decides to run.

This is still unacceptable coaching at the University of Miami. No D' Ofrio must go.



And if we had sent the house on 3rd and 16 and gave it up, you'd complain about that, too.

We're severely limited on defense right now.
 
Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.

This.

440+ yards of total offense. 215+ yards rushing.

No adjustment to the spread running game...again. Fsu was running the same few plays over and over. Split back strongside sweep, Split back misdirection weak, Triple option weakside, and play action off split back run. We even got a break with Thompson out because that guy was just starting to absolutely shred us and he is the scariest back on their roster.

Our guys came out more intense, hit hard and made more plays but FSU played exceptionally sloppy and undisciplined.Anyone can get guys to play hard against FSU

No D' Ofrio does not get a pass. He gets a little credit for adjusting since the NC game and playing his corners a little closer to ball more often and showing a bit more variety in coverage..

The 3rd and long before the half that let FSU off the hook and allowed them to drive for a FG was unacceptable. You can see the stark contrast in coaching. On third and long Stoops sent the house and had his DL shifting to confuse blockers. Stoops says "I'm comming and you've gotta block me and then make a play on my guys to get this first down". On the 3rd and very long No D' Ofrio goes with 3 DL, even when DL is our weakness. We end up not getting any pressure so the QB has all day to hit something underneath our safeties who are 20 yards deep or not being able to contain the QB if he decides to run.

This is still unacceptable coaching at the University of Miami. No D' Ofrio must go.



And if we had sent the house on 3rd and 16 and gave it up, you'd complain about that, too.

We're severely limited on defense right now.

There you go making excuses again.

We must be the only team in division one where a 3rd and very long is an automatic first down no matter what defense we play. LMAO.

The fact is that we don't attack and they manage to convert 3rd and very long.

Regardless its on the D coordinator to get us off of the field in those situations and you can't possibly be suggesting that we don't have enough talent to get off of the field on 3rd and the house when every other team in college football seems to be able to do so.
 
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I'm still a believer that coach D isn't the problem. We just don't know the system fully yet and don't have the horses to run it
 
Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.

This.

440+ yards of total offense. 215+ yards rushing.

No adjustment to the spread running game...again. Fsu was running the same few plays over and over. Split back strongside sweep, Split back misdirection weak, Triple option weakside, and play action off split back run. We even got a break with Thompson out because that guy was just starting to absolutely shred us and he is the scariest back on their roster.

Our guys came out more intense, hit hard and made more plays but FSU played exceptionally sloppy and undisciplined.Anyone can get guys to play hard against FSU

No D' Ofrio does not get a pass. He gets a little credit for adjusting since the NC game and playing his corners a little closer to ball more often and showing a bit more variety in coverage..

The 3rd and long before the half that let FSU off the hook and allowed them to drive for a FG was unacceptable. You can see the stark contrast in coaching. On third and long Stoops sent the house and had his DL shifting to confuse blockers. Stoops says "I'm comming and you've gotta block me and then make a play on my guys to get this first down". On the 3rd and very long No D' Ofrio goes with 3 DL, even when DL is our weakness. We end up not getting any pressure so the QB has all day to hit something underneath our safeties who are 20 yards deep or not being able to contain the QB if he decides to run.

This is still unacceptable coaching at the University of Miami. No D' Ofrio must go.



And if we had sent the house on 3rd and 16 and gave it up, you'd complain about that, too.

We're severely limited on defense right now.

There you go making excuses again.

We must be the only team in division one where a 3rd and very long is an automatic first down no matter what defense we play. LMAO.

The fact is that we don't attack and they manage to convert 3rd and very long.

Regardless its on the D coordinator to get us off of the field in those situations and you can't possibly be suggesting that we don't have enough talent to get off of the field on 3rd and the house when every other team in college football seems to be able to do so.



You act like we're the first defense to ever give up a 3rd and 16.

If we jailbreak and they hit a 40 yard fade, are you okay with the play call?
 
Sorry, but I can't agree with this one. First off, "much better display" isn't saying much.

We still gave up 450 yards of offense and got BAILED out a bunch. A TD called back on a questionable offensive PI, a missed fg, a unforced fumble inside our territory, and a ton of penalties. They could have easily score 40+ on us this game.

Their wr's were wide open all over the field the entire game. We even got lucky on a couple plays where Manuel just made really bad throws to open wr's (play where we challenged that Deon Bush forced the fumble...really bad throw).

Sure I saw some improvement, but overall our defense just isn't good, plain and simple. I still don't understand how people can argue otherwise.

This.

440+ yards of total offense. 215+ yards rushing.

No adjustment to the spread running game...again. Fsu was running the same few plays over and over. Split back strongside sweep, Split back misdirection weak, Triple option weakside, and play action off split back run. We even got a break with Thompson out because that guy was just starting to absolutely shred us and he is the scariest back on their roster.

Our guys came out more intense, hit hard and made more plays but FSU played exceptionally sloppy and undisciplined.Anyone can get guys to play hard against FSU

No D' Ofrio does not get a pass. He gets a little credit for adjusting since the NC game and playing his corners a little closer to ball more often and showing a bit more variety in coverage..

The 3rd and long before the half that let FSU off the hook and allowed them to drive for a FG was unacceptable. You can see the stark contrast in coaching. On third and long Stoops sent the house and had his DL shifting to confuse blockers. Stoops says "I'm comming and you've gotta block me and then make a play on my guys to get this first down". On the 3rd and very long No D' Ofrio goes with 3 DL, even when DL is our weakness. We end up not getting any pressure so the QB has all day to hit something underneath our safeties who are 20 yards deep or not being able to contain the QB if he decides to run.

This is still unacceptable coaching at the University of Miami. No D' Ofrio must go.



And if we had sent the house on 3rd and 16 and gave it up, you'd complain about that, too.

We're severely limited on defense right now.

There you go making excuses again.

We must be the only team in division one where a 3rd and very long is an automatic first down no matter what defense we play. LMAO.

The fact is that we don't attack and they manage to convert 3rd and very long.

Regardless its on the D coordinator to get us off of the field in those situations and you can't possibly be suggesting that we don't have enough talent to get off of the field on 3rd and the house when every other team in college football seems to be able to do so.



You act like we're the first defense to ever give up a 3rd and 16.

If we jailbreak and they hit a 40 yard fade, are you okay with the play call?

Yes. If we jailbreak and get a sack or int would you be happy with the call?

It's easy to play the what if scenario when the alternative has never taken place.

So what has been the results on 3rd and very long throughout his tenure? The actual on field results haven't been good.

LMAO. So you are saying this is the best we can do? We have to sit in a soft zone and give up 3rd and 15 so as to prevent some sort of 40 yard gain you are assuming will happen if we even attempt to get more aggressive.

Oh and to your first comment, no we aren't the only team to give up a 3rd and 15. But we appear to be the only team that gives that up consistently. That last part is the key. Percentages say we should already be at an advantage in those situations yet we aren't producing stops. That falls on the coach. Period.
 
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