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Brenden Sorsby- The Gambling Addiction

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caneingville said:
This is the real problem. Gambling IS widely accepted now, despite very alarming trends.

This isn't going to stop with Sorsby.
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This is 💯
I bet 1/3 of the players in EVERY TEAM have an account or use a friends to place bets
Let’s not kid ourselves

Gambling w young men is a problem that isn’t going away when all you see watching ANY sporting event is advertisements for gambling!!!
 
YLCANE said:
This is 💯
I bet 1/3 of the players in EVERY TEAM have an account or use a friends to place bets
Let’s not kid ourselves

Gambling w young men is a problem that isn’t going away when all you see watching ANY sporting event is advertisements for gambling!!!
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Especially not when the companies are using the same marketing / PR techniques that the tobacco companies used to use to get them hooked young.
 
caneingville said:
This is the real problem. Gambling IS widely accepted now, despite very alarming trends.

This isn't going to stop with Sorsby.
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That’s why you make an example out of his ***. Just like Pete Rose. You have one rule , don’t bet on this ****. Credibility is already at an all time low with sports and tbh these leagues greed caused it. Sports is heading towards wwe.
 
We don’t have to ask whether or not the NFL will allow him to play. We already have the real life precedents.

Calvin Ridley was suspended for a year, and has been smooth sailing since he returned. Hunter Dekkers was banned by the NCAA and yet as an UDFA was invited to the Saints training camp then moved to the active roster on the last game of the season just in case they wanted to sign him to a futures contract. He was on the practice squad the whole year. No extra punishment from the NFL.

Eyioma Uwazurkie was suspended for a year and is still playing in the NFL; he faced felony charges while Dekkers and others only faced misdemeanors. Dekkers and Uwazurkie bet on games at Iowa State; Uwazurkie was already in the NFL when he got caught.

You might have missed this one on the daily NFL transactions wire this week, but the New Orleans Saints quietly made a move at quarterback. Backup QB Hunter Dekkers was activated from the practice squad injury list on Wednesday, which will allow him to sign a reserve/future deal to compete at training camp next summer. Dekkers spent most of the season sidelined with a shoulder injury after being waived and re-signed 10 times from May to September.
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Tony4Canes said:
While in college and he should be punished
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His entire playing career is compromised from that point on. He can and should never see the field again.

And no team will touch him. Every mistake, every wrong read, every potential game-winning mistake will come down to that. And absolutely no team wants to deal with that.
 
cookies said:
We don’t have to ask whether or not the NFL will allow him to play. We already have the real life precedents.

Calvin Ridley was suspended for a year, and has been smooth sailing since he returned. Hunter Dekkers was banned by the NCAA and yet as an UDFA was invited to the Saints training camp then moved to the active roster on the last game of the season just in case they wanted to sign him to a futures contract. He was on the practice squad the whole year. No extra punishment from the NFL.

Eyioma Uwazurkie was suspended for a year and is still playing in the NFL; he faced felony charges while Dekkers and others only faced misdemeanors. Dekkers and Uwazurkie bet on games at Iowa State; Uwazurkie was already in the NFL when he got caught.
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Calvin Ridley is not a good comparison. He was away from the team and not a part of said team. He also betted far less and during a much shorter time.

All of these players were occasional gamblers who were stupid and got caught immediately. Sorsby is a gambling addict who has been gambling since he stepped foot on a college campus and is now suing for eligibility. Gigantic difference.
 
Bender said:
Calvin Ridley is not a good comparison. He was away from the team and not a part of said team. He also betted far less and during a much shorter time.

All of these players were occasional gamblers who were stupid and got caught immediately. Sorsby is a gambling addict who has been gambling since he stepped foot on a college campus and is now suing for eligibility. Gigantic difference.
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Brother read the post I wrote. .. . .. I said nothing about his COLLEGIATE eligibility. I am talking about the National Football League. . .. .. . . I even used an example of a player who was literally banned from the NCAA as a model for Sorsby.

NFL players are allowed to bet on other sports. Ridley is a great comparison because Sorbsy didn’t play in the game he betted on either. Ridley put up way more money than BS when it came to the bet that got him trouble.

Sorbsy was a microbetting addict but only a small percentage of bets on NCAAF games or games involving the program he was involved in. IIRC none at Cincinatti and only during his redshirt year at IU.

There have been players suspended for gambling in the NCAA who have played FWIW; but i didn’t use them as comparisons because those examples didn’t bet on the sport they were participating in although they bet on other programs at their university.
 
cookies said:
Brother read the post I wrote. .. . .. I said nothing about his COLLEGIATE eligibility. I am talking about the National Football League. . .. .. . . I even used an example of a player who was literally banned from the NCAA as a model for Sorsby.

NFL players are allowed to bet on other sports. Ridley is a great comparison because Sorbsy didn’t play in the game he betted on either. Ridley put up way more money than BS when it came to the bet that got him trouble.

Sorbsy was a microbetting addict but only a small percentage of bets on NCAAF games or games involving the program he was involved in. IIRC none at Cincinatti and only during his redshirt year at IU.

There have been players suspended for gambling in the NCAA who have played FWIW; but i didn’t use them as comparisons because those examples didn’t bet on the sport they were participating in although they bet on other programs at their university.
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He's a camp body who is not playing. Yeah, if that's the outcome for Sorsby, he was a great example.

Ridley didn't bet on other sports, he bet on NFL games. He also was away from the team when he placed the bet, whilst Sorsby was traveling with them and on the sidelines. Sorsby has been betting since high school and has placed over 1.000 bets on ******* everything, including games he was a part of. It's like Stefon Diggs with fat *** women, if she got one, she's getting it. And congrats on Sorsby not betting on his team anymore, is that an accomplishment?

Players who bet on their own games should be exempt from playing, period. None of the players listed betted over that long time stretch, on that many different sports, in that many instances, including his own team. Sorsby is a 1for1 in that regard and uncomparable to the aforementioned other guys.
 
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Bender said:
He's a camp body who is not playing. Yeah, if that's the outcome for Sorsby, he was a great example.

Ridley didn't bet on other sports, he bet on NFL games. He also was away from the team when he placed the bet, whilst Sorsby was traveling with them and on the sidelines. Sorsby has been betting since high school and has placed over 1.000 bets on ******* everything, including games he was a part of. It's like Stefon Diggs with fat *** women, if she got one, she's getting it. And congrats on Sorsby not betting on his team anymore, is that an accomplishment?

Players who bet on their own games should be exempt from playing, period. None of the players listed betted over that long time stretch, on that many different sports, in that many instances, including his own team. Sorsby is a 1for1 in that regard and uncomparable to the aforementioned other guys.
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That is irrelevant ……… if the NFL was going to take enforcement based on collegiate / NCAA punishments they would’ve done as such despite him being a camp body. Same goes for Iowa DT Noah Shannon who was a training camp invite for the Raiders.

Plenty of players dismissed from colleges or who have broken NCAA rules have had no punishment when they’ve gotten to the NFL.

Dekkers’ teammate, Eyioma, bet on college and NFL games and was suspended for a year then reinstated.

Broncos second-year defensive lineman Eyioma Uwazurike was suspended indefinitely by the NFL on Tuesday for violating the league’s gambling policy, the league said in a statement.

The NFL said Uwazurike, a fourth-round pick in the 2022 draft, bet on NFL games during his rookie season.
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According to the criminal complaint, which was obtained by The Athletic, the defensive end made a total of 32 bets on the Broncos over a period of five games in 2022, including one game that he actually played in. Uwazurike was part of the gambling probe because the former Iowa State star is also accused of making two bets on the Cyclones during his time at the school.
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Uwazurike has already played two seasons since his suspension and Sorsby bet on less of his own games and played in none of them.

According to the complaint, Uwazurike made a total of 801 bets worth roughly $21,000 from his FanDuel account
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Ridley and Sorsby both bet on their own games while not playing in them but somehow because Sorsby is a gambling addict he should never be allowed to play in the NFL……huh? There are dozens of players in the NFL who gamble on other sports as often as Sorsby; none of which have checked in rehab.

The NCAA has allowed players who bet on non-self-participating sports, even if they were apart of the same university, to play after suspensions as well: DeShawn Hanika for example; who will be at the Colts rookie minicamp.

Kimberly Hanika never expressed concern about her son’s wagering, because he placed less than 300 bets in about nine months, which averages out to about one bet per day. According to an affidavit, the total amount Hanika wagered over that period was about $1,262, with an average bet of less than $5.
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Your opinion is your opinion. Don’t care to argue over our differences there. Sorsby isn’t going to be banned from playing professional football. That’s just a fact.
 
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I just focus on how quickly these threads blow up when people feel strongly. I try to stick to facts and avoid adding fuel unless something is confirmed.
 
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