Bowl games need to offer NIL money

[NC_Canes_11]

We had this discussion a couple weeks ago. Maybe it’s feasible maybe it’s not. Idk how much the bowls make or how much sponsors would be willing to chip in to pay the kids. So make it insurance policies. Get your draft grade, and get insured up to that amount. Unfortunately there are no other options.

Eliminating bowl games won’t make a difference. Outside of the playoff and maybe NY6, no bowl game matters anymore than the next. Kids aren’t gonna be more willing to play in the Outback bowl than the Quicklane.

 

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[cane1963]

15 Bowl Games only
Each a part of the college playoff
16 playoff teams
game 1 - 8 games, 16 teams
game 2 - 4 games, 8 teams
game 3 - 2 games 4 teams
Championship Game - 1 game, 2 teams

The playoffs encompass the whole bowl season and would be much more meaningful than a myriad of games that mean nothing.

As to paying players.....rules regarding fixed payouts for each week of the playoff. The incentive for the players is to win as many games possible to get max payouts.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Are they losing money? I haven't seen any articles saying as much and I'm also not saying they don't exist. I'm just curious as I've said seen someone type this before.

No, but most schools that play in these lower tier bowls in places like ******* Sweat, New Mexico lose money. Your school has to buy a certain allotment of tickets to participate in these bowl games, if not, your school has to buy all of the tickets that they didn't sell, that's a loss.

 

[GenericYesMan]

No, but most schools that play in these lower tier bowls in places like ******* Sweat, New Mexico lose money. Your school has to buy a certain allotment of tickets to participate in these bowl games, if not, your school has to buy all of the tickets that they didn't sell, that's a loss.

It’s the opportunity cost between the marketing your school can gain playing in the bowl game vs. the actual cost to the university

The Sun Bowl brings zero to Miami and the U brand. El Paso is not a market they even attempt to recruit in either. Total loss for the school.

If we were in Atlanta, Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa or even Charlotte it would be a different story.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

It’s the opportunity cost between the marketing your school can gain playing in the bowl game vs. the actual cost to the university

The Sun Bowl brings zero to Miami and the U brand. El Paso is not a market they even attempt to recruit in either. Total loss for the school.

If we were in Atlanta, Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa or even Charlotte it would be a different story.

This is another reason I say bowl tie ins should rotate every year. For one ACC bowls suck, and two, teams shouldn’t be going to the same bowls every year. There would be a decent amount of money to be made playing in Jacksonville, or Atlanta, or Nashville, instead of Shreveport and El Paso.

Make it more fun for the kids to go different places and for national brands to be able to play games close to fans that aren’t in the schools area, and reach markets, recruits they normally couldn’t.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

College football was great for how long before nil?

Kids should have to pay their tuition now that they are getting payed.

Im glad yall are celebrating the demise of college football.

 

[GenericYesMan]

This is another reason I say bowl tie ins should rotate every year. For one ACC bowls suck, and two, teams shouldn’t be going to the same bowls every year. There would be a decent amount of money to be made playing in Jacksonville, or Atlanta, or Nashville, instead of Shreveport and El Paso.

Make it more fun for the kids to go different places and for national brands to be able to play games close to fans that aren’t in the schools area, and reach markets, recruits they normally couldn’t.

Pairing bowl games in NFL cities would probably make the most sense, trying to shoehorn a bad ACC school outside of the ACC bubble would be a tough sell for random cities and stadiums I’d imagine

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

College football was great for how long before nil?

Kids should have to pay their tuition now that they are getting payed.

Im glad yall are celebrating the demise of college football.

LOL, you sound like a socialist.

What do you have against athletes/people reclaiming their name, image, & likeness, and profiting from it?

In no other walk of life was the old way acceptable except CFB, YOU wouldn't even sign a piece of paper asking you to renounce those rights, but you expect College athletes to, hilarious.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

LOL, you sound like a socialist.

What do you have against athletes/people reclaiming their name, image, & likeness, and profiting from it?

In no other walk of life was the old way acceptable except CFB, YOU wouldn't even sign a piece of paper asking you to renounce those rights, but you expect College athletes to, hilarious.

I said they should pay for college since they are being paid.

Not sure you understand what socialism means.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Pairing bowl games in NFL cities would probably make the most sense, trying to shoehorn a bad ACC school outside of the ACC bubble would be a tough sell for random cities and stadiums I’d imagine

Look no further than our crowds in Shreveport and El Paso for your answer. Nobody is traveling 10+ hours to those places, over the holidays, for a bowl game.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

I said they should pay for college since they are being paid.
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Not sure you understand what socialism means.

I agree with you if the College athlete's making 100's of 1,000's or even millions, but deals like that $500 a month Lambert is giving our student-athletes is pocket change, that $500 wouldn't even cover a month of tuition at UM. But that $500 is good money for a College student who doesn't come from money, I used to be happy if I had $5 in my pocket when I was in College LOL.

 

[kryptonite]

Because the pay out was always a free education. What you see as no pay others see as a free 100k+ educational opportunity.

The problem is the pay is the same as when the ncaa brought in $50 million a year. Last I heard, it was approaching a billion a year, and the pay is still a free education.

 

[WanderFranco]

Call it the Covid bump. Nobody’s going anywhere, we’re all in front of our tv’s.

Nah, bowls get good ratings every year. And no one is stuck at home for COVID anymore.

 

[Canenable]

Putting aside Covid for a moment, it is obvious to all that bowl games have lost their luster. I would argue that the 2 factors most responsible for this are 1) the playoffs which are really what most impartial viewers watch and 2) NFL prospects for which kids don’t want to get hurt. So I was considering what incentive bowls could create for players, and the answer is so obvious.

Pay kids for the NIL if the play in the bowl game. You will still have some kids opt who expect to be 1st round picks, but the vast majority will play for some reasonable scratch. So instead of gift bags of stuff most players already have, pay them $$$.

Now that makes all the sense in the world... which means it has a 50% chance of happening.

 

[Dghustla]

Sorry, I don't need to see players who are only there for the money. The prima Donna's and draft pussies who drop their team rather than play for it can kick rocks.

This new school mentality is souring me big time on the collegiate game. 99 percent of the college football players are there free of charge and hopefully realize what a gift it is to get a degree and go pro in something other than the sport that gave them this opportunity. This bowl game is their last dance in the sport and a chance to show out one last time for friends teammates, family, and the school that gave them an opportunity.

that last line is the kicker….for most of these P5 kids the school they went didn’t give them the opportunity.

They most likely had committable offers from at least 4+ schools.

The kids give the school the opportunity to make a ton of cash from their services.

The majority of Bowl games have been meaningless for over 2 decades.

A relic from a prehistoric system.

That holds some sentimental value for “old school mentality” fans.

When in reality they are pointless and trust me, your friends and family and all those ppl you want to “show out for” will have more fun at your draft party when you become a millionaire than they will sitting in the empty stands in El Paso Texas or Watching your 12:00pm bowl kickoff from their iPhone at work.

 

[Dghustla]

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[Miami[]_[]Smoke]

Putting aside Covid for a moment, it is obvious to all that bowl games have lost their luster. I would argue that the 2 factors most responsible for this are 1) the playoffs which are really what most impartial viewers watch and 2) NFL prospects for which kids don’t want to get hurt. So I was considering what incentive bowls could create for players, and the answer is so obvious.

Pay kids for the NIL if the play in the bowl game. You will still have some kids opt who expect to be 1st round picks, but the vast majority will play for some reasonable scratch. So instead of gift bags of stuff most players already have, pay them $$$.

This doesn’t fix anything… players that are opting out aren’t going to care about a little nil money. They are worried about pro contracts

 

[SayWhat]

that last line is the kicker….for most of these P5 kids the school they went didn’t give them the opportunity.

They most likely had committable offers from at least 4+ schools.

The kids give the school the opportunity to make a ton of cash from their services.

The majority of Bowl games have been meaningless for over 2 decades.

A relic from a prehistoric system.

That holds some sentimental value for “old school mentality” fans.

When in reality they are pointless and trust me, your friends and family and all those ppl you want to “show out for” will have more fun at your draft party when you become a millionaire than they will sitting in the empty stands in El Paso Texas or Watching your 12:00pm bowl kickoff from their iPhone at work.

How many get drafted from a team yearly? That game means something, just like senior night does.

You invalidated your entire argument with the draft party logic. You can do both if you're fortunate enough to be drafted.

The school also gives them a degree to make money for an entire lifetime along with traveling to places they likely would've never visited with a ton of memories associated with it all.

Players tend to go to their best offer. So it doesn't matter how many offers they have.

You're also forgetting the fun factor of it all. That this is the last game for most. They're hanging them up after the game. That's most and if you've ever played college ball you know that feeling. Same kind of thing with high school, but college it's just a bit different.

Show me the undrafted player that sat out. That last game isn't meaningless as you and others suggest. Saying it is, that's the stuff asinine fans suggest.

 

[The Svengali]

Putting aside Covid for a moment, it is obvious to all that bowl games have lost their luster. I would argue that the 2 factors most responsible for this are 1) the playoffs which are really what most impartial viewers watch and 2) NFL prospects for which kids don’t want to get hurt. So I was considering what incentive bowls could create for players, and the answer is so obvious.

Pay kids for the NIL if the play in the bowl game. You will still have some kids opt who expect to be 1st round picks, but the vast majority will play for some reasonable scratch. So instead of gift bags of stuff most players already have, pay them $$$.

Best idea I’ve heard in a long time