Boise State OC Dirk Koetter, who is leaving, has posted this on his facebook account

[Vintage Cane]

Coaches can’t complain when they are the ones that started using the portal to improve their roster by “forcing” kids to transfer, now when kids transfer to improve their situation they complain about the system.

 

[3rd-43]

Almost? That’s some revisionist history right there. He hired Patrick Nix and was never getting Koetter.

Oof the “almost” was for effect. Look at us both giving an opinion. To think I was glazing Shannon lol

 

[JD08]

People wanted college football to be NFL minor league. They said players should get paid and be able to transfer without issue. People even said they were only going to college to play so why attend classes. If you said they were student athletes getting a free education along with room and board, you were just exploiting these players.

Be careful what you ask for.

 

[Ironmanfootball]

He didn't complain about Nelson transferring to BSU until he realized Nelson sucked.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

It's a joke, and a slap in the face to coaches at places like Boise State.

To succeed with lower ranked players requires a lot more detailed evaluations combined with great development.
That used to be the way teams like Boise would make decent runs.

Do that now, and richer schools are coming to take your players. The players that YOU evaluated and developed.

Duke played a bowl game without their starting QB tonight. He's heading to Oregon State.
Duke's QB from last year just won the Sugar Bowl for Notre Dame.
That's TWO high level QB's that Duke recruited/developed... QB's that could've changed the trajectory of their program. Gone.

**** is fvcked up.

I wonder if we’ll ever see a situation where a smaller school (school b) becomes a development/farm team for a bigger powerhouse team (team a)..that way if school a identifies a recruit who wants to be @ Miami but feels like they might not be an immediate take/could benefit from game development they can convince them commit to school b with some nice NIL and transfer into school a after getting some real in game development instead of riding the pine @ school a for 1/2 years. Would benefit school b because they would be fielding teams with players they typically wouldn’t be able to recruit on their own n ultimately have a better product which = more money..what’s stopping Miami & say FIU from doing this ?

 

[KANE]

He’s not wrong. College football is being ruined. It’s not really that fun to follow anymore. It’s just a race to pay for the best players. Even the NFL has a salary cap to equalize paying players. College football is completely out of control and I am afraid it’s beyond repair.

I get what you’re saying, but It’s basically always been that way. The difference is then, only the schools on the top rung of the ladder got to fight for the best players. U think sll those kids went to Bama, and Ohio State, cause the love the uniforms? **** nawl. Now more teams get a shot, (if they got a few dollars, lol) and can get a seat at the table. Do they need some rules to govern this new era? Yes. Maybe a salary cap. But guess what? Teams that are good at cheating will find a way to cheat. Teams like us, because of where we are located, we don’t always have to get the highest rated talent, because we may not be able to afford to throw the big money at every 5 star kid, we just have to get the right kids. That's where you need to have good evaluators. There are always good talent down here that flies under the radar. Get some big names, and a few under the radar, and we good. Be judicious with the big bags, lol.

 

[88]

Can someone explain to me like a toddler why professional sports leagues can have a draft but college sports can’t legally postpone eligibility after a transfer anymore?

 

[PIPO]

SMH at the hypocrisy of these coaches. Coaches jump ship for bigger programs and bigger paydays and nobody bats an eye, but when a player does it they’re the first to complain. I’m sure that when Koetter left Boise for the Arizona Stare HC gig money had nothing to do with it…

How many coaches move around per year? Let’s say it’s 200.

Coaches get fired, etc.

There are over 2,000 kids in the portal. It doesn’t compare.

I am for kids wanting to move on from a situation.

My first solution is 1 free immediate transfer and any transfer after that, sit out 1 year.

 

[passitback]

I wonder if we’ll ever see a situation where a smaller school (school b) becomes a development/farm team for a bigger powerhouse team (team a)..that way if school a identifies a recruit who wants to be @ Miami but feels like they might not be an immediate take/could benefit from game development they can convince them commit to school b with some nice NIL and transfer into school a after getting some real in game development instead of riding the pine @ school a for 1/2 years. Would benefit school b because they would be fielding teams with players they typically wouldn’t be able to recruit on their own n ultimately have a better product which = more money..what’s stopping Miami & say FIU from doing this ?

Wild thought.

Currently, P4 conferences (via their affiliated schools) have morphed into a farm system for the NFL. These universities are merely transitional spaces for semi-pro athletes to develop their skillsets for a shot at the big league (NFL).

Pushing your narrative a little, you're basically suggesting another minor league system.

P4 is football's equivalent to "Triple A" - the minor leagues.

Under your model, non P4 conferences, will just be an extension of "the farm system," akin to "Double A" - again, the minor leagues

I think we are already there. It's just not formalized.

The NCAA wants the masses to think they are pumping out a fair product, but the system is rigged. The more they rely on the benevolence of alumni and die hards to fund NILs, the more investors are going to expect (and demand) an ROI. The likelihood of satisfying the masses with this idiotic model is somewhere between slimmest and none.

People can point to the ratings all they want. The current model does not seem like it is very viable for the long term. Far too many factors are influencing my stance.

In time, NCAA football and basketball will be done. I just don't see how this is going to work out in the long run.

 

[Ironmanfootball]

How many coaches move around per year? Let’s say it’s 200.

Coaches get fired, etc.

There are over 2,000 kids in the portal. It doesn’t compare.

I am for kids wanting to move on from a situation.

My first solution is 1 free immediate transfer and any transfer after that, sit out 1 year.

If the staff is fired that's ~15 people per school, easily. Counting S&C, analysts, QC, GA's etc could be ~30/team. How many teams have a new HC next year? ~30.

So that's 900 just from HC firings. Now once they shuffle, people move FCS-FBS etc and Mario has chewed through Guidry, Gattis, Steele, etc

 

[PIPO]

If the staff is fired that's ~15 people per school, easily. Counting S&C, analysts, QC, GA's etc could be ~30/team. How many teams have a new HC next year? ~30.

So that's 900 just from HC firings. Now once they shuffle, people move FCS-FBS etc and Mario has chewed through Guidry, Gattis, Steele, etc

Is there really 30 new HC per year?

I may be low on my number of 200 but again, over 2,000 players entered the portal.

The coaches are the adults and if they suck at their job, they get fired and yes, still get their money.

If kids suck, they still collect their NIL as well.

I guess agree to disagree but do you think college football is better now than it used to be, say, even 5 years ago?

Also, **** the NCAA - that needed an entire overhaul but that is separate from what is happening now.

 

[Ironmanfootball]

Is there really 30 new HC per year?

I may be low on my number of 200 but again, over 2,000 players entered the portal.

The coaches are the adults and if they suck at their job, they get fired and yes, still get their money.

If kids suck, they still collect their NIL as well.

I guess agree to disagree but do you think college football is better now than it used to be, say, even 5 years ago?

Also, **** the NCAA - that needed an entire overhaul but that is separate from what is happening now.

I think we're at 27 FBS firings this year? And you know some weird stuff will still go down once this playoff is over. NFL season hasn't had Black Monday yet either.

 

[skeeter]

I agree with him…I mean I still root for Um and the ups and downs every season.

But this **** is a joke.

 

[bacane]

He’s a good man and very good OC. He speaks the truth.

 

[3FW]

The dude is so old, he mails checks.

 

[StPeteCane]

"The game is the game." - Brother Mouzone

 

[ScubaCane]

You're naive if you think the current model of CFB is sustainable. I agree with allowing one free transfer and then you have to sit out a year if you decide to transfer again.

 

[RozayCane]

 

[Ispyin]

Listen on the one hand, I get what he is saying, but on the other hand, please let me know when Boise State was recruiting at an elite level before all of this?

He’s makes it seem like the money has changed how they have been able to recruit when it seems to me it’s just business as usual

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Wild thought.

Currently, P4 conferences (via their affiliated schools) have morphed into a farm system for the NFL. These universities are merely transitional spaces for semi-pro athletes to develop their skillsets for a shot at the big league (NFL).

Pushing your narrative a little, you're basically suggesting another minor league system.

P4 is football's equivalent to "Triple A" - the minor leagues.

Under your model, non P4 conferences, will just be an extension of "the farm system," akin to "Double A" - again, the minor leagues

I think we are already there. It's just not formalized.

The NCAA wants the masses to think they are pumping out a fair product, but the system is rigged. The more they rely on the benevolence of alumni and die hards to fund NILs, the more investors are going to expect (and demand) an ROI. The likelihood of satisfying the masses with this idiotic model is somewhere between slimmest and none.

People can point to the ratings all they want. The current model does not seem like it is very viable for the long term. Far too many factors are influencing my stance.

In time, NCAA football and basketball will be done. I just don't see how this is going to work out in the long run.

Yep in my scenario Miami would be triple A and FIU would be the Double A affiliate, I actually think it would reign in the Wild Wild west nature of the portal a bit where kids just jump blindly expecting to land somewhere to get playing time only to get stuck in the void.