Bat Signal UP!!! Purdue DT Branson Deen Transfers to Miami

[Lance Roffers]

Where do you get your stats from?

Various sources, sometimes I scrub them myself, sometimes I use an API to connect to data, sometimes it is easier to get through a PFF or SIS.

But I also watch every play and write about them. Used to do that here.

 

[Lance Roffers]

And to be clear, I love physical, old school, doubles eating NT’s. They’ve gone away with the popular spread offense, but if you’ve got one, you can really eat up the inside run in college. That changes the way you can play the pass.

But if they’re only playing 15% of your snaps, it’s a more valuable player who can play on passing downs.

We look at a P5 player who produced in a better conference and poo-poo because he’s a 3/5T and lose sight of how often that means you can pair him with your other rushers and get real value.

Adding a 1T who can demand a double is a need for this defense, no doubt. But I can separate that fact and recognize adding a player this good to go with Gore makes us better at DT this year than last year.

 

[Lance Roffers]

Final point: I wrote an article prior to this season and noted the influence that Alabama had on Coach Cristobal and listed out the number of players that Alabama had on their DL who were between 270-290 and it was double digits.

Then you look at his Oregon teams and he was recreating that on their DL.

He comes to Miami and adds a bunch of transfers on the DL.

Mesidor
Moultrie
Aguade
Jackson
Lichtenstein

All fitting in that same mold, Jackson a bit heavier, but also 6-6, so he was a player who resembled most 290 types of normal height.

They want players who can play 1, 3, 5 along their front. They don’t really want the player who lines up solely in a 7 or 9 and rushes wide. It’s not the style they want.

Look at their DL recruits this year. Wayne, Bain, Horton, Acheampong all in that same mold.

This is their type.

 

[Hurricane Warning]

During his Miami visit last week he sat down with Jason Taylor and Rod Wright, and the pair went through Deen’s game film and critiqued it.

They didn’t tell Deen how great he was.

They didn’t try to sell Deen on his opportunity to start if he picked Miami.

The duo showed Deen how he could vastly improve his game with the tutelage of the Miami coaching staff.

“After we sat down and talked about the film with those guys, I knew,” Deen said. “I knew I was going there.”
Deen says in that meeting that “Watching my film, they critiqued how I could get better in their system. Jason Taylor was a great player in his own right, he took my film, told me how I drifted on my pass rush, talked about my inefficiencies in my pass rush, how he could make it more efficient, a more improved rush. Coach (Rod) Wright did the same thing in the run game. They really impressed me with their knowledge.”

Ohhh yes. This is the type of guy we want.

 

[bobbydigius]

Final point: I wrote an article prior to this season and noted the influence that Alabama had on Coach Cristobal and listed out the number of players that Alabama had on their DL who were between 270-290 and it was double digits.

Then you look at his Oregon teams and he was recreating that on their DL.

He comes to Miami and adds a bunch of transfers on the DL.

Mesidor
Moultrie
Aguade
Jackson
Lichtenstein

All fitting in that same mold, Jackson a bit heavier, but also 6-6, so he was a player who resembled most 290 types of normal height.

They want players who can play 1, 3, 5 along their front. They don’t really want the player who lines up solely in a 7 or 9 and rushes wide. It’s not the style they want.

Look at their DL recruits this year. Wayne, Bain, Horton, Acheampong all in that same mold.

This is their type.

To be fair Bama did run a 3-4 and their DEs were always bigger. Just pointing that out. I agree that this kid is a good pickup for us. Experience and age. People forget DT is a grown man postion. Having a 23 year old there helps a ton, and it’s why you can’t just rely on a kid like Horton to start. It takes a minute to get strong enough for P5 ball unless you are a phenom.

 

[canes732]

He was one of the best interior guys in the country last year. 6’2 280-285 is not tiny lol. People think dt’s have to be 320 here , that’s not the case. This guy held up just fine and caused a lot of havoc in the B10. Which is a far more physical brand of football in that conference.

No use arguing with people that don’t know football not every DT is huge just gotta be stout

 

[grover]

Final point: I wrote an article prior to this season and noted the influence that Alabama had on Coach Cristobal and listed out the number of players that Alabama had on their DL who were between 270-290 and it was double digits.

Then you look at his Oregon teams and he was recreating that on their DL.

He comes to Miami and adds a bunch of transfers on the DL.

Mesidor
Moultrie
Aguade
Jackson
Lichtenstein

All fitting in that same mold, Jackson a bit heavier, but also 6-6, so he was a player who resembled most 290 types of normal height.

They want players who can play 1, 3, 5 along their front. They don’t really want the player who lines up solely in a 7 or 9 and rushes wide. It’s not the style they want.

Look at their DL recruits this year. Wayne, Bain, Horton, Acheampong all in that same mold.

This is their type.

Nice post. Question: do you think the 20% goes to 25% or 33% of snaps with an NG of Steele had a high performance NG to work with? Neither Miller nor Jackson were disruptive enough there to make the scheme pay off.

 

[Squid Bumciorek]

I can post the article for the 300th time about Arandas very successful 3-4 defense with a 290 lb NT at LSU . You don't need a 330 lb war daddy to have an effective D. If Cristobal does switch from Steele to Strong, I wouldn't be surprised if he also moves to 3-4. LSU players said that Steeles 4-3 was very complex and basically a NFL defense. Aranda's 3-4 was much simpler and their players, despite most of them being recruited for a 4-3, excelled in it.

 

[canemachine]

No use arguing with people that don’t know football not every DT is huge just gotta be stout

Be careful this makes too much sense

 

[252cane]

I can post the article for the 300th time about Arandas very successful 3-4 defense with a 290 lb NT at LSU . You don't need a 330 lb war daddy to have an effective D. If Cristobal does switch from Steele to Strong, I wouldn't be surprised if he also moves to 3-4. LSU players said that Steeles 4-3 was very complex and basically a NFL defense. Aranda's 3-4 was much simpler and their players, despite most of them being recruited for a 4-3, excelled in it.

Uga NT is 6’5 295

 

[E1k]

Jackson played 414 snaps, 205 run snaps, 208 pass rush snaps. Jackson was a 3/4 T on 81% of his snaps last year. He was a 1 T on 18% of his snaps last year.

• 16 pressures for 7.7%
• 18 run stops for 8.8%

Deen played 492 snaps, 205 run snaps, 287 pass rush snaps. Deen was a 3/4 T on 75% of his snaps last year. He was a 1T on just 3% and was a 5T on 21% of his snaps.

• 34 pressures for 11.8%
• 16 run stops for 7.8%

The biggest difference between them is that Deen would kick out to 5T more often, while Jackson would kick inside more often. Jackson has more upside than Deen based on frame and age, but at the moment, it's pretty clear Deen is the better player. If you're into PFF grades, he also graded out higher than Jackson and was the second highest graded Purdue defender.

Thanks for the info, wish we can have both lol

 

[Hurricane Warning]

You go to the portal for proof of production. You recruit HS for size/upside. After falling short for multiple years in HS DT recruiting, we have to sacrifice a bit of upside for a proven dude at a position of need.

 

[E1k]

Final point: I wrote an article prior to this season and noted the influence that Alabama had on Coach Cristobal and listed out the number of players that Alabama had on their DL who were between 270-290 and it was double digits.

Then you look at his Oregon teams and he was recreating that on their DL.

He comes to Miami and adds a bunch of transfers on the DL.

Mesidor
Moultrie
Aguade
Jackson
Lichtenstein

All fitting in that same mold, Jackson a bit heavier, but also 6-6, so he was a player who resembled most 290 types of normal height.

They want players who can play 1, 3, 5 along their front. They don’t really want the player who lines up solely in a 7 or 9 and rushes wide. It’s not the style they want.

Look at their DL recruits this year. Wayne, Bain, Horton, Acheampong all in that same mold.

This is their type.

I hope we get someone from the saban tree but is more advanced than steele. Want more creepers, sim pressures, different fronts etc.. Hopefully we can double back to Schumann lol

 

[Rocksolid027]

Welcome to the U and the Miami Hurricanes family Branson Deen, Let's Go CANES !!

 

[Zanecane]

The more I watch this guy and better understand out needs the bigger this pick up becomes. I love the way this guy plays. He graded out extremely well and produced on a team that did well this year

 

[gacaneaddict]

I can post the article for the 300th time about Arandas very successful 3-4 defense with a 290 lb NT at LSU . You don't need a 330 lb war daddy to have an effective D. If Cristobal does switch from Steele to Strong, I wouldn't be surprised if he also moves to 3-4. LSU players said that Steeles 4-3 was very complex and basically a NFL defense. Aranda's 3-4 was much simpler and their players, despite most of them being recruited for a 4-3, excelled in it.

My brother in law played for Steele at Clemson, and I saw the defensive playbook. It looked like a New York City phonebook.

He told me that it was very difficult, but players were better prepared for NFL after playing for Steele, but they had coverage busts, etc...

He told me Steele is a brilliant mind, and is like a NFL DC. I also think Steele simplified his defense some after Alabama stint, as his defenses seemed sound and played fast at Auburn where he had good results. I would think year 2 our players would play faster, and have less busts.

 

[CaneDog66]

Coughing up the green **** feeling way better but clogged asf

Better to hack it up than it remain in your lungs! That sounds like progress mate, great to hear, keep it going

 

[KANE]

My brother in law played for Steele at Clemson, and I saw the defensive playbook. It looked like a New York City phonebook.

He told me that it was very difficult, but players were better prepared for NFL after playing for Steele, but they had coverage busts, etc...

He told me Steele is a brilliant mind, and is like a NFL DC. I also think Steele simplified his defense some after Alabama stint, as his defenses seemed sound and played fast at Auburn where he had good results. I would think year 2 our players would play faster, and have less busts.

This. Also having talent upgrades on this Defense won't hurt matters, either. Looking forward to it. Now if we can just get something done on the other side of the ball.............

 

[305407cane]

Where y'all think Flagg would be on this Georgia depth chart

You mean Georgia state?

 

[Lance Roffers]

Nice post. Question: do you think the 20% goes to 25% or 33% of snaps with an NG of Steele had a high performance NG to work with? Neither Miller nor Jackson were disruptive enough there to make the scheme pay off.

It is a guess on my part, but I do believe he would like to be able to run some more odd fronts and Bear fronts.

Getting a bunch of players who can play the 5T also points to that direction, as to run odd you don’t just need the 0T, you also need players who can go head up on a tackle and then gap LB’ers. Miami simply doesn’t have the personnel for that.

With spread, you have to be a bit creative to run an odd front, so I think with how many they have in the ACC, you probably still see 80% even, and they just more under fronts.